Gotta love that string theory. A moment of perfect symmetry acting as a mirror to the alpha and the omega reflecting a single reverberating message.
My opening post was in reference to Christianity/Islam/Judaism. The very idea of all power and free will together do not mesh in my mind, and I was just making sure I wasn't missing anything. I tried to explain it to someone last week and they just didn't get what I was trying to point out. I wasn't questioning any of the religious texts but the very idea of God and how someone who is perfect could create something flawed or alternatively why he would purposely make something flawed and then seem upset it was flawed.
"is" that mediator.
You will get that a lot when disagreeing with MP.
I noticed.
Excuse me? Where was the condescension? I clearly explained my confusion with your associations about things that are not typically related. Your lack of elaboration and clarification of your thoughts should not be projected into blaming the listener. I have been quite fair and patient with you. If you want to accuse me of something, go for it, I'm quite capable of defending my viewpoints but don't put your thought in the form of a question then stop talking when you get a response you didn't expect.
CB, go fuckoff and defend your posts rather than continue to hurl insults.
I agree. We had no choice in the matter....that is not freewill. I prefer to believe that whoever put us here did so with the best intentions in mind and made us just the way they wanted to. It was totally in their hands, so how could it ever be our fault? We didn't create "evil". But for the life of me I cannot understand how any human being could possible take complete advantage of another human being and be ok with it. American Free Market Capitalism does it every single day. And the very ones that are disenfranchised because of it are the ones that defend it! Sorry, getting off on another subject. The fact that there are overweight people on one side of the planet, and on the other, those that are starving to death, speaks volumes as to where we are as a species. The human race has got to get to the point where we are not exploiting Mother Nature of Her resources for the profit of the few; but rather for the safegaurding, and nurturing of ALL Living Creatures.
What, you want to discuss this with someone that is impatient? I have been patient, patiently trying to piece together an understanding of your POV from the tidbits you toss to me. I've made more than a few requests with specific questions about how you are using certain words. As I said, you made connections that don't exist in the areas of biology I study and you seem reticent to elaborate. If you don't want to discuss it further, that's fine, but then say something. I attempted to see what you thought was condescension but didn't see anything, and you didn't mention specifics. I answered you honestly about still being confused and internet posters should always be warned from reading tone into words, one of the reason emoticons were developed. They say 60-70% or more of our communication with each other is non-verbal. When I say I was not being condescending, you should accept it until proven otherwise. I then didn't post again until you responded to another poster, completely ignoring my response to your condensation accusation. It seems to me that you rather start a fight than actually discuss this further.
You are one strange dude. Do you interact with people very often? Who the hell talks to people on a forum like this. You take yourself way too seriouse. Uh..... and if you didn't notice I was done with this conversation long ago.
I second that.
You said that God didn't know what we would do when he made us. If he didn't, then he isn't all knowing and thus isn't omniscient. That was the whole point in my post. I am not saying that is how it is for a fact, I was just trying to get an idea of what people believe in regards to this. Free will and an omniscient creator cannot really exist in a rational/logical universe. I really wanted to know if anyone had any insight into it. Evolution has little to nothing to do with the opening post.
My past tense referred to the events unfolding during the conflict in Heaven. Careful of that gnat. You might choke on it.
Well...... I think in order for us to exist here and now everything ( time, space, matter ) must exist exactly as it is. Any change to this and we cease to exist as we are now, so God cannot change or mettle with any of the variables otherwise he destroys his creation.