Hawaii Growers

SurfdOut

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Preach it Puna! My first job out of college was a high level intelligence position in the Air Force, had TS clearences coming out my ass...after 5 years of watching the CIA/NSA at work, I flushed everything down the drain and got strung out on surfing and drugs for a decade and a half.....
 

SurfdOut

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While I'm reminiscing, my grandfather was a nuclear engineer, who was also a very, very powerful man in the US government. Trusted with some of our strongest secrets, we had a talk one night back in the trailer over some beers after I got all my badges. Lets just say he was in Wright -Patterson AFB and Nevada and some of what he said my mind still can't wrap around.................think ET......
 

Bobotrank

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Oh, I fucking love where this is going. Wright Patterson is THE hub for ET shit.... everything from Roswell, which did happen, all the way til present day. . . although I'm not sure they store stuff there anymore lol. The truth about that stuff is fascinating tho... I'm a bit of an addict in that category, too, I 'spose...

Puna, I must say, though, that it's not just the Republicans. The Democrats, too. The whole god for fucking saken government is in on this bullshit. The only person that has actually said something note worthy lately is Jesse Ventura-- and he just speaks the truth. We're in dire need of a revolution in this country. We hardly honor our constitution upon which it was founded. Do you feel free? I fucking don't.

I'm going to cut myself off right there. I could rant for fucking hours about this shit. It makes me so mad-- almost as mad as the ignorant fucks that make up the majority of our population, bleating like sheep, and buying into the bullshit lies our government is now peddling on a major scale. Every time you watch the news your fed blatant propaganda.

:peace:
 

Sheckster

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While I'm reminiscing, my grandfather was a nuclear engineer, who was also a very, very powerful man in the US government. Trusted with some of our strongest secrets, we had a talk one night back in the trailer over some beers after I got all my badges. Lets just say he was in Wright -Patterson AFB and Nevada and some of what he said my mind still can't wrap around.................think ET......
Alcohol always helps pry information from close relatives :)..... apparently it is a common theme!!!
My Dad & his one brother worked for Hughes.... Dad developed the navigation systems for the SR71 Blackbird.... Uncle was on the team that developed the LASER....
Both are supposedly adapted from Alien technology.... Neither one would ever answer my questions.....
Another Uncle was based at Hill AFB and his job was to inspect all the Minuteman missle silos west of Utah.... He almost always avoided my questions,unless he was drunk...
Well we got drunk He told me that the Air Force is doing stuff that would make most people's heads spin... Told me not to believe the Government version of the Roswell story... He never did admit to seeing anything but I am confident he did!! He did tell me some interesting things about HAARP before he passed away recently...
Conspiracies are fun when you are high!!
 

pepperbelly

Active Member
I dunno what to do about my soil nutrients ....i mean i really like the Roswell stuff ...loaded with some man made vermiculite and fire proof perlite...but just cant seem to tagalong with the folks after burnin man.
area 51 nute is just to hard to come by ...really rare anymore ...anybody see any well lit freesbies round here ?...i need to hook up with some moon dust :)
 

SurfdOut

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Originally I was trained in Elint(Electronic Intel) but when I got to my first job(North Japan-91), I asked to be placed in the most challenging job they had open and was put into Search. I had to be able to identify everything from D/C to daylight. Thinking I was taking the world by the tail, I almost willingly got transfered into some compartments that I never would have been released from. HAARP scares the shit out of me...but there are other things that scare me more...

I arrived at that site as one of the best new analysts they had ever seen and left 4 years later a drunk, long haired, surf bum, picking the wild sativas on the hillside behind the site, crashing cars into homes, telling base commanders to fuck themselves, getting charged with missing a movement and fucking the head yakuzas of Hatchinohe's girlfriend, and other miscellaneous spreading of good cheer............surf was soooo good though......
 

SurfdOut

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That was back when Boone's Farm was .99 cents a bottle, so I'm pretty sure that had something to do with something...
 

