20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

[TheLastWood]

Yeah endlscycke has a nice ass.

Butg gardener I meant those laughganis would be perfect for screen of green. If you only let em get a foot or 16 inches tall and trained them under the screen, forcing them to grow out instead of up, they would cover way more than 1 sq ft. Everybody fims or tops for 4 main tops then trains under the screen but you would save time cuz you don't even have to top them they just grow like a bush already. You could get those plants to spread out over a 3x3 area each! With nothing but tops!

Just a syggestion b ut with the way those plants are I think it would be remarkable

 

[NorthernLights#5]

Yeah...but then there's the plant numbers thing. I'm going to try and bloom 20 of em about 3 feet tall. They don't get 1 inch taller in bloom. That's right. NO STRETCH. I would love to grow em about 1 foot tall, a plant every sq ft. But, I have 250 sq ft of bloom room to fill.

You may not believe it, but I cut off about 20 leaves from that plant. It's still bushy as hell. I worry abour powdery mildew on a plant like that.

seriously no Stretch???? hows that work out, I thought all plants stretched once into flower??? (again new to this so this may be a dumb question)

 

[patrickkawi37]

Here in Cali we have to be very careful about just growing anything. Right now, it's a Kush market. I can list 20 killer strains that would out yield my Bubbas 2 to1, but I could also find myself stacking up meds with nowhere to go. Any new strains preferably come from a grower I know and can test the finished product. Any new strains coming from seed must be grown and highgraded, and maybe I get one that will be good enough. That takes up plants numbers. Numbers I don't have. I may work in a new strain, but it's a long precess. I have big hopes for the Laughgani since we have a dispensary begging for it.

I am interested in the Ultimate, but haven't actually had some in my hand. I can't use plant numbers for any bud not top 1%. I may just order up some Ultimate, though. Thanks for reminding me it's out there.

get the ultimate... you wont regret it and it will sell. ya i hear you on the cali market. im from california as well. southern. seems like everyone wants the "OG" that is supposed to be so much better than everything else. there is a lot of dispensaries down here let me know if you need help getting rid of it

 

[buddhalover425]

nice room bro...mines is half of yours...i like your construction it seems clean! i hate messy grows

 

[Sr. Verde]

I'm running 62.5 watts/sq ft in veg

Hey man were running the same wattage that's sweet.... I'm learning so much from this thread about large number growing Something I wish to do in the future, yet is difficult to learn about.. That is why I love RIU so much GOOD.. REAL information shared in accurate terms. That is priceless in todays world..


I just started my Tangerine Dreams into flower, they're on day two now.. let me know if you want a journal link, but I'm sure your busy as hell!! so no worries on that

The smell is totally amazing though... Like actual tangerines with this sweet, sweet, tropical danky mandarin orange smell laid on top

 

[ENDLSCYCLE]

I spent so much time staring at your avatar that I felt compelled to reply. Bummer about the relocation. What are the prices like there?

That's a good question I wouldn't have an answer too......ummmmm.......aaahhhhhh.................I grow.........LOL....I do know a guy tho that deals some dank from kentucky round here....and he lets ozs go for 3.

 

[collective gardener]

Hey man were running the same wattage that's sweet.... I'm learning so much from this thread about large number growing Something I wish to do in the future, yet is difficult to learn about.. That is why I love RIU so much GOOD.. REAL information shared in accurate terms. That is priceless in todays world..


I just started my Tangerine Dreams into flower, they're on day two now.. let me know if you want a journal link, but I'm sure your busy as hell!! so no worries on that

The smell is totally amazing though... Like actual tangerines with this sweet, sweet, tropical danky mandarin orange smell laid on top

Shoot the link. I always have time to check out people's gear. That's strain I'm interested in, as well. Anyone growing any Casey Jones?

 

[collective gardener]

get the ultimate... you wont regret it and it will sell. ya i hear you on the cali market. im from california as well. southern. seems like everyone wants the "OG" that is supposed to be so much better than everything else. there is a lot of dispensaries down here let me know if you need help getting rid of it

I'll take that Ultimate for a ride. I can just pray for stability, cause I can only allocate a few plants to it until I've seen it all the way through. I'm setting up two more grows that may want to roll some into their stable, as well. I will need to hear quite a bit more than 1 person giving the Ultimate a thumbs up. Anyone out there messed with it???

