Wolverine97
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Nice, I like it. It would be ideal to setup a bucket with a condensate pump in it to send the waste water up to the storage tank, if you haven't already considered it. The type made for dehumidifiers would be perfect.
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Wolverine97
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Oh, guess I misunderstood. I thought you said you were draining it into a jerry can and dumping that into the tank. Didn't click that you meant the jerry can was for the garden. DERP
vdubb808
Active Member
Exactly, dry weight is all that matters. It just sounded like it was a lot at first, with my 1kw light. But after I did some simple math and totaled what my estimate is on my harvest and I should have more than 1 gram per watt. I hope......... I guess I will find out soon enough.
ExpiredLabel
Member
Since I know there are more ppl whom us different methods with coco medium I've decided to double post in the hopes of getting a broader opinion base..Hello fellow growers!! I'm a recent addition to this sites forum and in the little time I've joined I've accrued a wealth of information, so with that I would like to first thank anyone and everyone for throwing their two cents in the hopes of making a whole dollar..
now that we have pleasantries out of the way I was wondering if I could get some input from fellow growers who've been using the House and Garden Line of Nutes, specifically the coco line. I'm currently using FlorNova in conjunction with hydrozyme, kool bloom and a little notrozyme for those first 3-4 weeks of flower, a basic system thats water to waste with three 1000w HPS lights w/ 1000w lumatek ballasts. Now after growing for a few harvests and getting a good eye for detail I have seen that my system and methodology could use a step up.
In my new grow which when I move here within the coming months I plan to continue and start a journal. With my move and a chance to start over I plan to switch nutes systems and take it in a different direction. Firstly with a jupiter 2 linear light mover I will optimize my grow area, light distribution/penetration, and ultimately will be able to do more than three well sized plants per grow.
Next after looking around these forums I've decided that Coco seems to be a worthwhile endeavor and with some of these results I'm seeing I can't wait to get going already!!! This choice in Nutes has lead me here, upon looking at canna and H&G I see that at least with H&G I get more for my money. So now with some questions. I plan on using the tap from my next home keeping in mind it's relative to the quality of my water now and I was wondering if Tap water affected the system being I've read that it's more suited to be used w/RO.
Going into my approach I was wondering if anyone could offer some insight into balance for my approach which is as follows..
Royal Gold Coco with perlite mix about 60-40
H&G coco A/B
Foliar Bloom Inducer Week 1-2
Bud XL week 3-8
Bud Blood Week 3-4
coco wetting agent
Top Shooter week 5 for 4 days
Shooting Powder last two weeks in conjunction with a sunpulse 10k UVB bulb
Magic green when needed
Hydrozyme every other week except last two weeks
Not sure when to use multiZen any input??
Also was thinking about replacing bud blood with hydroplex any thoughts/experience?? Also do you guys feel Im missing anything in that lineup?? comments and suggestions appreciated!
Besides that I will be growing L.A confidential from DNA, Somango, and sensi star x Critical....can't wait till the day I find some pre 98 bubba!!
In my new grow which when I move here within the coming months I plan to continue and start a journal. With my move and a chance to start over I plan to switch nutes systems and take it in a different direction. Firstly with a jupiter 2 linear light mover I will optimize my grow area, light distribution/penetration, and ultimately will be able to do more than three well sized plants per grow.
Next after looking around these forums I've decided that Coco seems to be a worthwhile endeavor and with some of these results I'm seeing I can't wait to get going already!!! This choice in Nutes has lead me here, upon looking at canna and H&G I see that at least with H&G I get more for my money. So now with some questions. I plan on using the tap from my next home keeping in mind it's relative to the quality of my water now and I was wondering if Tap water affected the system being I've read that it's more suited to be used w/RO.
Going into my approach I was wondering if anyone could offer some insight into balance for my approach which is as follows..
Royal Gold Coco with perlite mix about 60-40
H&G coco A/B
Foliar Bloom Inducer Week 1-2
Bud XL week 3-8
Bud Blood Week 3-4
coco wetting agent
Top Shooter week 5 for 4 days
Shooting Powder last two weeks in conjunction with a sunpulse 10k UVB bulb
Magic green when needed
Hydrozyme every other week except last two weeks
Not sure when to use multiZen any input??
Also was thinking about replacing bud blood with hydroplex any thoughts/experience?? Also do you guys feel Im missing anything in that lineup?? comments and suggestions appreciated!
Besides that I will be growing L.A confidential from DNA, Somango, and sensi star x Critical....can't wait till the day I find some pre 98 bubba!!
Snow Crash
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Hello my fellow Coconauts!
