StonedPony
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still doesnt answer my question WHAt happens if there is a total melt down..............does it blow up or what................
What Do You Think About The Radiation Situation In Japan?Is The Gov't Keeping Secrets
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PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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A " Nuclear Fuck up is Not good",,,,Anywhere it spreads....and take's thousnd's of years to go away...To me = Bad.....
iosh herman
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Well it pretty much just melts and creates super toxic steam, I'm sure there will be some explosions because of the fact that its hot as shit, but I'm not sure what happens if the rods are completly melted down and the shit hits the fan to damage the actual reactor...
Search google "Japan Nuclear Crisis" if you want some educated information...
Search google "Japan Nuclear Crisis" if you want some educated information...
racerboy71
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almost ready to live in????????? where on earth do you hear this news from?? how about this, i'll buy you a house over in chernboyl, and you take you and your family and go and live in it?? i'll even pay the taxes and whatever expenses' you may acrue while there, as i'm sure groceries for the two or so weeks you live wouldn't cost my but a couple of hundy..
ChubbySoap
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oh please....like anyone has had time to realize the Chernobyl sarcophagus has deteriorated to the point where a mere 5.0 earthquake (in a region rumored to have at least a 6.0+ every 100 years or so) can pretty much GUARANTEE the swiss cheese that passes for concrete will simply crumble to dust a release another horrid cloud of doom...
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racerboy71
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What Happens During a Nuclear Meltdown?
Not what's happening in Japan.
BY JOSHUA E. KEATING | MARCH 14, 2011
Technicians are scrambling to contain the damage after March 11's devastating earthquake and tsunami knocked out power at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Seawater is being flooded into the reactor core to prevent overheating, and radioactive gas is being periodically vented to prevent pressure from building up. But these are merely stopgap measures to prevent a full meltdown of the reactor core. How likely is it that this strategy will fail and Japan will face a total meltdown?
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At the moment, not very. It's an inexact term, but "meltdown" generally refers to the complete melting of a plant's nuclear fuel rods. These rods are about half an inch in diameter and 12 feet long and are surrounded by a zirconium covering called cladding. To prevent overheating, water is constantly circulated through the reactor. When the cooling system fails, the rods, made of a ceramic material, can melt. The melted nuclear material drips down and accumulates, possibly penetrating the core.
In the case of the Fukushima plant, it is believed that the top 2 to 3 feet of the rods were exposed after the power went out, causing them to overheat. The vessel containing the nuclear core has not been penetrated. Nuclear engineers prefer the term "partial melting" for events of this type.
The good news is that the plant is not currently operating, meaning that the fuel is only producing about 6 percent of the heat normally generated when it's up and running. During the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, the plant was still running during a power surge that essentially turned the plant's reactor core into a small nuclear bomb, pushing actual radioactive material -- as opposed to gas with trace radioactive elements -- out into the air.
The bad news is that without power, the plant's technicians can't resume the normal circulation of water through the core to cool down the rods.
The controlled venting of steam from the reactor -- while necessary to prevent overheating -- is also problematic. Inside the core, the steam reacts with the protective zirconium casing surrounding the rods, creating hydrogen. When this hydrogen is vented out and interacts with oxygen, it can cause explosions like those that occurred at the plant on March 12 and 14. The steam also contains cesium and iodine -- radioactive elements that are dangerous to human health. The level of radioactivity around the plant, while relatively modest, is still twice what the Japanese government considers safe. This venting process could potentially continue for several months.
he most severe instance of partial melting in history occurred at the Three Mile Island plant near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, in 1979. The melting was caused when a pump pushing water into the reactor core failed for unknown reasons. Nuclear specialists say that the melting at Fukushima Daiichi may release more radioactivity than that incident. However, a disaster on the scale of Chernobyl, which left hundreds of square miles uninhabitable for years, is believed to be nearly impossible because of improved containment facilities at modern nuclear plants.
