Are these nutes good for my coco grow?

Snow Crash

Snow Crash

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They are a little low on calcium but if you have the right kind of tap water that could be a good thing.

Consider using a coco mix like Roots Organic, rather than just straight coco, if you'd like to go the organic route.
 
wavey.mofo

wavey.mofo

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Snow Crash said:
They are a little low on calcium but if you have the right kind of tap water that could be a good thing.

Consider using a coco mix like Roots Organic, rather than just straight coco, if you'd like to go the organic route.
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Thanks for your reply mate. I think im gonna go with PK 13/14 and CANNABOOST and Coco A & B which should hopefully should be sufficient through veg and flowering.
 
Snow Crash

Snow Crash

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You should forgo the PK 13/14 and the Boost Accelerator and instead purchase the Rhizotonic and the Cannazym.

PK 13/14 is little more than Potassium Phosphate. It is the only ingredient listed on the bottle. If you'd like a good bloom booster take a look into KoolBloom. It contains the Potassium Phosphate, as well as Magnesium Phosphate, and others. The diversity of pk sources, including necessary elements like magnesium, is a good idea.

The Boost Accelerator is okay enough stuff but I would consider it extra and not really needed. Works GREAT as a foliar spray if you wanted to get the 250ml bottle and save some money by using a hell of a lot less of the stuff. Resin production is increased, but not dramatically. I'd have to think that a combination of Bud Candy and Snow Storm would have better results for a lower price.

The Rhizotonic is worth EVERY penny. A healthy root system supports a healthy plant. The bigger your roots the more they can uptake and the larger and happier your plant will be. You want to grow big buds? Start with the roots. They are the foundation of your skyscrapers.

Canna Coco A+B runs low on Phosphorus for bloom. Boost Accelerator contains only trace amounts of elements and you'd be dropping (literally) $5 in nutrients every time. The CannaZym at 0-2-1 is specifically formulated to complete the system, and designed to be run in flowering at around 10ml per gallon or so to balance the NPK ratios and to keep the root zone healthy. This simple fact makes CannaZym more like Canna Coco C. So you have A and B, you need to get at least C to complete the system enough to use it.

So that's my input. I've used everything Canna has to offer. The Boost is too pricey, the PK 13/14 too expensive for what it is, the Rhizotonic is like gold in a bottle and worth every penny, and the Cannazym is an indispensable part of the Canna system (if you do not include a different high phosphorus supplement).
 
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Cheese2011

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Growers ark coco a n b is the shit great nutrients , Vitalink coco is great nutes aswell just use a n b n pk no need for anything else fancy
 
wavey.mofo

wavey.mofo

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Snow Crash said:
You should forgo the PK 13/14 and the Boost Accelerator and instead purchase the Rhizotonic and the Cannazym.

PK 13/14 is little more than Potassium Phosphate. It is the only ingredient listed on the bottle. If you'd like a good bloom booster take a look into KoolBloom. It contains the Potassium Phosphate, as well as Magnesium Phosphate, and others. The diversity of pk sources, including necessary elements like magnesium, is a good idea.

The Boost Accelerator is okay enough stuff but I would consider it extra and not really needed. Works GREAT as a foliar spray if you wanted to get the 250ml bottle and save some money by using a hell of a lot less of the stuff. Resin production is increased, but not dramatically. I'd have to think that a combination of Bud Candy and Snow Storm would have better results for a lower price.

The Rhizotonic is worth EVERY penny. A healthy root system supports a healthy plant. The bigger your roots the more they can uptake and the larger and happier your plant will be. You want to grow big buds? Start with the roots. They are the foundation of your skyscrapers.

Canna Coco A+B runs low on Phosphorus for bloom. Boost Accelerator contains only trace amounts of elements and you'd be dropping (literally) $5 in nutrients every time. The CannaZym at 0-2-1 is specifically formulated to complete the system, and designed to be run in flowering at around 10ml per gallon or so to balance the NPK ratios and to keep the root zone healthy. This simple fact makes CannaZym more like Canna Coco C. So you have A and B, you need to get at least C to complete the system enough to use it.