Puna Bud

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did anybody else get to watch and enjoy seeing Nick Diaz throw bombs with Paul Daley? Pretty good Strikeforce Card if I say so myself.
 

Hawaiian kind

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ok so lets have a little soil discussion here for shit and giggles

What is the most important thing in soil?

Me I feel that Life is the most Important thing The soil Food web relies on life. The correct ratio of fungi to bacteria is present, and ratio of predator to prey is present, so soil pH, soil structure, and nutrient cycling occur at the rates and produce the right forms of nutrients for the plant. Nutrients in the soil are in the proper forms for the plant to take-up. It is one of the functions of a healthy foodweb to hold nutrients in non-leachable forms so they remain in soil, until the plant requires the nutrients, and then the plant "turns-on" the right biology to convert the nutrients into forms the plant can take-up (but which are typically very leachable). Dont over water Follow a watering schedule Feed water flush.


What makes the best base soil?

There are about five soils that most people say are the top

Fox Farm Ocean forest
Roots Organic Potting soil, 707, green fields
Bio Bizz all Mix
Sunshine #4
Pro Mix

I think these all are great but I think you can make everyone of these very easy. Now that we sell the amendments by the pound it cost about half and you know the amount you are putting in. I sell every one of the things that you would find in a bag of anyone of these soils and when mixed by you it will be more consistent and easyer to reproduce over and over again.



Do you feed a soil mix or just water

Consistency is the most important thing!! I follow a schedule of feed water flush when done every week the same way you will see a consistent grow. if you feed each week just keep it light and dont over water when your doing it only about 10-15% run off. watering days should include B-1 and Hormones maybe bush master or sea kelp Keep it light no run off. Flush days should include Sugar and leaching solutions water the shit out of your plants.


Ph whats this mean to soil?

Well to me it is life or death! consistent Ph makes plant nutrient uptake proper and eliminates problems. Best grows I have seen have been plants in good soil watered only with PH 6.0 water and quality food.

Some things I plan on soon are to have good Island soil ready for you at the shop to mix your self. I am working on a permit to have 100 yard of 3 kinds of top soil so you can make a bag of soil for about 10 bucks!! We have all The other stuff like meals, guanos and Amendments but now we are trying to get good clean soil locally!

See You All Soon
HK


 

Cooter@666

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ok so lets have a little soil discussion here for shit and giggles

What is the most important thing in soil?

Me I feel that Life is the most Important thing The soil Food web relies on life. The correct ratio of fungi to bacteria is present, and ratio of predator to prey is present, so soil pH, soil structure, and nutrient cycling occur at the rates and produce the right forms of nutrients for the plant. Nutrients in the soil are in the proper forms for the plant to take-up. It is one of the functions of a healthy foodweb to hold nutrients in non-leachable forms so they remain in soil, until the plant requires the nutrients, and then the plant "turns-on" the right biology to convert the nutrients into forms the plant can take-up (but which are typically very leachable). Dont over water Follow a watering schedule Feed water flush.


What makes the best base soil?

There are about five soils that most people say are the top

Fox Farm Ocean forest
Roots Organic Potting soil, 707, green fields
Bio Bizz all Mix
Sunshine #4
Pro Mix

I think these all are great but I think you can make everyone of these very easy. Now that we sell the amendments by the pound it cost about half and you know the amount you are putting in. I sell every one of the things that you would find in a bag of anyone of these soils and when mixed by you it will be more consistent and easyer to reproduce over and over again.



Do you feed a soil mix or just water

Consistency is the most important thing!! I follow a schedule of feed water flush when done every week the same way you will see a consistent grow. if you feed each week just keep it light and dont over water when your doing it only about 10-15% run off. watering days should include B-1 and Hormones maybe bush master or sea kelp Keep it light no run off. Flush days should include Sugar and leaching solutions water the shit out of your plants.


Ph whats this mean to soil?

Well to me it is life or death! consistent Ph makes plant nutrient uptake proper and eliminates problems. Best grows I have seen have been plants in good soil watered only with PH 6.0 water and quality food.

