Bushmaster WORKS, period !! Gravity Works great too ! Pictures inside !

[Wolverine97]

Lively, Don't get me wrong...I know EXACTLY what you were showing. I just didn't care for some people showing a fuller plant and others calling both plants shitty, not even knowing what plant it was. The case for Bushmaster your pics presented was very convincing. Personally, I doubt that anyone who has actually used the product even needs to see evidence that it works. I'm not sure what the big argument is about. It's just another tool in the garden.

As far as the gentleman with the LST plants "9 times bushier", it may be true. I use LST extensively on plants that yield 1/2 lb+. BUT, I still keep a bottle of Bush for when it may help with the grow. I, unlike some others, am not perfect, and make mistakes and misscalculations in the garden. I've found the Bush helpful in recovering from something like taking cuttings a little early and needing to reduce my vertical growth a bit for an even canopy. I'm not sure why this pisses people off. I've had a crop growing for the last 22 years, and I'm proud to say that I still learn new and helpful techniques all the time. Isn't that part of the fun of it all?

I don't know why people get pissed about it either, but it is one product I will not use in my garden. I don't like PGR's like that, and in the two grows (small sample size, take for what it's worth) that I've seen use it the buds were much leafier than without the Bushmaster, and trichome production was noticeably less. Maybe that was just luck of the draw, or poor use of the product, I don't know. That product just scares me.

 

[Unnk]

To put this to rest I finally got around to taking some pics to clear this topic up once and for all. Bushmaster works plain and simple. If you choose not to beleive your lying eyes so be it. I honestly havent used it for very long but the results were brutally clear. It virtually STOPS vertical growth as advertised. Some may want us to provide thousands of test subjects blah blah blah, but I think anyone with a brain cell atatched to their neck can see that it does in FACT work.

These plants are the same strain taken from the same mother plant. Switched 12/12 at the SAME exact height. Recieved the same nutes. Were in the same room. Same lighting. Couple are on the same tray even. I removed a couple of them from the tray for a few days while I ran the bushmaster in the system.

I used 1 ML per gallon with my nutes but back to 1000 PPM. Ran it for 4 days. Refilled res with fresh nutes and all plants went back on the same tray . Couple pics I had cut the plants down that were about a week further along so you can see me holding the plant. On those there was still a good 4-5 inches of stalk not shown so add a few more inches. I wrote down the height of the plants when I started BM. The first pic the plant stopped its stretch completely for atleast a week. It then only stretched another 4 inches total before it stopped on its own. Normally it would have doubled in size. Does the plant on the right yield more then the one on the left? Nope but now I can fit four plants in the same footprint which increases the yield dramatically and is how I choose to grow. I would have tossed this strain without Bushmaster. I have several other strains I did it on as well with the same results.



If you need to stop vertical growth or slow it down this product works wonders and a little goes a very long way.

FYI if I could take a picture that proved density and weight I'd do it for this manfacturers Gravity as well. The difference is just as clear on that product as well.

I did get a little leaf curl by the end of day 4. I beleive its because I had pretty strong nutes mixed in with it.

to the OP that plant looks better with the vertical growth ... that mutant to the right of it looks like someone took a hooker to a alley and beat it up

 

[OZUT]

that mutant to the right of it looks like someone took a hooker to a alley and beat it up

hahahahaha

 

[collective gardener]

I don't know why people get pissed about it either, but it is one product I will not use in my garden. I don't like PGR's like that, and in the two grows (small sample size, take for what it's worth) that I've seen use it the buds were much leafier than without the Bushmaster, and trichome production was noticeably less. Maybe that was just luck of the draw, or poor use of the product, I don't know. That product just scares me.

I haven't noticed any difference in bud developement with the Bush. But, I use it different that most people. I tend to use it in veg when I have a plant group getting a little tall. By the time they goes into bloom, the Bush has weared off, and the plant does it's early bloom stretch normally. Fortunately, as long as I get my timing right, I don't need to use it. It's just when I end up taking clones too early, or blooming plants take a little longer, that I fall back on the Bush. Hopefully, after a few more months in this new grow, we'll have the schedule nailed down. That will be about the time we bring in a new strain and start learning all over again. Damn I love my job.

