24/hour light in veg is it good or should I 18/6?

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abudtokr

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DrFever

DrFever

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running 24 hr cycle with T5's or what ever only give you bushier plants yes 24 hr cycle for clones up to 3 " then switching to 18/6 IMO is optimum growing what i have found to be work best for me
most peeps will say they do it but what kind of power are they useing CFl's T'5s

I run 10,000 watts and can tell you after 18hrs of light there begging for lights off there all drooped
growing indoor your imitating nature trying to get it all dialed in for best results and thats needing both light hrs and darkness

I would like to mention i have worked in areas where theres bin total light 24hrs out side and there no growth what so ever other then extreme cold climates as well as total darkness and can say the same no GRowth

what are we really trying to do is give a plant the spring summer climates as we go into flower giving them fall climates just like nature has for billions of years

IMO what growers with knowledge do

24 hr cycle for seedlings / clones up to 3 - 4 "

Veg 18/6 2 to 5 weeks

flower 12/12 6 - ?? weeks pending
as they get into last few weeks cutting lights to 11.5 on to 12.5 off to 11 on 13 off
just like fall or just leaving it on 12 /12 cycle Cheers peeps
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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y must i post all the evidence ive written? ive given u a definition of what sleeping is and then i gave u numerous links to evidence supporting the fact that plants wether it be light or dark are vigoursly working....and not once does ur discription of plants sleeping at night fit into the evidence shown....

ive read all the links u have posted and not one link proves a plant is sleeping...i have responded to every peice of 'evidence' uve provided and not one of your articles states that a plant stops doing everything and sleeps at night.

a dormant plant is a sleeping one right? so if its never dormant unless the techniques ive already explained than how do u conclude that a plant is sleeping?
 
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abudtokr

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Becasue everything on earth grows while it sleeps.

Humans dont sleep? Is this what your saying? I mean if your bring the definition of the word up.
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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ok with that being said u are smart enough to understand the definition of sleeping correct? ok so if there is no change in the rate the plant works with the light on or off than how is it sleeping? the only thing that u have determined to sleeping is the lights being off.....wena human is awake there body is working 100times harder! wen the human is asleep they are dormant and conciusly arent working one bit! and the little bit of work there bodies are doing is mainly recooperating!
with a plant wen is light our is working just as hard as wen the lights are off so what determines the fact that they are sleeping other than absence of light?....nothing!
 
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krazey47409

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who cares if plants sleep i just wanna know if 24/7 or 18/6 is better?which will be better and give me the most growth in the 3-4 weeks i plan to flower for ?? I dont have time for a long veg thats why i asked which will give me the most growth and best results
 
DrFever

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krazey47409 said:
who cares if plants sleep i just wanna know if 24/7 or 18/6 is better?which will be better and give me the most growth in the 3-4 weeks i plan to flower for ?? I dont have time for a long veg thats why i asked which will give me the most growth and best results
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Krazey IMO run 18/6 you be happy
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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abudtokr said:
Well I hope you know more about plants then you do the human body. Because your statement is FALSE. The body is just as hard at work if not harder then you are when sleeping. Here is a link from a Dr's mouth. http://www.ehow.com/video_5113259_happens-body-sleep_.html
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so if im out running all day breaking a sweat and dehydrating and hydrating, fuiling and refuiling my body isnt working more than wen im asleep?
but lets say i am wrong about the human body wen it sleeps...u still havent proven that a plant sleeps...................so we can get hung up on less important shit, that in the end really has nothing to do with the topic in hand, its up to u
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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krazey47409 said:
who cares if plants sleep i just wanna know if 24/7 or 18/6 is better?which will be better and give me the most growth in the 3-4 weeks i plan to flower for ?? I dont have time for a long veg thats why i asked which will give me the most growth and best results
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have u not read this thread? the whole plants do/dont sleep came about by answering ur question
 
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abudtokr

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you said the body shuts down, DORMANT witch your saying the definition of the word is. Thus sleeping!! Your telling me that a plant dont sleep becasue it is always growing. The human sleeps, and it grows while sleeping. So EVERY THING THAT IS ALIVE SLEEPS. Period end of discussion.
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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abudtokr said:
you said the body shuts down, DORMANT witch your saying the definition of the word is. Thus sleeping!! Your telling me that a plant dont sleep becasue it is always growing. The human sleeps, and it grows while sleeping. So EVERY THING THAT IS ALIVE SLEEPS. Period end of discussion.
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so u are now using the human body to prove that plants sleep?
and so u know u use more energy wen ur awake then u dop wen ur sleeping hence the definition of sleeping!
the plant doesnt just grow wen the lights are out the plant is working....working..wen the human is awake they are working wen they are sleeping they are not...if the plant works just as much if not more wen the light are out how do u keep comin bac to conclusion that its sleeping? u have no proof and plants and humans are not alike so u need to get off the fact that humans sleep at night so plants do to! becuase its just ignorence now u can get hung up on all this other bullshit but a fact is a fact and plants dont sleep


and the human is dormant not there internal processes, so not only are u ignorin the fact that we have stated evidence u are ignorin and diagreeing with the ditctionary...this only gets better lol
 
kingofqueen

kingofqueen

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:clap: Another overnight botanist I see . You do realize that you are the only person in this thread that thinks a plant sleeps . Damn mine must be preety sleepy by now especialy the one that has been on 24/0 for 14 weeks. Mabey I should give her a nap so she can sleep !:idea:

Lights being off has nothing to do with a plant sleeping . The only time they shutdown or "sleep" is after a rain , that is everywhere else besides your grow , apparently you have majical plants that can snore .:idea: Unless you can (and dont bother trying on this one) prove a statement with scientific or University studies don't come in here spreading bad info based on ignorance and "Wikipedia ,answers.com " that stuff doesn't back anything . Quit spreading ignorance in our forum pls. And that is all the the time worth spending on this .:bigjoint:
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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well saif KOQ but of course he will have something that wil disagree and we are all wrong because his 3 sites on the world wide web said so...and o yea humans do it so plants do as well!
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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u see what im saying he gets hung up on irrelevent bullshit...now how does dd420 post help to prove ur statement? ur wrong plain out and simple u and ur 3forum links are wrong we have provided many relaible sources for u to read but u choose to ignore them and use forum topics from other forums to bac it up. we all no u have no purpose now other than to be as ignorant as possible and i hope that those who drop by this thread are able to weed out the oppinions from the obvious facts provided


and after just rereading that dd420 posted that becuase we wur disagreeing that plants on 24hr light grow faster and healthier...so infact that sentence isnt even suporting u but instead goin against ur initial beleif that plants need a rest period....

incase u didnt get that dd420 is calling u and everyone else in this thread ignorant for nto agreeing that plants dont need to rest....

so bac to my questin how does that support ur beleif? and i say beleif becuase that is all it is


edit: not to sure if i did or not but thank u! u have just supported our argument even further!
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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lolf well i guess that proves that lofl....can i ask somethin though? how can u take someones post tat posted wayyyy be4 u ever added ur misinformation, and use to say he agrees with something u posted way after? and to top it all off he wrote that to disagree with you lofl ur ignorance is very clear! but bac to the point in hand plants need a dark period to complete photosynthisis and enter a different stage of production to promote more healthy anfd vigrous growth.

im sorry ur ego was attacked today but that type of stuff needs to be done to get rid of uneducated ingnorant oppinionated people such as urself, stick to facts and everything will be str8. but this is a prime example of how this site has become worse and worse and worse and how myths and forum hype/bullshit is started!
 
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