Riddle me this Budman!

[dirtyho1968]

I had a girl that hermed out on me and pollinated my other girls. 3 weeks later I started seeing seed pods. I trashed them at week 4 and made hash. My question is, can i take a cut off the female that was pollinated by the herm and have it regenerate as a female like it was before it got pollinated? Or is it just a straight herm now? Has anyone ever done that? I'm gonna try it if no one has because i don't wanna lose this strain that I cannot get anymore.

 

[dirtyho1968]

Anyone??? C'mon you gurus. I gotta know!

 

[dudeface]

you could take a cutting of a plant that was pollinated, the plant pollinated does not change sex (sexual reproduction is very similar among plants and animals). This plant however could have residual amount of pollen on it (or that's what I would be thinking). Try making a nice weak solution of h2o2/ph'd water and spray the cutting very nicely. that plus 18+ hours of light should give you what you need.

 

[supersillybilly]

NEVER EVER CHOP A HERMIE. There is stuff called Dutch Master Reverse. As soon as you see balls, pick them off and treat with the Dutch and repeat 10 days later

 

[MomaPug]

NEVER EVER CHOP A HERMIE. There is stuff called Dutch Master Reverse. As soon as you see balls, pick them off and treat with the Dutch and repeat 10 days later

Early on you can get a hermie with balls, in that case maybe reverse would work....but I have used it according to directions as a preventative so I wouldn't know about balls. Can you fill me in on this? Isn't it too late for reverse to work after you already see male traits? Does it depend how far into the cycle you are? Wouldn't using it on a late morph with banana pistols be too late...and you would end up smoking the stuff?

What I do know about are late hermies, the kind that sport yellow banana pistols. So, the plant you want to save isn't the one that went morph? In that case, she was an innocent victim and it doesn't mean she will have any hermie traits...however, the seeds that may have come from her as a result of a hermie pollination probably would be prone to be hermies.

 

[dirtyho1968]

@ supersillybilly, I was introduced to the DM reverse after I chopped and used product in bubble bags. I was pissed, they were well into 2 weeks of flower and had a bunch of nice hairs. Then a week later I see a few emptied pollen sacks. I was like WTF? Trashed them instantly to try and salvage my other girls hoping it wasn't too late. A week to 2 later, they were all getting seed pods.

@ dudeface, I plan on using the DM reverse on the cuttings i took before introduce them to room with my other ladies in veg room.

Thanks guys!

 

[dirtyho1968]

@ momma pug. Don't plan on saving seeds from the innocent victim cause I figured they would have the traits/genes from the ones that hermed out. Just wanna try and regenerate the innocent victim and hope it stays female.

Thanks again!

 

[dirtyho1968]

BTW- I was told by a good breeder that they have to be in flower to be pollinated. So if pollen hits them while vegging, they should be fine, as long as i wash them off or use DM reverse. We'll see...

 

[supersillybilly]

Early on you can get a hermie with balls, in that case maybe reverse would work....but I have used it according to directions as a preventative so I wouldn't know about balls. Can you fill me in on this? Isn't it too late for reverse to work after you already see male traits? Does it depend how far into the cycle you are? Wouldn't using it on a late morph with banana pistols be too late...and you would end up smoking the stuff?

What I do know about are late hermies, the kind that sport yellow banana pistols. So, the plant you want to save isn't the one that went morph? In that case, she was an innocent victim and it doesn't mean she will have any hermie traits...however, the seeds that may have come from her as a result of a hermie pollination probably would be prone to be hermies.

Well the earlier you catch it the better. If balls have show, you can pick them off and pray none have burst. lol The dutch will prevent or really slow down anymore producing. I had trouble with a hermie once. It took alot of time but I was rewarded in the end. 7oz of Neville's Haze

Thats her/him in my avatar. lol

 

[supersillybilly]

As for smoking the stuff, its used on grapes and melons. So I would say its OK(I think).lol

 

[MomaPug]

Well the earlier you catch it the better. If balls have show, you can pick them off and pray none have burst. lol The dutch will prevent or really slow down anymore producing. I had trouble with a hermie once. It took alot of time but I was rewarded in the end. 7oz of Neville's Haze

Thats her/him in my avatar. lol

Nice save on the Neville's Haze!

I had a strain go hermie, I was sure it was cold stress, but to make sure I took the clones I held back and treated them with Reverse according to instructions by spraying before changing lights to 12/12 and then again 10 days into bloom....they came out fine.

I don't know in the long run if I stressed the first round, or if the reverse worked to prevent the second round from going hermie.....but I have never tried to use reverse during bloom, so I wasn't sure it would work on a plant that was shooting late banana pistols. And considering it's a treatment you spray onto the plant.....I didn't think it would be a good idea to be smoking the chemicals.

Guess I will have to do some more research. Wish I could find a cheaper product that gets the same results as I can't afford to pre-treat all my plants....the stuff is just too expensive.

 

[MomaPug]

@ momma pug. Don't plan on saving seeds from the innocent victim cause I figured they would have the traits/genes from the ones that hermed out. Just wanna try and regenerate the innocent victim and hope it stays female.

Thanks again!

Once she is back into veg, she will stop trying to bud and concentrate on getting back to business. Most plants look odd while going through this transition, commonly producing one blade fan leaves sticking out from the site of a small bud, or curly leaves...but a lady she is and always will be.

It takes time, but most plants will reveg. And no matter how much pollen is around a vegging plant, it won't make her bud unless she is in bud cycle. Also, instead of just regenerating your victim, try taking a clone or two...sometimes they can root and come back faster that the main plant. I tried that once, had it stuck in my head that you couldn't clone from a plant in bud...but that clone took off faster than most!

 

[dirtyho1968]

Totally agree. I am not trying to regenerate the whole girl that pollinated from the herm but instead took 4 cuts off of her side branches and am letting them root, then am putting them on 24/7 light until they start regenerating and they get back into veg mode. I've done this with a flowering girl before. Taken late cuts into 3rd week of flowering and it took a couple of months to regenerate. Stuck it in my backyard ground and in a few months it regenerated back into veg state and blew up! I used it to get many clones and have no probs. Just takes a bit of time for them to regenerate and they look odd at first. I liked to trim off all the bushy excess beginning growth and let the tops and bigger stems/leaves of the plant have a lot of the energy and it worked. Pruning the stuff at first so i didn't end up with a small bush with a shit load of small veg growth. Whew, it's bed time. Thanks. Cheers!

 

[dirtyho1968]

Totally makes sense, but I have since moved on and just don't want to deal with seeds from a herm likely gene. Gotta say, Dutch Master's "Reverse" really works though! I've seen it work on pollinated females (empty pollen sack) and as a pre- measure. Cheers!