 

[collective gardener]

Yeah endlscycke has a nice ass.

Butg gardener I meant those laughganis would be perfect for screen of green. If you only let em get a foot or 16 inches tall and trained them under the screen, forcing them to grow out instead of up, they would cover way more than 1 sq ft. Everybody fims or tops for 4 main tops then trains under the screen but you would save time cuz you don't even have to top them they just grow like a bush already. You could get those plants to spread out over a 3x3 area each! With nothing but tops!

Just a syggestion b ut with the way those plants are I think it would be remarkable

Oh, I hear ya. I've run SCROG many o times. When I want that result now, I do more of an LST thing. I don't like dealing with the fixed screen. I made one that was an individual screen attached to each pot, so you could roll the whole thing around. I just can't stand fixed plants. I topped a Laughgani and am bending her down and out as we speak.

What I'm really interested in is how well they will do grown to 5' or so and being lit with the bare vertical bulbs...or BAVERB, as I call it. The grows I'v seen lit in this manner are soooooo bad ass. I just have to take it for a ride. I've seen 1 - 2 lb plants grown this way. That kind of per/plant yield opens up alot of doors with a plant limit med op. You see where I'm going with this? All of a sudden 99 plants is MORE than enough.

I may...just for shits...build one of my screens attached to a 10 gallon pot and SCROG one of these girls. I probably would top it once to get a more even canopy. I think once is all it would take with this plant. I'm afraid without topping the main branch is so thick it may be hard to train down.

 

[collective gardener]

seriously no Stretch???? hows that work out, I thought all plants stretched once into flower??? (again new to this so this may be a dumb question)

I shit you not. The plant grows just the same speed as in veg for the first week or so of bloom, and then just stops. It just doesn't do the typical burst of vertical growth in early bloom that every single plant I have ever grown does. It's one of the most unique plants I've ever grown, and the quality is second to none. It was bred in Northern Cal (Mendicino), by a friend of a friend who's goal was simple: as purple and frosty as he could get. The plant was bred for outdoor growing, but does great inddors. The only drawback is that if you don't have at least 50 watts/sq ft, the plant will not do well, and if you don't thin it out a little it can get too bushy, choking light out and leading to powdery mildew.

 

[TheLastWood]

I know what you mean man I've never seen a plant like that before. You should do a solo screen with one just to see how far you can get it to spread out. But I totally here you on the huge plants I remember you talkin about that and bare bulbs in the very begining, it was one of the reasons I subd. If the quality is as good as you say then that's one of the best plants you could have. Ur friend did an awesome job. I'm truly impressed. Makes me wanna get into breeding.

I think it would be really really awesome if u did screen 1. Lst also but another advantage of the screen is you prune anything under the screen so no need for that much penetration. With a plant like that it would spread so far and since its super dense the airspace underneath will help a lot with mousture. If you top it or fim it like u said then screen, I can't even imagine what that thing will look like, I've never seen a plant more suited to scrog.

 

[collective gardener]

We installed 2 new 12" roof exhaust fans in the warehouse today. They set us back $400/fan, but are worth every penny. My temps are back at 75 F in both rooms. These fans are so powerful that regardless of how much hot air we pump into the warehouse from the lights, AC's, and exhaust fans, the main warehouse stays nice and cool.

Now we're ready to install the 3 or 4 ton ductless split AC, with the compressor inside the warehouse. Putting the compressor on the roof just attracts too much attention. We should have the new AC and CO2 system installed by the end of April. At that point, I think we can say that we're done building the grow room. What would have taken us 3 weeks with no plants, is taking us 3 months while trying to grow the crop AND finish the build. There may be a lesson here.

 

[incognegro999]

will having the compressor inside increase temps inside significantly? this may sound retarded but could you treat the compressor like a "grow room" like build it a room seal it with intake and exhaust? on the plus side took your advice about fan/scrubber. Temps are down 7 degrees to 79, and thats without the window in the vicinity of my intake being open.

 

[collective gardener]

will having the compressor inside increase temps inside significantly? this may sound retarded but could you treat the compressor like a "grow room" like build it a room seal it with intake and exhaust? on the plus side took your advice about fan/scrubber. Temps are down 7 degrees to 79, and thats without the window in the vicinity of my intake being open.