Thanks to Mujid Kazimi, director of the Center for Advanced Nuclear Energy Systems at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and John Lee, professor of nuclear engineering and radiological sciences at the University of Michigan
just dug this up for you real quick with a google search stoned..
What Happens During a Nuclear Meltdown?
Not what's happening in Japan.
BY JOSHUA E. KEATING | MARCH 14, 2011
Technicians are scrambling to contain the damage after March 11's devastating earthquake and tsunami knocked out power at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Seawater is being flooded into the reactor core to prevent overheating, and radioactive gas is being periodically vented to prevent pressure from building up. But these are merely stopgap measures to prevent a full meltdown of the reactor core. How likely is it that this strategy will fail and Japan will face a total meltdown?
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At the moment, not very. It's an inexact term, but "meltdown" generally refers to the complete melting of a plant's nuclear fuel rods. These rods are about half an inch in diameter and 12 feet long and are surrounded by a zirconium covering called cladding. To prevent overheating, water is constantly circulated through the reactor. When the cooling system fails, the rods, made of a ceramic material, can melt. The melted nuclear material drips down and accumulates, possibly penetrating the core.
In the case of the Fukushima plant, it is believed that the top 2 to 3 feet of the rods were exposed after the power went out, causing them to overheat. The vessel containing the nuclear core has not been penetrated. Nuclear engineers prefer the term "partial melting" for events of this type.
The good news is that the plant is not currently operating, meaning that the fuel is only producing about 6 percent of the heat normally generated when it's up and running. During the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, the plant was still running during a power surge that essentially turned the plant's reactor core into a small nuclear bomb, pushing actual radioactive material -- as opposed to gas with trace radioactive elements -- out into the air.
The bad news is that without power, the plant's technicians can't resume the normal circulation of water through the core to cool down the rods.
The controlled venting of steam from the reactor -- while necessary to prevent overheating -- is also problematic. Inside the core, the steam reacts with the protective zirconium casing surrounding the rods, creating hydrogen. When this hydrogen is vented out and interacts with oxygen, it can cause explosions like those that occurred at the plant on March 12 and 14. The steam also contains cesium and iodine -- radioactive elements that are dangerous to human health. The level of radioactivity around the plant, while relatively modest, is still twice what the Japanese government considers safe. This venting process could potentially continue for several months.
he most severe instance of partial melting in history occurred at the Three Mile Island plant near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, in 1979. The melting was caused when a pump pushing water into the reactor core failed for unknown reasons. Nuclear specialists say that the melting at Fukushima Daiichi may release more radioactivity than that incident. However, a disaster on the scale of Chernobyl, which left hundreds of square miles uninhabitable for years, is believed to be nearly impossible because of improved containment facilities at modern nuclear plants.
Thanks to Mujid Kazimi, director of the Center for Advanced Nuclear Energy Systems at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and John Lee, professor of nuclear engineering and radiological sciences at the University of Michigan
just dug this up for you real quick with a google search stoned..
StonedPony
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TOKYO, March 28 (Reuters) - Following are main developments after a massive earthquake and tsunami devastated northeast Japan and crippled a nuclear power station, raising the risk of uncontrolled radiation.
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- Plutonium found in soil in five places at the Fukushima plant heightening alarm over a protracted battle to regain control of facility. Plant operator Tokyo Electric Company (TEPCO) says traces of plutonium found were of level not harmful to human health.
- On Monday, highly contaminated water found in concrete tunnels extending beyond one reactor after radiation hit 100,000 times over normal in water insider another.
- PM Kan says the situation at the nuclear power station required utmost vigilance. Workers resigned to a struggle of weeks or even months to re-start cooling systems vital to control the reactors and avert disaster.
- Environmental group Greenpeace says it has detected high levels of radiation outside the 20-km (12-mile) exclusion zone, but Japanese officials say levels away from the plant are not dangerous for humans.