Shameless plug for a thread dedicated to getting us a coco forum.
https://www.rollitup.org/make-your-requests/418839-we-ready-coco-forum.html
Show your support for the Coco Community! We talk a mean talk up in here. Let's take the good fight to the requests forum and get ourselves a bigger, better, shinier, home.
If you want a Coco forum then get up and make it happen. Post your support so we cannot be ignored any longer!
Shameless plug for a thread dedicated to getting us a coco forum.
https://www.rollitup.org/make-your-requests/418839-we-ready-coco-forum.html
Show your support for the Coco Community! We talk a mean talk up in here. Let's take the good fight to the requests forum and get ourselves a bigger, better, shinier, home.
If you want a Coco forum then get up and make it happen. Post your support so we cannot be ignored any longer!
Well my Tap water did have problems. Since switching to RO the improvement was immediate. I was not using spoonfulls of PH down anymore (infact just a tiny amount will change the PH of RO water alot so be careful), and I can flush the runoff PH down with much less water than before. I think RO water has the ability to dissolve and absorb the salts much better flushing them out because flushing with tap water virtualy took me forever and seemed to do nothing. I can now get the PH of the runoff to change much more easy with loads less water.
TBH though I have just been feeding at 5.8 and the plants are looking very nice deep green. The runoff in the older pots still measures 6.8 (without wasting nutes and RO water flushing) but the plants look very good so im holding off from flushing for now. I will just water with PH'd RO water every third watering to stop salts building up.
These are the Girls (fingers crossed) Im going to flip these during the next week. On the far rear left you can see the nicest looking Sour Kush, and on the far front left the Northern Light Blue which has really taken off. The last one in the left hand tray is White Widow x Big Bud. Im going to take clones from all of these plants for the next round. Hope they are Girls 
In the right hand tray these are all Sour Kush just one week younger than the rest. Scroggsy.
In the right hand tray these are all Sour Kush just one week younger than the rest. Scroggsy.
ChroniCDooM
Active Member
Hell yeah we want our own forum!
puffenuff
Well-Known Member
Yes, yes we do. Sifting through 2,000 plus replies to one large umbrella thread gets tedious when searching for specific info. A coco only forum will really help organize coco info more efficiently. Please RIU, hear our voices!
OK well I have been using RO water since last Thursday (5 days). The plants look really good now with lots of new green growth.
The runoff PH has come down by 0.5 so far. My older plants (subjected to more Tap water in the beginning) are now running off at 6.3. My slightly younger plants are running off at 6.0 (which have had less tap water abuse).
I have just watered to a good runoff (not flushing like mad) Putting probably 3 -4 litres of nutes/water per 6 litre Airpot.
I now plan to stick to a Feed...Feed...ph'd RO water regime (I avoid the word flush because Im literally just watering with it to a good bit of runoff). Just giving Ph'd RO water every third watering. This is with watering once per day at this stage.
Ill see how things pan out from here, but so far so good. I hope that this helps anybody who like me could not use their Hard tap water for coco growing. I use the Canna Coco pro+ medium and the Canna Coco nutes also if that helps.
I know there are some coco nutes out there specificly for hard water and I considered these but instead opted for an RO filter instead. I did this because I could not find any online info or genuine success stories for nutes such as Canadian Xpress Ultimate Coco, only marketing stuff about the organic fusion blah blah blah which just seemed like your typical American marketing ploy (the stuff isn't even from Canada lol). I just figured that the RO filter would Gaurantee consistant results,
cause less stress and besides the RO water is good for other things besides growing.
And heres another pic.Scroggsy.
The runoff PH has come down by 0.5 so far. My older plants (subjected to more Tap water in the beginning) are now running off at 6.3. My slightly younger plants are running off at 6.0 (which have had less tap water abuse).
I have just watered to a good runoff (not flushing like mad) Putting probably 3 -4 litres of nutes/water per 6 litre Airpot.
I now plan to stick to a Feed...Feed...ph'd RO water regime (I avoid the word flush because Im literally just watering with it to a good bit of runoff). Just giving Ph'd RO water every third watering. This is with watering once per day at this stage.
Ill see how things pan out from here, but so far so good. I hope that this helps anybody who like me could not use their Hard tap water for coco growing. I use the Canna Coco pro+ medium and the Canna Coco nutes also if that helps.
I know there are some coco nutes out there specificly for hard water and I considered these but instead opted for an RO filter instead. I did this because I could not find any online info or genuine success stories for nutes such as Canadian Xpress Ultimate Coco, only marketing stuff about the organic fusion blah blah blah which just seemed like your typical American marketing ploy (the stuff isn't even from Canada lol). I just figured that the RO filter would Gaurantee consistant results,
cause less stress and besides the RO water is good for other things besides growing.
