Reprint;dd started his following, claiming that he could show farmers how to grow trees that yield 4lbs. Many of us jumped on the "mpb" bandwagon, and spent tens of thousands on rdwc gear, and listened to his every word about how to get these monster trees with dd's magical system. So, after many failed crops, by many veteran, expert growers, most all left the mpb, dwc system thinking that we just don't have the magic touch. But, after talking with many of us who've tried the system, it turns out that the only reason dd got the yield he claimed, WAS BECAUSE OF THE G13 CUT HE HAS. Hell, he disappeared from his own forum for over 6 months because he couldn't explain why after over 2 years with this system, he was the only one who could get anything close to 4lbs. UNTIL HE STARTED OFFERING THOSE GENETICS TO APPEASE THE PISSED, AND HE OFFERED IT TO ME. I myself, spent well over 30k on grow gear to accomodate dd's intructions. According to dd, because of his following and SUPPOSED results, (I know many master growers who never got over 2lbs per tree, after many rounds trying), he got a 400k contract with a nute company to reproduce his rdwc, mpb (med patient bucket) system. The gentleman disappeared from the boards because he was getting called out on system issues and other moo poo that caused people to have crops fail. After he got the 400k, he was gone. He has since returned, but on a very limited basis, and doesn't reply much to posts. In fact, if you ask the wrong question about that system, you'll get banned from that forum. I've seen it happen to many good farmers who were just asking for more detail, so they wouldn't lose another round. I lost tens of thousands because of dd's moo poo, and he's a liar. Also, I've talked with respected, veteran farmers who claim that dd never developed that system, he just borrowed others' idea's. I know 4 others personally who'll concur. THE ONLY REASON HE HAS A REPUTATION IS BECAUSE OF THE G13 HE HAS, NOT THE DWC SYSTEM HE DEVELOPED (STOLE). I don't think he wanted anyone to know that though, or his nute company deal would go south, make sense? The most respected growers around North America know of dd and his moo poo. If you don't know this, you're showing your donkey. dd still gets new followers because they read 3 year old posts about growing 4lb trees, and get yield fever. Watch out though, because many of his followers go deaf and dumb once they start buying his BS. I know, I was one of 'em. Also, I get better yields now that I'm not using that system. DD is responsible for many growers wasting thousands on equipment, lost rounds, hopeful to get these supposed results, when it wasn't even possible WITHOUT that strain. Ego run wild, it's not the system. If you choose to bash Doc and support dd, you've bet on the wrong horse, and are showing what you DON'T know. So, it would be wise not to talk about either Doc or DD until you know them. I know them both, and have done biz with them both. Doc's the real deal.