So that's my input. I've used everything Canna has to offer. The Boost is too pricey, the PK 13/14 too expensive for what it is, the Rhizotonic is like gold in a bottle and worth every penny, and the Cannazym is an indispensable part of the Canna system (if you do not include a different high phosphorus supplement).
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+rep Thanks a lot for all this information. I've tossed buying PK 13/14 and the Boost Accelerator and instead gone for Rhizotonic and the Cannazym.
So would Coco A+B, Rhizotonic and Cannazym be enough for veg and flower?
 
Snow Crash

Snow Crash

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Absolutely.

I think you have a great base system. Work through a grow with that and then you can add some PK boosters and flowering enhancers later on.

I have a fondness for Liquid Karma, but I'm just getting started into the whole "bio-activators" and kelp extracts and the plant systems they support. For a base system, A+B, Rhizo, and Zym can be manipulated to get things dialed pretty good.

If anything it might be a little short on Potassium... maybe... but you'll have to test it out on your specific strain before dedicating cash to things you may or may not need. Put like $40 away just in case you need a few bottles of something extra and you'll be golden showers.
 
wavey.mofo

wavey.mofo

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Snow Crash said:
Absolutely.

I think you have a great base system. Work through a grow with that and then you can add some PK boosters and flowering enhancers later on.

I have a fondness for Liquid Karma, but I'm just getting started into the whole "bio-activators" and kelp extracts and the plant systems they support. For a base system, A+B, Rhizo, and Zym can be manipulated to get things dialed pretty good.

If anything it might be a little short on Potassium... maybe... but you'll have to test it out on your specific strain before dedicating cash to things you may or may not need. Put like $40 away just in case you need a few bottles of something extra and you'll be golden showers.
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Will do mate and thanks once again. I doubt i'll have barely any money left over after my big spend on my grow set up and everything else i need lol Thanks for the re-assurance :)
 
Snow Crash

Snow Crash

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Hold off on the bloom boosters. You need to get those seeds started first anyway.

The Big Bud will be okay, but AN system depends more on the entirety of the thing. Big Bud, Bud Candy, Bud Factor X, Nirvana, Overdrive, and Final Phase are all required if you're really looking for that big difference... But at nearly $250 for all that crap... I don't think you'd want to invest that much into it all.

I own some Big Bud, Nirvana, and Bud Candy... but haven't put the Big Bud to use. The Nirvana didn't do shit in my last grow on its own, just stank up the reservoir and made it foamy. Bud Candy is for real, serious resin production.

I can tell you personally that I'll probably save the Big Bud for another time. I chose the powder which contains quite a bit more Potassium than Phosphorus and I'm always hesitant when adding Potassium.
 
wavey.mofo

wavey.mofo

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Snow Crash said:
Hold off on the bloom boosters. You need to get those seeds started first anyway.

The Big Bud will be okay, but AN system depends more on the entirety of the thing. Big Bud, Bud Candy, Bud Factor X, Nirvana, Overdrive, and Final Phase are all required if you're really looking for that big difference... But at nearly $250 for all that crap... I don't think you'd want to invest that much into it all.

I own some Big Bud, Nirvana, and Bud Candy... but haven't put the Big Bud to use. The Nirvana didn't do shit in my last grow on its own, just stank up the reservoir and made it foamy. Bud Candy is for real, serious resin production.

I can tell you personally that I'll probably save the Big Bud for another time. I chose the powder which contains quite a bit more Potassium than Phosphorus and I'm always hesitant when adding Potassium.
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Hmm i see, thanks for that. I dont think i'll bother buying any bloom boosters then and just stick to those other nutes. Thanks once again ;)
 
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buddaluv00

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wavey.mofo said:
Hmm i see, thanks for that. I dont think i'll bother buying any bloom boosters then and just stick to those other nutes. Thanks once again ;)
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Yeah, I dont' think you should avoid bloom boosters altogether....that would really make your grow suffer, or at least not grow as well as it could. I would really encourage you to try at least a few......always worked for me.

yah, the AN line is a bit much at first, but Big Bud is amazeballs in a grow. think about it.
 
puffenuff

puffenuff

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I'm still learning too, and I went with the entire line of canna for my coco grow. I can attest to the awesomeness of rhizotonic and cannazym as I've applied those already and seen results. I hear people subbing out the pk and boost for other (similar) products, but I feel like canna is so dialed in when it comes to mixing the nutes, they probably work best when all are used together as a complete system. Biggest complaint I hear about canna I the expensive prices. If you can afford it, id stick with all the same line and keep it simple as possible. Just my theory for new growers like myself.
 
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