What I am considering is letting the compressor draw in air from its surroundings. Then, ducting the exhaust from the compressor up to an area near the exhaust fans in the roof. I may install a booster fan in this duct to provide negative pressure for the compressor to exhaust into. Either that, or place the compressor on the roof of the grow room near the exhaust ducting, and ducting up cool air from the warehouse floor to the inlet side of the compressor. I'm leaning towards option 1 to keep the compressor ina cooler area on the warehouse floor. Besides, getting that SOB up on the grow room roof will be quite the chore.

 

[incognegro999]

Scissor lift would be awesome for that, but not exactly stealth haha. does not sound like a pleasant task. option 1 definitly easiest on the back

 

[NorthernLights#5]

I shit you not. The plant grows just the same speed as in veg for the first week or so of bloom, and then just stops. It just doesn't do the typical burst of vertical growth in early bloom that every single plant I have ever grown does. It's one of the most unique plants I've ever grown, and the quality is second to none. It was bred in Northern Cal (Mendicino), by a friend of a friend who's goal was simple: as purple and frosty as he could get. The plant was bred for outdoor growing, but does great inddors. The only drawback is that if you don't have at least 50 watts/sq ft, the plant will not do well, and if you don't thin it out a little it can get too bushy, choking light out and leading to powdery mildew.

after searching tude cant seem to find your strain any direction on finding it? also since i already have the Magnum light right now my flower room is 9'x5' but i want to move it and i want to optimize my current equipment. and can now build any size room that would be best for said 1000w light. (if you dont want this here i can take it down just seen what you do and want to do the best i can with what i have)

 

[collective gardener]

after searching tude cant seem to find your strain any direction on finding it? also since i already have the Magnum light right now my flower room is 9'x5' but i want to move it and i want to optimize my current equipment. and can now build any size room that would be best for said 1000w light. (if you dont want this here i can take it down just seen what you do and want to do the best i can with what i have)

This strain is one of those clone only Cali legends. The only reason I have it is because I have some cool friends. It's not available in any seed bank, or as a clone. You could try breeding something like it yourself...I have the genetics...but the breeder spent a LONG time and thousands of plants to get this girl. It was not bred for seed sale, but for commercial growth by the breeder and a few of his friends. As I have said before: Lavender x Afgan x Purple Kush, back crossed with afgan. I don't know how many times it was back crossed. Probably just once, as the purple comes through very strong. I was given the plants with the understanding that no live plant would ever leave my grow room.

As far as your new room, All I can say is that I light up 20 sq ft with each 1000 watt light. With good reflective walls on all 4 sides, you may get away with a little bigger space, strain dependant.

 

[NorthernLights#5]

thanks!! 20sqft is what i planned when you said you have over 50watts a sq ft. and as for reflective walls is the panda film sufficient or should i go with light tight or mylar?

 

[collective gardener]

Those of you who read the post from the member who wanted to give me an inductive light to try will be glad to know that it's on the way. He's sending me a 90 watt inductive, an LED I believe a little bigger, and I'm going to buy a 250 watt HPS. I'll start a new thread to conduct a test between the three lights. The guy who sent me the inductive lights is a dealer, but is pretty confident in his product. I asked him if he wanted me to conduct the test in private, pending results...and he said no...post in real time! I like it! You guys know that I'm on no ones payroll. If these things suck, I'll say it. If they rock, I'll say it just as loud. Helper D is setting up a table with 3 - 18" x 18" bays, one for each light. Given the small size of the lights, we will just use one plant per light. We're going to veg the plants all under MH, and just do the test in bloom. We have 3 topped and LST'd Bubbas in 5 gallon pots about 1 foot tall and 18" in diameter ready to go for the test. The lights will be here Monday or Tue. Any input from you guys as far as testing parameters is welcome. Please, be heard now. We certainly don't want to hear all the reasons the test was flawed after the fact. I, above anyone, want a good solid test. If the results are good, we're going to try some more powerful inductive lights in the main grow. I'm hoping that this test will give all of us the information we need about these new lights. I'll let everyone here know when I create the new thread for the test.

 

[docrock]

Ooops, the inductive light will be a 50 watt, equivilant to a 90 watt led with 3 watt LED's