Life is going fucking amazing

[Daath]

are you asking me if i'm lucifer? no i'd say god made me know my knowledge. so unless god is lucifer, which i think their is only god. lucifer is god and god is lucifer. it's just god made sure we know what the devil is so we can "appear" to have free will. aka choosing bad or good.

here's another way i'm thinking: every choice you have made in you're life happened because you chose it. and their was nothing to construde you away from doing the other action in which you had a choice. so you choices or "free will" is actually already determined. it just appears to us as being real. that's why god made us have deja vu. he is literally talking throught me, out into the universe. i have been planted with an alien feeling, and that alien feeling was given to me by god.

Or, all decisions WERE determined?

What if time, not free will, is the illusion? Infinite "predetermined" possibilities that we choose to experience under the illusion of a finite timeline.

My personal theory, is that we incarnate into the corporeal, to escape the infinite, in order to experience the finite, giving the freedom for true evolution.

 

[Puffer Fish]

I like this theory ... as I look at 'time' ....
As a rate of decay .... of matter ... in physical ... sense alone.
There certainly is a universal conscience ... some can tap into.

 

[BongTokinAlcoholic420]

that sounds plausible. but for me it's like i realize so much and constantly am getting information in which i have been writing down. basically my idea is that god is real. and he jesus was an alien. god wanted everyone to hear about how he had a good message to send but then was crusified. but i think he made sure he died the way he did. and that their are no sins. only actions. also in the bible it says god gave us free will. but it also says he knows what we are going to do before we do it. but christains don't realize that in that statement it makes us think we have freewill. but in all actuality he is in control over us. like we are automated organic machines who are conscious. and every time i have deja vu it's fucking amazing because i don't stop and think "have i done this? it feels as if i have" but rather "i was destined to be living in this moment and nothing could have changed that".

 

[Puffer Fish]

I must think about this and ponder as your are Fixed in your
description to a 'religious specific context'

I interpret Christianity as the latest incarnation
of .... very old belief system ... which predates
anything written ...

 

[BongTokinAlcoholic420]

i want one religion to dominate the world. and that religion will be based off of not having any choices AT ALL. That god is in complete control of all humans in the world, along with every other thing in the universe.

here's a good question. if animals don't have free will, and only live off instinct, at which point did we so called "gain free will". because we are conscious doesn't mean we have choices. i believe we are just living off of instinct. and their instinct is to say that they have free will, only because they are conscious and need the idea of having control...

 

[Puffer Fish]

You speak of this free will .... what exactly is it ?? How do you understand it ?
And if there is a 'Personified GOD' what is his/her/it purpose to 'oversee' us ?
Religion is a concept .... if there is one faith .... universal ... there is only one
religion ... I just want to understand things in the terms used.

What is a free will sir ?

 

[JealousGreen]

Free will is not an illusion. The only illusion is time. You may have become aware that the path of your current incarnation is on what you perceive to be a predetermined trajectory, that does not however necessarily mean that it wasn't your choice to begin this test. Our current state of ignorance has to view time as a collective solid that has a beginning, middle, and end. In reality all that you do in this state of consciousness is happening at the same time. All points are co-tangent. As a result we are sometimes able to glimpse into the time stream one direction or the other by taking part in things like deja vu. Psychadelics can also allow the breakdown of time. What you are doing is simply catching brief glimpses of the over-mind.

 

[BongTokinAlcoholic420]

We don't truly know if we have free will or not. You should read more into it. Determinism vs. Free will.

 

[BongTokinAlcoholic420]

You speak of this free will .... what exactly is it ?? How do you understand it ?
And if there is a 'Personified GOD' what is his/her/it purpose to 'oversee' us ?
Religion is a concept .... if there is one faith .... universal ... there is only one
religion ... I just want to understand things in the terms used.

What is a free will sir ?

Exactly, one religion needs to control this planet. And the only way to that is have people realize that GOD is in complete control over this entire universe. That's what will happen. I promise you this.

 

[JealousGreen]

There was one in the beginning that held that view.

 

[Daath]

Exactly, one religion needs to control this planet. And the only way to that is have people realize that GOD is in complete control over this entire universe. That's what will happen. I promise you this.

There should be no religion. Once a belief is held. the room for change is pushed aside. Evolution cannot be achieved through stagnation.

 

[Swag]

Exactly, one religion needs to control this planet. And the only way to that is have people realize that GOD is in complete control over this entire universe. That's what will happen. I promise you this.

Because we cannot know what God is, but only what He is not, we cannot consider how He is but only how He is not. - Thomas Aquinas

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