- TEPCO is seeking help from French firms including Electricite de France SA and Areva SA (CEPFi.PA: Quote) to stabilise reactors at the Fukushima complex, some 240 km (150 miles) from Tokyo, Kyodo news agency reports.
- Experts say radiation in the Pacific will quickly dissipate and officials say levels away from the plant are not dangerous for humans.
Kyodo news agency, quoting a government source, says Prime Minister Naoto Kan's visit to the affected region the day after the disaster delayed TEPCO's response to the unfolding situation because of fears he could be exposed to radiation.
- Official death toll from earthquake and tsunami exceeds 10,804, according to national police. Total number of missing stands at 16,244. Nearly a quarter of a million people are living in shelters.
- Estimated cost of damage from the earthquake and tsunami to top $300 billion, making it the world's costliest natural disaster. The 1995 Kobe quake cost $100 billion while Hurricane Katrina caused $81 billion in damage.
(Tokyo bureau; Compiled by World Desk Asia)
(For the main story, click [ID:nL3E7ES0F3])
- Plutonium found in soil in five places at the Fukushima plant heightening alarm over a protracted battle to regain control of facility. Plant operator Tokyo Electric Company (TEPCO) says traces of plutonium found were of level not harmful to human health.
- On Monday, highly contaminated water found in concrete tunnels extending beyond one reactor after radiation hit 100,000 times over normal in water insider another.
- PM Kan says the situation at the nuclear power station required utmost vigilance. Workers resigned to a struggle of weeks or even months to re-start cooling systems vital to control the reactors and avert disaster.
- Environmental group Greenpeace says it has detected high levels of radiation outside the 20-km (12-mile) exclusion zone, but Japanese officials say levels away from the plant are not dangerous for humans.
- TEPCO is seeking help from French firms including Electricite de France SA and Areva SA (CEPFi.PA: Quote) to stabilise reactors at the Fukushima complex, some 240 km (150 miles) from Tokyo, Kyodo news agency reports.
- Experts say radiation in the Pacific will quickly dissipate and officials say levels away from the plant are not dangerous for humans.
Kyodo news agency, quoting a government source, says Prime Minister Naoto Kan's visit to the affected region the day after the disaster delayed TEPCO's response to the unfolding situation because of fears he could be exposed to radiation.
- Official death toll from earthquake and tsunami exceeds 10,804, according to national police. Total number of missing stands at 16,244. Nearly a quarter of a million people are living in shelters.
- Estimated cost of damage from the earthquake and tsunami to top $300 billion, making it the world's costliest natural disaster. The 1995 Kobe quake cost $100 billion while Hurricane Katrina caused $81 billion in damage.
(Tokyo bureau; Compiled by World Desk Asia)
iosh herman
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You must be ballin racerboy!...lol
sso
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lool, no, but the wildlife there seems to be thriving more or less, havent read anything about mutants or cancer dead animals.
though i cant say i have researched very thoroughly.
probably be some decades before people dare to live there again though, maybe 100 or more.
almost is a broad term lol,
StonedPony
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but nothin about WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS IF IT MELTSDOWN..............hole throuh the earth........everyone dies......or just a small area...........not one word can i find on what happens IF IT FUCKING MELTS DOWN......in any reactor..............thats the question........I know all aobut japan from news............been readin but not once do the explain what happpens IF MELTDOWN.............
iosh herman
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Thats because they don't want the public to know what can really happen if there is a meltdown...
beardo
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People real close might die everyone else has increased cancer and mutations and shit, getting less noticeable the further from reactors so close it might be real high here it might be increased %'s but it will effect everyone
beardo
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to StonedPony again
StonedPony
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WELL FUCK..........nobody can answer the fuckin question..........even wikipedia wont say......they just say garbly goop aobut protection not one word what really happens.............NOBODY FUCKING KNOWS I guess...........so meltdown is not a big issue at all.....its the radiation sprewing out as steam..........meltdown is just a fake word as far as I can tell............the rods melt and tahts it.......nothing no china syndrom nothing.............so there............fuck it wont ask another fucking question...........