Some things I plan on soon are to have good Island soil ready for you at the shop to mix your self. I am working on a permit to have 100 yard of 3 kinds of top soil so you can make a bag of soil for about 10 bucks!! We have all The other stuff like meals, guanos and Amendments but now we are trying to get good clean soil locally!

See You All Soon
HK



For those of you who haven’t been over to green hands...you should. I was in there yesterday for the 1st time and I was completely blown away. The place is amazing!....and being able to purchase amendments by the pound is genius!
 

pepperbelly

Active Member

For those of you who haven’t been over to green hands...you should. I was in there yesterday for the 1st time and I was completely blown away. The place is amazing!....and being able to purchase amendments by the pound is genius!
i thought you were a regular coot ...like me lol ...best customer service on island ! Love that place.
 

Hawaiian kind

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Wow you guys that says a lot Mahalo

we just try to things that people like us need

Let us know if there is anything we can do better or have in stock for you

we are looking to bring in a few new things any suggestions

Aloha HK
 

anherbman

Active Member
Aloha Oahu ASA, From the Big Island. SB 1458 update

Aloha Big Island ASA members...

Sorry for the delay, but I did want to give you an update on SB 1458...it passed the House finance committee with amendments on Tuesday, 13-3-1 (the no votes were: Tokioka, Marumoto and Ward, with Coffman excused). The bill was given 48 hour notice on Thursday, so I think the vote in the full House is Tuesday.

I looked on line at SB 1458 SD 2 HD 3, and I really didn't see any major changes. Still only one island, still five year pilot program, etc. I did notice one major typo, they upped the fee for a temporary permit for out of state patients from $100 to $10,000...lol I will take another look to see what else is different between HD 2 and 3. It won't change the fact that the House version is not fair or workable (and, I'm being polite).

We did win this round of testimony, 48-24. The one-line "bad for the people of Hawaii" campaign did not appear this time. The up tick in "opposed" letters came from some patients, who were upset with the House version, and not even that happy with the original bill. I certainly understand that. But, the testimony was genuine, and as with the support letters, real patients were sharing their experiences and needs. We can only hope that our legislators actually take it into consideration. (So far, they're not showing much.)

In some ways, we are doing great with the type of testimony we are getting (including from a 94 year old Navy vet, a Canadian police officer and board member of LEAP, the Democratic Party of Hawaii in previous rounds, and many more). But, 8,000 patients in a tiny percent of the population to begin with, and getting less than 1% of them to testify means we have an up hill battle in being heard. The process is long and arduous, a real test of stamina. A very big "thank you" to all who have spent so much time in front of their keyboards.

Should the bill pass the House, it will go to committee to merge with the Senate version. I'm told there are several proposals being kicked around, but I don't have any specifics at the moment.

The bill is still alive, and changes can be made, which is a better situation than what is going on in Montana. Last week a bill to totally repeal the medical cannabis program (which was passed by 64% of voters in 2004) made it to the governor's desk, and a bill that would drastically reduce the number of patients (by about 90%) passed a Senate committee and is moving along. Major push back.

At present there are about 28,000 patients in Montana, or 3% of the population. If Hawaii had the same percentage, there would be 39,000 patients state-wide.

In other states: Two bills to decriminalize cannabis (possession of five ounces or less, and six plants or less) in Maine died in committee. As did a bill to tax, regulate and control cannabis in Washington state.

And, speaking of bills not progressing, I should update you on the other four bills that sailed through the Senate. SB 1460 to decriminalize, passed 24-0, and the other three were 24-0, 24-1 and 23-2. None of them even got a hearing in the House. That's right. None even got a hearing. Incredible. (Oh, but, of course, HB 1085, which would raise the fee for the medical cannabis permit, did move forward in the Senate and there is a full vote on Tuesday. The most recent version, SD 2, had a blank line for the amount (it had been $35)...we'll see what they fill in, and when.

So, I hope this wasn't "too much information", but I wanted to bring you up to date.

Thank you

Matt Rifkin
 
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