Nirvana told me to be careful but did I listen?? Of course not.. plant WAY too big..

carl.burnette

carl.burnette

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I started a HAZE plant from beans I got from Nirvana or actually the Sativa Seeds portion of the company? They said she'd get pretty big & to be careful growing it in a cabinet..

Anyways.. I planted the germinated seed Feb 1st in my cabinet & all hell has broken loose. I've broken tops off, I've LST'd, bent, tied down ect but I just cant control the bitch.

so, now I have this 4' high & probably 4' around plant that's been under 12/12 for 3 month now & no buds. Im just finishing up an idica I planted the same time & will harvest her in the next week so Hazel (as I call her) will have the box all to herself.

I;m going to try to turn the timer to 10/14 see if that ignites her to bud. I thought about transfering her to the outdoors but I dont really hav a place for her & besides, if I put her out May 24th (standard gardening time around here) by October she'll be probably 16' high.

Sigh.. what to do what to do..

Im in no hurry to harvest, got lots of bud ahead of me.. Maybe I should just let her go in the cabinet & see what happens...

These were taken 3 weeks ago I think. Notice the indica & how much mature it is. The Indica I have tucked under the left light as far over as I can & the other is about 3 times as bushy now as it is in the picture. I can't close the damn door without doing the Japan Morning Subway routine.. Shoving in leaves, branches & what ever else is hanging out..
 

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thexception

thexception

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I can't close the damn door without doing the Japan Morning Subway routine.. Shoving in leaves, branches & what ever else is hanging out..

this had me LMAO. I feel ur pain, I have a plant going right now I let get too tall & had to tie the main colas back, pulling them away from the top of my reflector. But nothing after 3 months, that's insane. Not familiar with the Haze, I wish u luck!
 
redeye75

redeye75

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A lil off subject, but all that power running through that power strip is not the best idea.... Looks dangerous to me...
 
Beansly

Beansly

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Certain phenotypes of Haze can take up to 16 weeks to finish flowering. That being said, it doesn't seem strange for little flower development at 3 months, but no buds at all? I dont belive that. how do you know it's a female. There has to be white hairs on it at least right? Pictures would be cool.
Either you have one of the long flowering phenos, or there's something wrong in the setup somewhere. Your sure they're getting 12 hours of uninterrupted darkness? What about light leaks? Are there any? Are your plants nutrient deficient in any way?
Sorry about the long wait man. I got a p.chunk thats probably gonna take longer than the rest of my girls to finish so I'm gonna stick her outside when the other ones finish so I can start another cycle. If you worried about them getting too tall outside, you could always do an outdoor SCroG.
It sounds ridiculous but it's effective.
Good luck, and good growing.
 
carl.burnette

carl.burnette

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Beansly said:
Certain phenotypes of Haze can take up to 16 weeks to finish flowering. That being said, it doesn't seem strange for little flower development at 3 months, but no buds at all? I dont belive that. how do you know it's a female. There has to be white hairs on it at least right? Pictures would be cool.
Either you have one of the long flowering phenos, or there's something wrong in the setup somewhere. Your sure they're getting 12 hours of uninterrupted darkness? What about light leaks? Are there any? Are your plants nutrient deficient in any way?
Sorry about the long wait man. I got a p.chunk thats probably gonna take longer than the rest of my girls to finish so I'm gonna stick her outside when the other ones finish so I can start another cycle. If you worried about them getting too tall outside, you could always do an outdoor SCroG.
It sounds ridiculous but it's effective.
Good luck, and good growing.
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I germinated the Haze & Bubbalicious at the same time. They both went into the soil on Feb 1st & they went on 12/12 Feb 14th or 21st. Can't remember exactly but I know they were both on the same timeline. No nuiet issues. I'm not Mr. Weed or anything but I can grow my own. Already made the mistakes in past grows in regards to nuiets & light leaks. Over watering ect. My last grow was great. The Bubbalicious is doing perfect all white & crystaly.