 

[Cereall]

thanks for posting a side by side

I have never had a need for it but interesting to see results

Did you harvest both plants or still growing? would be interesting to see how much weight is lost with this usage

 

[dlively11]

FYI, here are some pics of my "snake oil" plants at a whopping 35 days into bloom. Over 10 strains and 75-80 plants on this tray as well. The original pictures side by side were simply meant for a comparison. Was one of the few strains I had true side by sides I could show that were still growing. Was one of my many great strains, just trying to show it halts vertical growth. These pics below will give a better idea of my "mutt" grow. Strains include C99, Hindu Kush, White Widow, Cherry AK 47, Bananna Kush, Agent Orange, Grapefruit, Bubblegum a couple Blue Dreams and Super skunks and Jack the Rippers. Plus a couple more I cant remember off the top of my head. Like I said every single one gets Top shelf status at ANY club so say what you will about quality. These plants will all yield over a OZ dried and cut, do the math , its going to yield pretty well for an experimental round =)

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[Wolverine97]

Looks good, that product just scares me too much to use. I know it does works though.

 

[ClamDigger]

lots of nutrient burn going on, also rooster claw caused by nutrient burn or Plant Moisture Stress (PMS). lol
lay off the nutes a little and it should clear up.

 

[dlively11]

lots of nutrient burn going on, also rooster claw caused by nutrient burn or Plant Moisture Stress (PMS). lol
lay off the nutes a little and it should clear up.

No real nute burn actually. The clawing you see in the larger pic is on one strain only and that one is C99. It got the claw when I hit the plants with Bushmaster the first week. They are still very plump and very very good quality. None of the other strains got that clawed leaf thing going. The only actual "burn" I can see from these photos is on the tray shot where there are some brown spots but that was from spraying the plants down with a foiler to keep mildew at bay. The single plant shot has the very very tips and one leaf closest is a little yellow but the buds and all the small bud leaves are 100%. I push my plants no doubt about it but I also get great results.

 

[dlively11]

Lively, Don't get me wrong...I know EXACTLY what you were showing. I just didn't care for some people showing a fuller plant and others calling both plants shitty, not even knowing what plant it was. The case for Bushmaster your pics presented was very convincing. Personally, I doubt that anyone who has actually used the product even needs to see evidence that it works. I'm not sure what the big argument is about. It's just another tool in the garden.

As far as the gentleman with the LST plants "9 times bushier", it may be true. I use LST extensively on plants that yield 1/2 lb+. BUT, I still keep a bottle of Bush for when it may help with the grow. I, unlike some others, am not perfect, and make mistakes and misscalculations in the garden. I've found the Bush helpful in recovering from something like taking cuttings a little early and needing to reduce my vertical growth a bit for an even canopy. I'm not sure why this pisses people off. I've had a crop growing for the last 22 years, and I'm proud to say that I still learn new and helpful techniques all the time. Isn't that part of the fun of it all?

Just wanted to say that I know what you meant I was just trying to clear it up for other people. I know you get it unlike a few others out there... Hell I dont even know if I am going to use it on a regular basis but its nice to have an option like this when a tray is getting too tall. I dont think running the stuff for a few days in the first couple weeks of bloom is going to leave anything harmful in the final product after another 6-7 weeks go by.

 

[hoagtech]

Wow it looks like some dumped cocaine on your buds. damn. Thats pretty flippin amazing.
Because of you I am ordering some bushmaster

 

[Uncle Ben]

Wow it looks like some dumped cocaine on your buds. damn. Thats pretty flippin amazing.
Because of you I am ordering some bushmaster

Me too!...

 

[dlively11]

Wow it looks like some dumped cocaine on your buds. damn. Thats pretty flippin amazing.
Because of you I am ordering some bushmaster

They wiull get a lot more frosty in the next few weeks too. Snow Storm Ultra works fantastic and is really cheap too. I tihnk I paid $80 for a gallon of it and you only need 2 ML per gal so it treats over 800 gal.

