Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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beezkneez

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Jack's Classic is what I use, and it's cheap. 20-20-20 with good mix of micros. $10 to $20. I've seen UB mention a ton of different ones, so this will be interesting to see. I think anything in the ratio is what matters. Keeping them Green is my goal.
Daniels
Ive been doing a ton of reading the past few days and have decided that name brand nutes are bullshit! Just need some nitrogen and phosphate :) rest is in my soil. Ill either pick up some flower nova series or jacks
 

Danielsgb

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I realized I'm getting close to running out of Jack's. I got a 8 oz. to try it, loved it & got a 16 oz. Lasted me from July growing countless plants. I bet my local Hydro shop doesn't even carry it. I know the local nursery does. But why would they carry it? They can't sell me 6 other additives, which work for Cannabis. Maybe with a label with a big breasted blonde for $40/qt. Good luck.
Daniels
 

NorthernLights#5

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First and formost much respect for your topping tech. and all the help you have given people,
and with that said im here for help as well, I have a few plants from seed and im wondering whats the
best way to clone for sex what step do i take.
 

Neumann

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I aero-clone, then move into hydroton in my DWC for veg. Often when I place them in the net pots, I snip the bottom node because it ends up too close to the hydroton. Am I dooming my four cola attempt from the start or will the plant redistribute hormones, so my *second* node will eventually become my first?
 

Uncle Ben

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First and formost much respect for your topping tech. and all the help you have given people,
and with that said im here for help as well, I have a few plants from seed and im wondering whats the
best way to clone for sex what step do i take.
Clone for sex? Recommend you post the question in Newbie Central.

I aero-clone, then move into hydroton in my DWC for veg. Often when I place them in the net pots, I snip the bottom node because it ends up too close to the hydroton. Am I dooming my four cola attempt from the start or will the plant redistribute hormones, so my *second* node will eventually become my first?
I doubt if that will work but it doesn't hurt to try.
 

PacoDegato

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Just an idea, so I'm going to throw it out there:

I realize that there is a lot of good info in this thread, but realistically it has become way too cumbersome for someone to read through it. Many things have been asked/answered multiple times and I've only managed to read through the first couple dozen pages. Also, much of the info is off topic in regards to nutrients, CO2, etc. (just from how far I've read so far).

So, how about one of you masters who have read through the entire thread (UB, you'd be the best one obviously, but it's up to whoever would have the expertise AND time) consolidate and/or make a thread or blogsite with a table of contents? I'm pretty sure wordpress.ubtopping.com would be available...

Anyway, I cut one of my plants (first grow) as you've described, and I have four others yet to do. I just figured I'd witness for myself that the first one survives before I decapitate another.

White Rhino and Strawberry Cough are my strains. No idea if I have any females yet as I didn't buy feminized.

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Uncle Ben

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Just an idea, so I'm going to throw it out there:

I realize that there is a lot of good info in this thread, but realistically it has become way too cumbersome for someone to read through it. Many things have been asked/answered multiple times and I've only managed to read through the first couple dozen pages. Also, much of the info is off topic in regards to nutrients, CO2, etc. (just from how far I've read so far).

So, how about one of you masters who have read through the entire thread (UB, you'd be the best one obviously, but it's up to whoever would have the expertise AND time) consolidate and/or make a thread or blogsite with a table of contents? I'm pretty sure wordpress.ubtopping.com would be available...
Well, that's an issue that has been discussed many times in this thread LOL. Again, if you want, write RIU or a senior mod like potroast and get them to unlock my first post so I can edit it. I can then create a comprehensive FAQ and address all of the questions. Why admin insists on keeping the author locked out of his own posts is pretty weird. I'm sure there is a backup in case the author decides to delete the post (horrors!).

Good luck,
UB
 

PacoDegato

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Haha, that's pretty funny (that my suggestion (but of course it has been...stupid of me to assume it hadn't been) hasn't already been made numerous times in the 300+ pages)!

Maybe I'll do the wordpress thing sometime and just cut and paste what you have here. I'm not sure I'll have the time, but maybe if I start it a couple others will pitch in to help me. Of course, all credit will go to the original posters...

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Neumann

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I doubt if that will work but it doesn't hurt to try.
So, essentially once the clone has roots, it's a plant. Once it's a plant, the first node is the first node. It *might* change over time but don't bet the rent money?

Is that the gist of it?

Could I still count from that node point even though it's been pinched off or will taking that node have shut the door totally on the possibility of four colas?
 

DaGrapeApe

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Well, that's an issue that has been discussed many times in this thread LOL. Again, if you want, write RIU or a senior mod like potroast and get them to unlock my first post so I can edit it. I can then create a comprehensive FAQ and address all of the questions. Why admin insists on keeping the author locked out of his own posts is pretty weird. I'm sure there is a backup in case the author decides to delete the post (horrors!).

Good luck,
UB
Much love uncle ben.
What about making a new thread, and having them sticky that? Then your first post could be the orignal post info with the additional FAQ material. Might be the easiest way to get it done.
 

Uncle Ben

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Much love uncle ben.
What about making a new thread, and having them sticky that? Then your first post could be the orignal post info with the additional FAQ material. Might be the easiest way to get it done.
They shut down the author's right to edit their content shortly. Take it up with admin.

Peace, love and German chocolate cupcakes.....
UB
 

The45King

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The first page was enough for me and here we are 328 pages in
the 2 soma beans i topped wer both male so popped a couple more
at weekend wil top em again for sure wanna try and grow 1 out
properly (long veg) peace all
 

Uncle Ben

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The first page was enough for me and here we are 328 pages in
the 2 soma beans i topped wer both male so popped a couple more
at weekend wil top em again for sure wanna try and grow 1 out
properly (long veg) peace all
FWIW, I top 'em all, if they turn out to be good males, I save the pollen for breeding later on.

UB
 

fatboyOGOF

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uncle ben you old fart! i haven't seen your name in years. was it cannabis.com you used to post at or...? nice to see you are still kicking!

i'll have to do some reading and see what you're up to! cheers!
 

Uncle Ben

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uncle ben you old fart! i haven't seen your name in years. was it cannabis.com you used to post at or...? nice to see you are still kicking!

i'll have to do some reading and see what you're up to! cheers!
Yeah, cannabis.com was the first one (actually ADPC newsgroup before that with using encrypted chained servers). How long ago was that, 15 years? What was your handle then?

Welcome to the thread,
Tio
 

medicine21

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Why is this topping method better than topping once at 5th or 6th node to get two colas and THEN a few days or a week later topping them again for 4 colas?
 

riddleme

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Why is this topping method better than topping once at 5th or 6th node to get two colas and THEN a few days or a week later topping them again for 4 colas?
UB's method makes the best use apical dominance (which he explains) your right topping is topping but understanding how and why the plant reacts to it and optimizing it is what this thread is about
 

medicine21

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Ok, I see the technical explanation HERE. But the net result with UB topping is what - faster growth of the lower branches and bigger buds due to more auxins than the "topping twice" method? It seems like UB topping has to catch up here as it is initially a bigger prune of the plant (4 nodes removed).
 
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