And heres another pic.Scroggsy.
devilpit
Member
@expired....I dnt use ro at all and just let my tap water sit overnite to get rid of the chlorine then I check the ph which is usually 7.2...that being said I use all advanced nutrients and once I mix them I check the ph again and it i.e advanced nutrients takes it down to 6.3 them I add my ph down amd get it to 5.7....I can say that I've had excellent results with advanced and coco....I'm chopping my a.k this sunday and will let you know what my dry weight will be cuz the way it looks is I'm going to have one of the biggest crop off one plant than ever before...its just amazing since I switched to coco...not one problem from start to finish...i use...sensi grow part a an b..b 52...call/mag very important to use the call/mag...hygrozyme...mother earth tea....for bloom...sensi bloom a an b...b52...cal/mag ...big bud..bud candy..grandma enggys seaweed extract only use this twice....hygrozyme and the sixth week I use overdrive....its vital to use the CAL/MAG AT ALL STAGES of growth...I water every other days and at about the fourth week in flower I water every days cuz the root system is just huge so they juat suck that. shity up. Also you will need to go above recommended levels with the cal/mag ...I was using 3tsp per gallon and they love it...happy growing
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
You still need to supplement, trust me.
Snow Crash
Well-Known Member
The thing about Canna is it locks you into a 4.5% Calcium 1.2% Magnesium ratio. Nearly as much calcium as Nitrogen in the system, so there is plenty of that, but it lacks in Mag, especially during flowering.
I'm starting to dick around with the best Cal-Mag ratios and it is definitely better to use more Calcium earlier on. Later in flowering a Mag supplement is really helpful to getting things right. I have tried Cal-Mag, Huvega, Epsom Salt, and Sea Mag. Right now I am trying Bud Candy and next time I will try Flora Nectar. Of them all, I think Cal-Mag has worked the best when I reduce my Canna levels and supplement the slightest big of pk to balance the npk ratio back to where it should be after adding the 2-0-0 cal-mag.
The one reason I like cal-mag plus, more than others, is the iron is contains makes a HUGE difference even with tap water. For whatever reason Canna Coco A+B just doesn't have enough (if any) and the use of Cal-Mag plus keeps new growth green and lush and vigorous.
It you have the right tap, with a good deal of magnesium and iron already then no need to supplement. But if you run filtered water, have clean water, or just a bunch of calcium in your tap then over time you'll find that managing these cal-mag ratios, against NPK ratios, is the key when it comes to keeping the plants happy throughout life.
It is no joke that Canna Coco A+B and Cal-Mag Plus grow some seriously healthy plants in Veg. It is what happens in flowering that really proves that you need more than just those.
Honestly, I think systems like CNS 17 Coco/Soil Grow Bloom Ripe have much better Cal-Mag and NPK ratios for the given period of life and I'm trying to get more people to convert over to what I think is probably a better system for cannabis in coco than Canna is start to finish dollar for dollar.
I'm starting to dick around with the best Cal-Mag ratios and it is definitely better to use more Calcium earlier on. Later in flowering a Mag supplement is really helpful to getting things right. I have tried Cal-Mag, Huvega, Epsom Salt, and Sea Mag. Right now I am trying Bud Candy and next time I will try Flora Nectar. Of them all, I think Cal-Mag has worked the best when I reduce my Canna levels and supplement the slightest big of pk to balance the npk ratio back to where it should be after adding the 2-0-0 cal-mag.
The one reason I like cal-mag plus, more than others, is the iron is contains makes a HUGE difference even with tap water. For whatever reason Canna Coco A+B just doesn't have enough (if any) and the use of Cal-Mag plus keeps new growth green and lush and vigorous.
It you have the right tap, with a good deal of magnesium and iron already then no need to supplement. But if you run filtered water, have clean water, or just a bunch of calcium in your tap then over time you'll find that managing these cal-mag ratios, against NPK ratios, is the key when it comes to keeping the plants happy throughout life.
It is no joke that Canna Coco A+B and Cal-Mag Plus grow some seriously healthy plants in Veg. It is what happens in flowering that really proves that you need more than just those.
Honestly, I think systems like CNS 17 Coco/Soil Grow Bloom Ripe have much better Cal-Mag and NPK ratios for the given period of life and I'm trying to get more people to convert over to what I think is probably a better system for cannabis in coco than Canna is start to finish dollar for dollar.
nas2007
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Canna coco - which boost to use! pop in boys