 

[hoagtech]

Its weird If you look on the back of purple maxx and ss ultra they both have the same amount of the exact same ingrediants. But people swear its worth the extra money for purple maxx because it turns green plants pink and purple. I like the SS ultra its at good price point like half the price of gravity

 

[dlively11]

Its weird If you look on the back of purple maxx and ss ultra they both have the same amount of the exact same ingrediants. But people swear its worth the extra money for purple maxx because it turns green plants pink and purple. I like the SS ultra its at good price point like half the price of gravity

Yeah I was told by numerous people that Snow Storm Ultra is basically Purple max and Snow Storm combined. I get really good purpls out of a lot of non purple strains using SS. You could always try the Purple max on a round and see if it makes a difference.

Key with Bushmaster is not to use it too long or too strong. I think some people run it a lot longer then you really should and it might mess up the quality in that case. I'll keep playing with it and get a feel for it before I give it my final verdict. So far I am very impressed with it as I am with Gravity and the Snow Storm Ultra. Those guys really make some good products for MJ and are priced fairly unlike a lot of prducts out there like Advanced Nutrients and such.

 

[Alex Kelly]

Well I guess that it all comes down to preference. Someone who is growing for the max quality, would probably not use the Bush. Ever. Others may use it, and gravity. To each his own. But using Snow Storm Ultra or Purple Max on non-purple strains? I really don't understand why you would do that. Maybe more money due to more bag appeal. I would rather stress them the last 2 weeks to make em purple. I wouldn't ever do either of them though.

 

[Wolverine97]

Yeah I was told by numerous people that Snow Storm Ultra is basically Purple max and Snow Storm combined. I get really good purpls out of a lot of non purple strains using SS. You could always try the Purple max on a round and see if it makes a difference.

Key with Bushmaster is not to use it too long or too strong. I think some people run it a lot longer then you really should and it might mess up the quality in that case. I'll keep playing with it and get a feel for it before I give it my final verdict. So far I am very impressed with it as I am with Gravity and the Snow Storm Ultra. Those guys really make some good products for MJ and are priced fairly unlike a lot of prducts out there like Advanced Nutrients and such.

It's actually the other way around. The new Purple Maxx contains the old Snow Storm Ultra product. They have reformulated.

 

[dlively11]

Well I guess that it all comes down to preference. Someone who is growing for the max quality, would probably not use the Bush. Ever. Others may use it, and gravity. To each his own. But using Snow Storm Ultra or Purple Max on non-purple strains? I really don't understand why you would do that. Maybe more money due to more bag appeal. I would rather stress them the last 2 weeks to make em purple. I wouldn't ever do either of them though.

All my grown strains get top shelf statis at any club so the quality is top notch. I have been smoking myself for the last 28 years and I can attest to the quality being as good as anything else out there even the finest clubs. Key is to use it prperly and not overuse it. Snow Storm adds lot of crystals and its cheap.


As for the Snow Storm Ultra it used to be just Snow Storm so I know for certain they added /changed its formula as well. Atleast that is what I was told by several shops and read in posts.

 

[Alex Kelly]

All my grown strains get top shelf statis at any club so the quality is top notch. I have been smoking myself for the last 28 years and I can attest to the quality being as good as anything else out there even the finest clubs. Key is to use it prperly and not overuse it. Snow Storm adds lot of crystals and its cheap.


As for the Snow Storm Ultra it used to be just Snow Storm so I know for certain they added /changed its formula as well. Atleast that is what I was told by several shops and read in posts.

OK nice, much respect. Like I said Bush and Gravity to each his own. But I strongly have to disagree with using a chemical to change your non-purple strains to purple. IMO that is not what growing cannabis is about.

 

[dlively11]

OK nice, much respect. Like I said Bush and Gravity to each his own. But I strongly have to disagree with using a chemical to change your non-purple strains to purple. IMO that is not what growing cannabis is about.

I hear what you are saying. Its not like they are putting dye into it or something crazy though. What it does is just enhance any strain that has any purple tendency at all. I have some strains that would turn just a tiny hugh of purple without it but with it it is more prnounced. Not super purple but just a bit more purple. Purple strains turn out a shade more purple and so on. Not drastic. The Trich production is dramatic on the plants however and that is the only reason I even use the stuff.