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UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
i am only 20.

and i am still some what of a noob, ive never even done an outdoor and yet i am sure i wil prove you wrong.

seeds for me yes they are free, i know many friendly med growers who hook me up and i dont even have t ask.
clones yes they do cost, so it will be a seed grow.

and no not just straight to the forest, start off in pots first and maybe start only 10 just to get a few females.
a hole is not hard to dig with my hands but i prefer a small shovel witch i already have, plus the forest ground here is very rich in nutrients.

and harvest is nothing man, i got god shears but i can do a great trim job with a 1 dollar pair of scissors, but i have real trimming scissors already to.

you are coming up with questions that have simple answers.

you must think i was gonna start now. i am not i am gonna wait till summer. and not all 24 plants will be alive once they hit a foot tall so thats 18 plants that you dont have to worry about. legal limit is 6 mature plants. and you can get more then enough meds off of 1 indoor plant let alone 6.

i am not much older and ya i am a felon who the fuck cares, you never made mistakes?

it is so easy to grow for very cheap.

here you go.

dirt is fucking free it is not hard to make you own with a few different ingredients.
2 fertilizer is also free. horse shit, cow shit, rabbit shit, compost, fuck even used coffee grounds are free.
seeds are free for me, i have a collection of seeds and med patients are always willing to help out for free where i live cuz i am willing to help them out for free when needed.
germinating does not cost money, hardening a plant does not cost money.
i have all the containers i need, and it is not that hard to make one out some wood i have laying around. or you could just strt it off in a small water bottle its not hard or expensive.

every thing i will use will be FREE. my dirt,nutes,seeds,pots every thing
be prepared to get out of your harvest what you put in.

even if you somehow succeed in even harvesting a plant, it will take TONS of work.

ommp law does not allow reimbursement for that work.

thus, you are saying we should be willing to work for free.

FUCK THAT.

don't be pissed that i don't pay my electric, or water bill, or any number of other supplies and utilities that go into my grow.

be pissed that i would screen out a mooch like you from getting any free weed.

you'd have to donate just like anyone else who isn't in dire need and also broke. weed ain't free to produce.

it costs considerable amounts of money to grow indoors, upwards of $100 per ounce.

and if you pull enough weight off 6 plants grown in the forest to last you all year (all while investing $0.00), i promise i will give you a free ounce of weed.

you are naive.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
be prepared to get out of your harvest what you put in.

even if you somehow succeed in even harvesting a plant, it will take TONS of work.

ommp law does not allow reimbursement for that work.

thus, you are saying we should be willing to work for free.

FUCK THAT.

don't be pissed that i don't pay my electric, or water bill, or any number of other supplies and utilities that go into my grow.

be pissed that i would screen out a mooch like you from getting any free weed.

you'd have to donate just like anyone else who isn't in dire need and also broke. weed ain't free to produce.

it costs considerable amounts of money to grow indoors, upwards of $100 per ounce.

and if you pull enough weight off 6 plants grown in the forest to last you all year (all while investing $0.00), i promise i will give you a free ounce of weed.

you are naive.
your smoking crack if you think it cost $100 an oz to grow.. it mor like $25 or$50.. it don't cost that much at all to grow. see its guys and growers like your self that say it cost a lot to grow mj. why is this so , so you can justifie your donation,, i mean sell of marijuana
 

Luther

Active Member
Yeah, but everyone calls Uncle Buck, melanoma head. We call him that. Old Buck Melanoma head is coming.
 

mcpurple

Well-Known Member
i dont want your weed, im sure you would charge.

and an indoor grow does not cost that much, mabye the start up fee but thats it
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
your smoking crack if you think it cost $100 an oz to grow.. it mor like $25 or$50.. it don't cost that much at all to grow. see its guys and growers like your self that say it cost a lot to grow mj. why is this so , so you can justifie your donation,, i mean sell of marijuana
$25 an ounce indoors? yeah fucking right.
Let's take a look here at what it would take to run a one patient grow for a year so we can average out the costs of supplies, as OMMP allows for reimbursement for supplies.





600 watt HPS - $200


exhaust/intake fans - $100


building supplies - $50+


pots - $30





So, we now have a room with air, lights, and pots. Now all we need are plants.





6 clones - $30+





Now we have to put them into the pots...





soil & perlite (batch 1) - $50





Clones need to be vegged out. We could do this in the flowering room, but it would add another month to grow time. In the end, it is cheaper to keep them vegging seperately.





400 watt MH -$120


intake/exhaust fans -$80


building supplies - $50+





So now our clones have been vegged out and ready to flower. Better make sure to clone them out first, keep the clones in the veg room, and use them once the first batch is done flowering.





Cloning materials - $40





We will still need a few things to make sure this goes well. At the very least, we need nutrients...





nutrients - $50


thermomemters - $20





Now we need to run the lights, a 400 watt and a 600 watt. 400 watts for 20 hours a day, so 8 kw hours per day for veg. 600 watt for 12 hours, so 7.2 kw hours per day for flower. Add on another 100+ watts for fans and whatnot at 24 hours a day, you get another 2.4 kw hours per day for ventilation.





18 kw hours per day at $0.10 per kw hour = $1.80 per day = $54 per month = $650 per year.





Portland gets cold in winter, between 35 - 45 degrees for months at a time. Plants don't grow with those temps, so we need another utility, heat. I can't even come up with a number for this, let's play it conservative again and say...





heat = $50 per month = $600 per year





I have never heard of a decent homeless grower, so let's add in another utility, rent to keep a roof over the plants. Let's be conservative...





rent = $500 per month = $6,000 per year





Now, we need to water these plants. Let's suppose we use tap water (not suggested) since it is cheapest. Within city limits, the least you will pay for water services is $65 per month.





