secretweapon
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Same dude, I don't want to live under capitalism w/o regulation
Immigration will eventually destroy the United States
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beardo
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Yeah before they start enforcing border security and you can't get out
isn't this the exact same thing the native americans said?
UncleBuck
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Mike Young
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[video=youtube;nW20EMJr6o4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW20EMJr6o4[/video]
trishmybiscuits
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fdd2blk wrote: "isn't this the exact same thing the native americans said?"
I'm not sure I understand the point. Why don't you clarify
I'm not sure I understand the point. Why don't you clarify
SmokeyMcSmokester
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hmmm...lets think about this...the pilgrams and early colonists were immigrants. we kinda kicked those natives out didnt we? kinda destroying their country and way of life...
trishmybiscuits
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SmokeyMcSmokester wrote: "hmmm...lets think about this...the pilgrams and early colonists were immigrants. we kinda kicked those natives out didnt we? kinda destroying their country and way of life..."
Indeed, let's try thinking about it. Is the writer merely stating a simple fact or is the writer implying that because the settlers forced out the natives that immigrants - anyone - can just flood in here without limit, all 7 billion of the world's people, because, hey, after all, isn'r that what we did to the natives?
Duh?
Indeed, let's try and think about it.
Indeed, let's try thinking about it. Is the writer merely stating a simple fact or is the writer implying that because the settlers forced out the natives that immigrants - anyone - can just flood in here without limit, all 7 billion of the world's people, because, hey, after all, isn'r that what we did to the natives?
Duh?
Indeed, let's try and think about it.
secretweapon
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If your not a native American chances are pretty good your ancestors are immigrants, sounds like racism to me.
CheebaNinja
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actually even you are a strange person in a strange land there squanto. the people who eventually came be known as native americans both in the north and south continents crossed a land bridge from asia into the americas during the last ice age. technically you're an immigrant too. if you want us out, you get out.
these two continents had no humans once before. if you think everyone else should leave EVERYONE has to leave. otherwise get over it.
420God
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That's really your rebuttal?
Same argument could be made about Europeans migrating from Africa if you want to argue semantics.
You know for certain where the Natives of this land came from? You were there?
cannabisguru
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I have to disagree with this.
I mean, is immigrating people dangerous to the USA and natural born U.S. citizens? Sure.. its very dangerous. However, I don't think that the U.S. government would let it get to that point to begin with.
They would put a halt on ALL immigration... and sure, you would still have people such as the dirty Mexicans from Mexico trying to get across the U.S./Mexico border into the U.S. for a better "life". Border Patrol agents know what to look for, as far as being able to tell the difference between an innocent person/family (whos really truly looking for a better life for his family) and a group/single individual that is simply wanting to come across in order to drop off/deliver his/her/their drugs for money.
IMO, they need to close the U.S.A/Mexico border COMPLETELY.. and for GOOD. If they would make it big enough.. and long enough.. it would work. But currently, there are too many gaps in the border wall.. and thats a big problem.
But again, if immigration started to get out of hand.. the U.S. government would shut it down.. all immigration would be declined.. and border patrol agents would be on high alert.. and probably be given the authority to use deadly force (which they already do.. I'm talking on a higher level). The borders are monitored 24/7 all year round.. not only by physical beings (patrol agents) but also by remote monitored cameras that are mounted at various points along the border wall structure.
Sooo.. yeah, I don't see it ever getting to a critical point. If it ever does, well.. like I just explained...
peace.
I mean, is immigrating people dangerous to the USA and natural born U.S. citizens? Sure.. its very dangerous. However, I don't think that the U.S. government would let it get to that point to begin with.
They would put a halt on ALL immigration... and sure, you would still have people such as the dirty Mexicans from Mexico trying to get across the U.S./Mexico border into the U.S. for a better "life". Border Patrol agents know what to look for, as far as being able to tell the difference between an innocent person/family (whos really truly looking for a better life for his family) and a group/single individual that is simply wanting to come across in order to drop off/deliver his/her/their drugs for money.
IMO, they need to close the U.S.A/Mexico border COMPLETELY.. and for GOOD. If they would make it big enough.. and long enough.. it would work. But currently, there are too many gaps in the border wall.. and thats a big problem.
But again, if immigration started to get out of hand.. the U.S. government would shut it down.. all immigration would be declined.. and border patrol agents would be on high alert.. and probably be given the authority to use deadly force (which they already do.. I'm talking on a higher level). The borders are monitored 24/7 all year round.. not only by physical beings (patrol agents) but also by remote monitored cameras that are mounted at various points along the border wall structure.
Sooo.. yeah, I don't see it ever getting to a critical point. If it ever does, well.. like I just explained...
peace.
CheebaNinja
Member
genetic testing PROVES where native americans came from. and no it's not a matter of semantics. we all came from africa therefore we all need to get over this "i was here first, YOU are just an immigrant" bullshit while ignoring the fact people shouting such nonsense are immigrants themselves.That's really your rebuttal?
Same argument could be made about Europeans migrating from Africa if you want to argue semantics.
You know for certain where the Natives of this land came from? You were there?
if one group of people are expected to leave a land because they're immigrants then everyone else has to leave as well. it's called applying logic evenly, otherwise it's just a double standard and i dont follow double standards. what applies to one applies to all. otherwise you're no different than a klansmen who thinks he's superior to you because he's white and you arent. it's bullshit thinking and you know it.
cannabisguru
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eh, I disagree. I know for a FACT, I didn't come from Africa.
I came from Italy... well, my parents were from Italy. I was born in the U.S.A. though.
But yeah, I'm not from Africa, and neither were any of my ancestors.
You and your family might be from Africa, but not mine.
Peace.
CheebaNinja
Member
according to history.com...
Early Maya, 1800 B.C. to A.D. 250
The earliest Maya settlements date to around 1800 B.C., or the beginning of what is called the Preclassic or Formative Period.
more than enough time from when the earth began warming up after the last ice age. by thousands of years.
try again?
CheebaNinja
Member
wow, denial is an ugly thing
420God
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cannabisguru
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It is isn't it? Ignorance is also bliss..
grow up.
Done with this kid... where's the ignore button at? I'm too old to argue with some immature and uneducated kid.
I come from Pangea. I'm very old.