Wisconsin Is Not The Only State Where Workers Are Under Attack.

Ernst

Ernst

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Wisconsin is not the only State where workers are under attack.

I thought to share what news i am seeing.

It is being called Shock Doctrine and now 16 states are going after unionised workers.

I am monitoring http://www.democracynow.org/ Wednesday, March 09 2011 if you are reading this after today.. select past shows.

Go to 11:46 to watch the news on the 16 States now attacking workers rights.
 
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JoSixChip

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Ernst said:
Wisconsin is not the only State where workers are under attack.

I thought to share what news i am seeing.

It is being called Shock Doctrine and now 16 states are going after unionised workers.

I am monitoring http://www.democracynow.org/ Wednesday, March 09 2011 if you are reading this after today.. select past shows.

Go to 11:46 to watch the news on the 16 States now attacking workers rights.
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What about the rights of tax payers? These are public sector unions that donate huge amounts of time and money to get certain people elected that will give back to unions what ever they want to stay in office. Can you not see the inherent conflict of interest here? Public sector employees should never be allowed to unionize, period.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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What? Corporations taking over whole Cities under the law? Wow this is a must watch.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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JoSixChip said:
What about the rights of tax payers? These are public sector unions that donate huge amounts of time and money to get certain people elected that will give back to unions what ever they want to stay in office. Can you not see the inherent conflict of interest here? Public sector employees should never be allowed to unionize, period.
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Did you watch?

How Poor is enough for the working class? Remember no one has been convicted of any crime for sending the whole World into the Great Recession and now Banks are reporting historic profits.

So how poor is the right level of poor for the USA?

Have a watch..
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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HarryCarey

HarryCarey

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Ernst we are at extreme odds with each other. I hope we can debate without anger, but these unions you speak of are the very reasson for the recession, should we abolish them? When unions force companies to pay there employees pensions and retirement for 40 years (ya 40) after they stop working for them that company eventually cannot afford to do business i.e. GM. When that company can no longer afford to do business sustainably would you then ask the gov. to bail them out (oh ya that already happened)
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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HarryCarey said:
Ernst we are at extreme odds with each other. I hope we can debate without anger, but these unions you speak of are the very reasson for the recession, should we abolish them? When unions force companies to pay there employees pensions and retirement for 40 years (ya 40) after they stop working for them that company eventually cannot afford to do business i.e. GM. When that company can no longer afford to do business sustainably would you then ask the gov. to bail them out (oh ya that already happened)
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So deregulation, wall street, and the banks had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Recession? But it's the Unions that did this that only 11.9% of Americans belong to? Once again, only 11.9% of Americans are in a Union. How in the world can you possibly expect anyone to swallow that? Seriously?
 
HarryCarey

HarryCarey

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To be honest I was using an example of that and I agree that wall street and the banking system played a much larger role in our recession. But DEregulation, come on, we havent been deregulating since FDR took over in 30's
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Well, how poor should the American people be to make our country great again?
I do understand the international labor issue and the Corporate tax rate issue.
However how low is low enough and for how long will that work?

Are we now going backwards where our children will have lives worse than we did and their children worse lives and so on?
So how poor must we get to save America?

I hope I can keep a good thing going with the chat so, I'll try not to be angry.. I've had issues with labels. "Whiner" or other labels set people up as the community ass to kick.. had enough of that sort of juvenile stuff.

Anyway I'll do my best to hold up my end.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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HarryCarey said:
To be honest I was using an example of that and I agree that wall street and the banking system played a much larger role in our recession. But DEregulation, come on, we havent been deregulating since FDR took over in 30's
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Is it possible that all this is planned?
From 911 on.

Oh yes we did deregulate.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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Uncultivated said:
F the public-sector unions! Sorry, but they got it a lot better than most people...
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No they don't. They set the standard for the rest of us. That is we have minimum wage and 5 day work weeks instead of 7, vacations, sick leave, that's why we have employee benefits and health insurance, that's why we have child labor laws and safety laws. Unions did this for us. It has been shown over and over again that private sector employees with comparable education/degrees are actually paid more.
 
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newatit2010

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The union members must love paying millions of their retirement money to the democrat party. Oh they know the American tax payer will make up the difference. Being obama wants a billion dollars for his 2012 election maybe the unions need to pay more for dues.
 
ink the world

ink the world

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newatit2010 said:
The union members must love paying millions of their retirement money to the democrat party. Oh they know the American tax payer will make up the difference. Being obama wants a billion dollars for his 2012 election maybe the unions need to pay more for dues.
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LOL you contradicted yourself within 2 sentences.

You realize that Obama does not get any of the union retirement money......keep eating up the lies that Rove and his cohorts feed you.
 
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newatit2010

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ink the world said:
LOL you contradicted yourself within 2 sentences.

You realize that Obama does not get any of the union retirement money......keep eating up the lies that Rove and his cohorts feed you.
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Yea I am sure that obama gave GM unions 23 billion dollars and don't expect any thing in return. He is a God sent (george soros) to destroy America and the bastard has lied every time he opens his mouth. Damn shame we will not be ableto look in to his back ground when he loses his bought off election. But of course you will not believe your God has done any thing wrong.
Lies yes He was going to close gitmo and now he is going to keep it open. Maybe he just misspoke. Damn that sack of shit
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Carne Seca said:
Amazing how you fail to mention how this is due to overtime. You work extra, you get paid extra. That's the way it works. This isn't salary. Your post is misleading.

Oh, and another thing. Whether he is a private or government employee, He still gets paid by "the people."
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Sort of. In the private sector people have a CHOICE of what they will or will not purchase and can shop for their services from company A or company B, or if they don't like the options they can start their own company or simply do without that particular service and keep their money.

No such choice exists in the public sector does it?
Do you deny that ?
 
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Chad Sexington

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The whole "we are in tough financial times" might be taken a little more seriously, if they would cut the tax breaks and tax refunds to the big corporations. Granted that they do employ alot of people wich makes up for it in income tax, but hey, times are tough so it is legit (just ask those in favour of cutting the teacher union's benefits/pay), it not like those tax refunds/breaks are writen in stone. Otherwise the whole thing just screams of sillyness.
 
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