Legalizing in 2012 : California Dreaming

[Ernst]

Legalizing in 2012 : California Dreaming
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By Ernst Berg

For those who fill their in boxes with daily alerts from search engines about California and Cannabis, you already know the proverbial bell has been stuck and the first round of the event is starting. But who are the "boxers" ?
What choices well we have?

The first thing I'd like to take a swing at and would love to knock out in the first round is the idea of "Cultivation."
Cultivation has more to do with preparing the soil than it does with growing cannabis.
When we see language that offers us "Cultivation rights" we are seeing an offer of not giving us full horticulture rights.
If we do not stand up and protest then the right to grow, breed, save seeds, share plants and share produce as private individuals will not be given since profits are in danger,

So is the first fight about rights for industry verses rights for the people? I say that is the first match up.

So who ever leads the way we need to be sure they know we will not sell our freedom.

Already it's just a Traffic Ticket fine for simple possession and it is possible by 2012 that getting caught growing a few plants will be a year in County Jail rather than three years in State Prison.
While not good it is better and can help us resist those who would keep true cannabis horticulture rights from us.

As it has been suggested we must have passion for 2012 and stick to our desire for no punishment for growing, consuming, breeding, seed saving, produce,plant seed sharing with friends.

So don't get fooled.. Billions of Dollars are at stake and Horticulture right for the people isn't a popular concept for those wanting to suppress domestic production.

I say HEY! It's for the people and by the people give us Horticulture or waste your money on an Initiative we don't want.


How do you feel about Horticulture verses Cultivation?
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[Charlie Ventura]

In a truly free country, it is none of government's business what the citizen smokes, ingests, or injects as long as the citizen doesn't violate the rights of another in the process.

What we need is a fully decriminalized plant WITHOUT the California Legislature taxing it.

 

[Ernst]

In a truly free country, it is none of government's business what the citizen smokes, ingests, or injects as long as the citizen doesn't violate the rights of another in the process.

What we need is a fully decriminalized plant WITHOUT the California Legislature taxing it.

Are you aware of the difference between Legalization and Decriminalization Charlie?
Why do you choose decriminalization over legalization?

 

[Charlie Ventura]

With me its just a matter of words Ernst. Did you read my post, or are you just trying to be an English professor? If its the latter, I'll try. to watch my spelling.

PS: Find the word "fully" in my post for a hint to my intent.

 

[Ernst]

With me its just a matter of words Ernst. Did you read my post, or are you just trying to be an English professor? If its the latter, I'll try. to watch my spelling.

PS: Find the word "fully" in my post for a hint to my intent.

Actually I am trying to improve my conduct in the forum.
You see I didn't understand the difference between decrim and legalization at first myself.

Decrim will roll back the punishments while keeping it a crime, especially where it comes to private people growing cannabis.
Legalization wipes out current laws against and installs laws for.

When it comes to production issues initiatives such as prop 19 II allowed private citizens to grow a plant or two if the land owner and the local ordnances allowed it.
So in essence if the Plantation owner lets you grow crops on his land and the local sheriff wasn't out to bust you under prop 19 II you might grow a pound in a area smaller than a child's splash pool.
Under Decrim some in the state of California will have cannabis freedom while others remain cannabis criminals.
Under Legalization each citizen in the whole State have the same cannabis rights equally no matter where they live in the State.

So yeah, there is a blurry line there and those in the Prop 19 II camp used the term Legalize for Decriminalize because they were trying to sell us a new form of cannabis prohibition. A form where business can push all the dope they can get their hands on and we the people have to fear our landlord who holds power of garden life or garden death over our heads each day.

So which is your side of that line Charlie?

 

[Charlie Ventura]

Well on this issue we're on the same page, Ernst. I am not in favor of the government getting its hand into the pie in the form of taxation. Marijuana is a weed. Marijuana belongs to whom ever wants it. Every law against it should be abolished in its entirety. Prop. 19 would have allowed a trade off; the Marijuana user/grower gets off the hook with the proviso that the government gets to tax the bejezzes out of it. Bah!

 

[Ernst]

Maybe I am confused. I sure have had to Hot Potato with the the pace of the Changes of this time-frame.
But, "Left foot, Right foot: Cannabis can be the domain of the people.

Think of it this way. It is being reintroduced into the set of liberties for all Americans in a legal way; since they can Vacation in California!? Yeah huh!

Beach Parties.. Vacation Rentals and all those real estate investments paying off..

But the Trade off is that the rights to crops be forever granted to the people of the Earth and all life that lives on it.

:: I dono.. I like the idea of the Dream Garden. I grow three or Four varieties I try and improve all my life and then gift them to the Family and the World.
I smoked them and I was okay so I pass it on.

My dreams are never of profits but of patterns of understanding. Call me Eccentric.

So then all we have to do is turn all of California into a pot party and we have something I guess;
I believe the people of my area are of the mindset "Not In My Neighbourhood."
So they are rather disjointed on the nature of the human condition across the state.
In Fact with about 600 legal jurisdictions in California, The Profit margin on pot control is immense if the money is flowing.

How do we plan a party to have California Dreaming?
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