what fert for guerila growing?

bang1

Member
i did my first guerilla grow last year, and it didnt turn out too well. i think the problem was that i over fertilized.

so because i cant be with the plants every week to feed them i used a miracle grow powdered fert that feeds i think for 6-8 weeks.

what i did was put a hand full at the bottom of the hole i dug put the plant in, filled with soil and then put another handfull on top, and then just left them there.

after the 6 or 8 weeks were up i returned to feed diluted tomato feed, but a couple of weeks later the plant started turning yellow and started to spread up the plant. i tried flushing it with lots of water but i just had to chop her and save the bud i had.

now i have just ordered iranian autoflower for this year and i want to get it right this time, so could the more experienced outdoor growers give me some advice on what fert to use and how often
thanks
 

pickle8

Active Member
Autoflowers are gonna have a different feeding schedule since they are autos. There's plenty of info here on how to take care of autos. For non-auto flowering types, you could use espoma. They have a line of organic ferts that you can do 1x a month. I'm in the same boat as you. i cant visit each week. Good luck.
 

Bud Farmer

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It's hard for anyone with a full-time job to keep a garden up.

I use ammonium nitrate on mine. It just takes a small amount though. I dilute it in water and pour it in about a 6in. circle around them. About a teaspoon per plant. Stuff is wicked strong so be careful not to burn them.

If you put straight powdered MG fertilizer on the plants then you may have burnt them up.
 

Xare

Well-Known Member
You got the right idea but the wrong fertilizer.

What you want is Organic Amendments mixed into the soil before you plant in the ground. Organics is time released. So when you incorporate it with the soil at the start of the season it feeds over the next couple of months slowly. It does not even need water.

That is why Organics are the best for outdoors. Instead of mixing up miracle grow with water and giving it to the plants, you mix the soil with organic plant food at the start of the grow. An Organic Premix. Then that soil will feed your plant all summer long. All you have to do is give the plant water if it looks like it needs it.
 

Gastanker

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Blood meal, bone meal, and bat guano. Don't pollute the outdoors with large amounts of chemical ferts. Bat guano is generally 50/50 fast release and slow release and high in N - great for the starts. The other two are slow release and thus can be applied early on without risk of burn and work for a while so just 1 or two applications is good. Make sure to mix the bone meal into the soil pretty well or animals will come and investigate.

Listen to Xare

My organics goes as follows:
11-1-1 bat guano
9-11-0 bone meal
0-11-2 bone meal
.5-12-.2 bat guano

I feed with the first bat guano and bone meal first. Bat guano is immediate release + slow release and bone meal is just slow release so my plants start with a little nitrogen which then ramps up before the phosphorus kicks in at the beginning of flower.

I then switch to the second bone meal and bat guano for the end of flower (I actually add this at the beginning of flower but it kicks in at the end as it is slow release).
 

sickleg

Member
It's hard for anyone with a full-time job to keep a garden up.

I use ammonium nitrate on mine. It just takes a small amount though. I dilute it in water and pour it in about a 6in. circle around them. About a teaspoon per plant. Stuff is wicked strong so be careful not to burn them.

If you put straight powdered MG fertilizer on the plants then you may have burnt them up.
Lol, how? Are you working at 2:00 am?
 

SCARHOLE

Well-Known Member

What is the dilution rate of Miracle-Gro Water Soluble All Purpose Plant Food?


Outdoor dilution rate: 1 tablespoon per gallon of water every 7 to 14 days.
Watering can singles: 1 packet per gallon of water every 7 to 14 days.

NOTE: with new scoop, 1 level scoop of large end equals 1.5 tablespoons for the typical 1.5 gallon watering can. Old scoop level scoop equaled 1 tablespoon.

Indoor dilution rate: 1/2 teaspoon per 2 quarts of water, or 1 teaspoon per gallon of water every 7 to 14 days (small end of scoop = 1/2 teaspoon).
Watering can singles: 1 packet to 2 gallons of water every 7 to 14 days.

Constant feeding method: 1/4 teaspoon per gallon of water, given at every watering.

http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?proId=prod70342&itemId=cat5010 6&tabs=help


I love Miracal Gro, will use it again this year.
Just remember to start em out on about 1/2 strengtht tell they get bigger an can take more.
 

Xare

Well-Known Member
Miracle grow does not contain all the trace elements necessary for vigorous flowering. And its much more work then Organic Fertilization.

You can either choose to fertilize twice a year with organics or twice a week with a chemical based water soluble fertilizer.
 
miricale grow is mjs emeny, read all about it anywhere experienced gardeneres are speaking on it , like the ghuuy abopvr me sai, it doesnt cantain all the stuff u need to grow good mj by itself
 

dnkfrmthasoilz7

Active Member
With an autoflower you would be very satisfied with the result's you get from 1/2 coco coir 1/2 fox farm happy frog and some beneficial's like great white shark or white widdow or even tarantula. That should take you through the time isn't flowering ( I don't know if you would call if veg as I'm not part of the autoflower club lol ) When you see bud's you want to hit it with some iguana juice by AN or the fox farm bloom line. Botanicare came out with an organic line ( ORGANICARE ) you should check out I'm still testing it but to be honest I don't like powdered base nutrient's or additive's only beni's. Good luck and super thrive is a must for all non bloom phases!
 

dnkfrmthasoilz7

Active Member
Seeing as your a not that experienced I would say go mostly organic, less synthetic or ( chemical ) like everyone on these forum's seem to think they are categorized.
 

bang1

Member
thanks for all your replies, i think i will stay away from the miracle grow this time.

i couldnt find alot down in the garden centre, so what i got was a big bag of farm yard manure and a big bag of multipurpose compost.

will mixing these two together be ok do you think?
 

ClamDigger

Active Member
those are good, now i would add coco or pearlite or vermiculite, or worst case Ontario a bale of #4 Sunshine mix.
compost and manure are good additives but it wont have the right air/water holding capability hence why i recommend to add that to another soil mix.
also, ask your local garden center if they have any custom mixes (Tri-Mix is popular i think its 1 part topsoil, 1 part compost, and 1 part vermiculite) , if yes ask for a light, airy soil with plenty of organic matter.

good luck :D
 
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