$65 per month = $780 per year





Now, suppose we crop out six times a year, once every two months. We need to replace the soil each and every time.





soil = $50 per batch = $300 per year





I have ommitted an awful lot here and lowballed even more. Despite all this, the minimum cost to set up and run a single patient grow for one year is at least $9,000 per year. This is based on a 600 watt flower light with 1 month veg time. Plants like that will yield about 2-4 ounces per plant, approximately (you may be a better grower or you may not be that good...this is just for round estimates). Let's take an average of 2 ounces per plant, as ALL of my estimates have been ULTRA conservative





2 ounces per plant * 6 plants = 12 ounces per crop * 6 crops per year = 72 ounces per year.





$9000/72 ounces = $125 per ounce JUST to cover costs of supplies and utilities.





What did I NOT take into account? A LOT.





Ever get mites? Add another $50-$100 per year to take care of mite control/eradication


Ever get fungus, mold, PM? Add another $50-$100 per year to take care of these things


Want your finished product to look decent? Add $25 for a good pair of trimmers.


Got some good plants? You'll need to stake up branches. Add another $25 for stakes.


Did your lamp burn out? Add another $40 for a replacement lamp.


Is $50 realistic to build a grow space? Not on your life. Frame it out with 2x4's, buy some OSB for walls, some paint, some hinges for doors, chains to hang lights, hardware to screw it all together...you get the picture. The tools to build such a space are not free either.





So, to all the greedy patients who want 6 ounces a month (so you can sell the other 5 that you don't smoke)....go eff yourselves. Be happy with what your grower gives you, don't tell them how to run the show, and take what you are given. More than anything, shut the eff up. I am sick of your sense of entitlement.
 

mcpurple

Well-Known Member
i want summer to be here so i can prove that more ten 1 ounce can be grown for FREE and that weed is not that expensive to grow
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
i cut my own clones, i don't have to buy nuts but once a year.. i run my lamps tell they burn out.
you cut your own clones, fine. do you buy rooting powder or gel? do you they float in the air, or do you place them in a medium and a container?

you buy all your nutrients once a year, fine. how much does that run you?

i also run my lamps until they burn out (since hps usually has as much as 80% power left when it burns out). do they replace themselves for free or do you have to buy new lamps?

do you grow in an unheated, rent-free cardboard box, or do you pay rent on the location where your plants are growing and heat to keep it warm?

does the electric company waive your bill, or do you pay that every month?

and so on and so forth.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
i want summer to be here so i can prove that more ten 1 ounce can be grown for FREE and that weed is not that expensive to grow
you don't need to wait. i will tell you from experience: it is somewhat possible.

although, even with the ones i put out last year, i still had to visit them with neem oil ready to spray (not free) or nutrients to feed them (not free).

and even if it is free in terms of dollar cost, it will cost you plenty of calories. guerilla growing is not for the faint of heart.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
you cut your own clones, fine. do you buy rooting powder or gel? do you they float in the air, or do you place them in a medium and a container?

you buy all your nutrients once a year, fine. how much does that run you?

i also run my lamps until they burn out (since hps usually has as much as 80% power left when it burns out). do they replace themselves for free or do you have to buy new lamps?

do you grow in an unheated, rent-free cardboard box, or do you pay rent on the location where your plants are growing and heat to keep it warm?

does the electric company waive your bill, or do you pay that every month?

and so on and so forth.

25 an ounce
 

Beacon

Active Member
#1 cashcrop in the world.... what do you expect.
a lil cheaper than $225 or $200, especially for outdoor hay, or even indoor pulled early crap, why go to all the trouble and pull plants with clear trichs...........?! Patient still waiting for all that OR killa, in the spirit of Hyb, it must be in Portland, cause it ain't down south
 

incognegro999

Well-Known Member
What is this free weed thing you speak of? haha its communism. If you dont like the price find someone cheaper. Im all for if people want to give stuff away great. Everyone should donate to worthy causes. But to expect it is crazy. I wish I could expect the bank to give me a car at 0% interest. I think one of the coolest things ever would be to a full time grower and from my grow be able to pay my bills and live a decent life. I shouldnt have that oppurtunity because you want free things?
 

tafbang

Well-Known Member
be prepared to get out of your harvest what you put in.

even if you somehow succeed in even harvesting a plant, it will take TONS of work.

ommp law does not allow reimbursement for that work.

thus, you are saying we should be willing to work for free.

FUCK THAT.

don't be pissed that i don't pay my electric, or water bill, or any number of other supplies and utilities that go into my grow.

be pissed that i would screen out a mooch like you from getting any free weed.

you'd have to donate just like anyone else who isn't in dire need and also broke. weed ain't free to produce.

it costs considerable amounts of money to grow indoors, upwards of $100 per ounce.

and if you pull enough weight off 6 plants grown in the forest to last you all year (all while investing $0.00), i promise i will give you a free ounce of weed.

you are naive.

I just stumbled upon this and laughed my ass off....


1st. It takes no work planting outdoors
2nd. I'm pulling in ounces using ceiling lights and growing in a bedroom with dirt in a baby basket. no nutrients and using miracle grow.
3rd. "if you somehow succeed in even harvesting a plant, it will take TONS of work." you really doubt a guy with a plan and many seeds isn't going to harvest a plant?! smdh

4. lay off the crack pipe
 
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