StonedPony
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heheheheheehhehe
beardo
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The term Melt Down refers to what they got their in Japan, their shit blew up and ruptured and the radioactive rods are overheating and melting together in a reaction and releasing radiation....Its like a big engine you cant turn off running without oil or coolant but instead of seizing it releases radiation
StonedPony
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ok i dont know how to put this........ive googled my ass off and all they do is turn up japan................
SIMPLE FUKCIN QUESTION and google wont tell me
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS IF THERE IS A FULL MELTDOWN IN ANY FUCKIN REACTOR NOT JUST JAPAN
SIMPLE FUKCIN QUESTION and google wont tell me
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS IF THERE IS A FULL MELTDOWN IN ANY FUCKIN REACTOR NOT JUST JAPAN
iosh herman
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This shit is something out of a video game, the world is getting farther and farther into turmoil, the NATO just fronts to give a hoot, although all of em still go home to their big ass houses with their perfect families and shrug their shoulders...It only took all the troops from around the world 3 whole days to get to Japan, gimme a break
ChubbySoap
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it really depends on the design of the reactor really...part of why it's so hard to explain it all
reactor three...it uses a more toxic fuel blend than the rest. Plutonisum-239 has a half life of 24,000 year..they don't want that flying around for sure...but it is
reactor two has a steel jacket around the core who's primary duty is to contain a total meltdown of all the rods....problem is all the explosions probably cracked it letting the goop out
reactor four was down but all the fuel was being stored in a pool...once the water went...they caught on fire...multiple times...radiation everywhere
one and three had their buildings leveled during the hydrogen explosions...i'm sure the containment cores got a good denting there
several thousands to several tens of thousands of terabecquerels of Iodine-131 were spewed out at least
about 20% of the emissions from Chernobyl...Iodine-131 has a half-life of only 8 days, so not so bad...but you need iodine pills
they have been averaging 5,000 TBq of caesium-137 per day...Chernoby only put out a total of 85,000 TBq of Cesium-137
that stuff has a 30 year half life though...bad bad
luckily most of that fallout has blown out to to sea where it will be diffused to safe levels.
Iodine-134 has a half life of an hour or so...and that's the puddle of water that one worker stepped in everyone freaked out about...it's everywhere too
the Strontium-90 data is oddly obscure...i don't like that...shit's scary
worst case i can see at this point is some nutjob makes a beeline for an airport and flies a loaded 747 into the complex...then japan roasts.
maybe us too.
reactor three...it uses a more toxic fuel blend than the rest. Plutonisum-239 has a half life of 24,000 year..they don't want that flying around for sure...but it is
reactor two has a steel jacket around the core who's primary duty is to contain a total meltdown of all the rods....problem is all the explosions probably cracked it letting the goop out
reactor four was down but all the fuel was being stored in a pool...once the water went...they caught on fire...multiple times...radiation everywhere
one and three had their buildings leveled during the hydrogen explosions...i'm sure the containment cores got a good denting there
several thousands to several tens of thousands of terabecquerels of Iodine-131 were spewed out at least
about 20% of the emissions from Chernobyl...Iodine-131 has a half-life of only 8 days, so not so bad...but you need iodine pills
they have been averaging 5,000 TBq of caesium-137 per day...Chernoby only put out a total of 85,000 TBq of Cesium-137
that stuff has a 30 year half life though...bad bad
luckily most of that fallout has blown out to to sea where it will be diffused to safe levels.
Iodine-134 has a half life of an hour or so...and that's the puddle of water that one worker stepped in everyone freaked out about...it's everywhere too
the Strontium-90 data is oddly obscure...i don't like that...shit's scary
worst case i can see at this point is some nutjob makes a beeline for an airport and flies a loaded 747 into the complex...then japan roasts.
maybe us too.