hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
tryed that to no luck
Bleach instead of H2o2
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Tiger Woods
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Hellraizer- I feel your pain. I was debating on either DM zone or sm90 as well. I've chosen sm90 for the extra shit it can be used for(foilage spray exc..). Its pretty fucking high though. Also was considering buying Nutriboost(also a nutrilife product) but been thinking the sm90 should be enough with the addition of h2o2 inbetween rez. changes. Bleach did knock out my rot but 3+ weeks really set back my preptual, gotta have something I can rely on. I've found cold rez temps is really the way to go but I'll still be using a preventive.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
yah my res temp in the 60s f so im thinking any colder will slow growth
how is the sm 90 working for you?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
guess I could slowly up the amount of bleach, il add 15ML next time and watch for negative/positive results
choempi
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totaly agree, though my res is 68 average, no smells or growths using only bleach
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
not dising bleach at all just cant get rid of this shit in my res, its not causing root rot my roots are white and nice looking. just around the edges and on the foam
I see blown slime. Im going to try some DM-zone when it come on order, but for now im going to up the amount of bleach to 15ml per 55gal, thats about 10drops
per gal. hope see a change
I see blown slime. Im going to try some DM-zone when it come on order, but for now im going to up the amount of bleach to 15ml per 55gal, thats about 10drops
per gal. hope see a change
frogster
Active Member
That amount is fine,, I added 25ml to 50 gallons to fresh tap water (2ppm? chlorine?) when I first started using bleach.. it will work,,, your "upper ring" may not be getting wet .. use a strong dose and fill higher than normal to soak the rez wall that may have stuff sitting on it... or make a solution and spray the upper walls if you can.. im using reg. clorox... .. forgot the %... I posted it way earlier in this thread..
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
25ml IN 50 GAL and no signs of negative plant growth? Il work up from my 10ml now to 15ml and keep going up
frogster
Active Member
No neg signs.. matter of fact my plants are getting fatter,, im in final weeks of flowering.. The 25ml was a one time shock,, when I switched .. I usually put in 15ml.. every couple of days,,, even when I did a rez change,, thats on top of the chlorine thats there already...
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
ok cool beans man thanks!!
Serapis
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BUMP
This thread may solve my problems. My very first EZC run with 15 cuttings ended in disaster. All of the stems got slimed and turned brown. This was WHILE using EZC's new product "Clear Rez". Clear Rez has a bleach like smell to it. I just think the amount recommended to use was too light. I am going to give 6-8 drops of bleach per gallon a try this time...
To those that have posted they would get back t us, please post your results.
This thread may solve my problems. My very first EZC run with 15 cuttings ended in disaster. All of the stems got slimed and turned brown. This was WHILE using EZC's new product "Clear Rez". Clear Rez has a bleach like smell to it. I just think the amount recommended to use was too light. I am going to give 6-8 drops of bleach per gallon a try this time...
To those that have posted they would get back t us, please post your results.
poindexterous
Active Member
I tested clear-rez with a pool test kit, and to make a solution of the same chlorine level either add 12ml 6% bleach, or 1gram pool shock, to a gallon of water.
I doubled it and add 2gram pool shock per gal of water. Then I add an ounce of that solution per 5gal just like clear-rez, but more often, every other day or daily. So about one ounce in my 30 and two in my 60.
This has made all the difference in the survival of cuttings in my ez-clones. The 6-8 drops recommended in this thread is much stronger than the clear-rez, or my level, so maybe I should go stronger, but this has worked consistently so I'm happy so far. I wouldn't even bother to use ez-cloners anymore without chlorine.
poindexterous
Active Member
Usually bleach is 6% sodium hypochlorite, but as long as it doesn't have perfumes or other additives should be fine, you could up the dose but it shouldn't matter, I'm at 1/10 the 6-8drop level and it's working. My last two batches of clones in my 30 and 60 were both 100% survival and very well rooted. Before chlorine it was really hit or miss, some would just fall over, some stayed up but turned yellow and didn't root, some rooted but died after. Chlorine was a total cure. Still strongly bleach the ez-cloners between batches. Also pool test strips are handy to know ppm of chlorine, "Aquacheck Pro 5-in-1" test strips are my favorite for this.
I started using the pool shock as well. Much easier to deal with then straight bleach. I used 24 grams per gallon and add 1 teaspoon for every 5 gallons of water and add it every other day if I remember. I beleive its 2X as strong as Clear Rez.
You dont think that changing the water out between runs and using fresh foam inserts would be sufficient? I have a huge 120 site that holds 20 gal and would be a PITA to clean out where it is located. Seems like fresh water and a string dose of the stuff run through the system would clean it all out.
SlimDigital
Active Member
My babies turned white then I said let me try again with another batch....they turned white also. Ill stick w/H202!
poindexterous
Active Member
Hey D,
I've been trying a bit higher also for my most current ez-clone batch, 5g/gal base and 1oz/5gal of it to rez, so that's equal to 30g/gal at the teaspoon per 5gal ratio, so pretty close to what you're doing. At about 10 days most are showing roots now, so this level seems to be fine.
As far as additional bleaching/cleaning between rounds, I still do it to be safe but it may not be necessary. I like to at least bleach the pump/manifold/nozzle assembly, where any gunk is most likely to be, but that can be submerged and run in a 5gal bucket of bleach solution which is easier than bleaching the whole thing. Also I bleach the foam inserts. But the plastic body probably needs no more than a hose rinsing. Trial and error will tell, many more cuttings to take and learn from...