I can see some small pre-flowers starting near the bottom of the plant. I will take pictures tonight (assuming the kids goto bed) & post them. I know its off the wall taking this long but I have read that sometimes when growing Sativas indoors you need to kick start them with more dark than normal, that's why I was thinking the 10/14 instead of 12/12. I bought a packette of IGnightor from the local head shop & will try that as well. Im purchasing a house about 5 miles from my current home. We're renovating it totally over the next 4-6 months while we stay in our current home & there are MILES of fields in behind it so I may have a place I can plant her.

Redeye: Thanks for the danger comment. Always nice when people notice things like that & comment. Sometimes things get overrun with wires which don't seem like much until you add it all together. Kinda like a horder.. one piece at a time until the house is full. The lights Im using are 150 watt HPS. There are 2 of them. An exhaust fan & 4 shop fixtures. I'm running about 12 amps through that power bar (rated for 15 amps) so although it looks a little messy (should buy some tie downs) its safe. Its just the physical size of the plugs I put on the lights,they don't allow me to plug them in beside each other. I was planning on rebuilding the grow box after this grow so I'll make it a little neater. I purchased a new power bar with built in electronic timers & what not which I will use once I rebuild the magic box :).

I'll try to get those pictures taken tonight, try some nice close up Macro photos of both the Bubbalicious & the Haze.
 
Beansly

Beansly

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I didn't mean to sound condesending, but you were surprised by the long flowering time. If you knew you were doing everyting right, and you knew you were gtowing a sativa, then how come you didn't know it would take loner???
 
carl.burnette

carl.burnette

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No worries Beansly. I didn't take it condescending. I liked the fact that you pointed out a possible issue with my grow. Im not a total noob, but I still LOVE advise. Even the basics sometimes can be missed :) I can grow buds but I'm not an engineer or designer so I like the input.

I was aware that the sativa would take longer, just didn't think it would be THIS long. When I purchased the seeds I think it said that the Bubbalicious was an 8 week strain & the haze was 12 weeks (I think) so I thought the Haze would be a month or so behind. Now I don't take those week ratings as gospel.. I assume they're about 2-4 weeks off to really let the buds shine.

I just came back from the local head shop & bought myself a new charcoal filter for the sinky Bubbalicious. The gentleman there suggested a product that stopped the plants from stretching? I don;t think I have a stretching problem though, but its supposed to keep the plants short & squat instead of busting the roof off the box. Wish I would have used that from the start on her. Anyone have any experience with the anti-stretching nueits? Would liek som einput before coughing up the coin. Just spent $100 on a new filter for the stinky Bubbalicious as it is.
 
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Dirty Harry

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redeye75 said:
A lil off subject, but all that power running through that power strip is not the best idea.... Looks dangerous to me...
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I agree. It looks like your in the USA from the looks of the plugs. The cheaper strips that do not have their own build in breaker are only meant for 15 or less amps. If on a higher amp circuit the internal wires and metal in the outlets will start to head up until things start to melt, then short out, then FIRE.
NEVER daisy chain strips together either.
I do a room, not a closet so I got some 30 amp electrical wire, some outlet boxes and outlets and made my own power panel. My lights use an industrial sign timer like gas stations use to turn on outside lights.
IMHO, I would be more worried about your electric setup more than the plants...again just IMHO. BE SAFE!
 
carl.burnette

carl.burnette

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I totally agree with the daisy chain thing. You'll see an extra plug adapter on the strip but that's just because as I mentioned the plug ends I put on are too large & I can't plug the 2 lights in beside each other in the strip. The 4 lights are 32 watts each, the fan is 2 amps & the lights are 4 amps each. No more than 6 items plugged in. Only 3 of the shop lights are plugged in & actually the yellow plug isn't plugged in anymore either. That was a bathroom exhaust fan I was using while vegging.

I will take a closer look tonight & make sure Im not overloading anything. I still think I'm safe, the bar's rated for 15 amps & there is a breaker on it (ON the side you cant see in the pic) but better safe than sorry.

Im a homebuilder & I'm currently renovating a house. I'm building in all the groundworks for an awesome personal grow room. Going to run 2-4" vents out the roof similar to the stink pipe off the waste system as well as a 60 amp pony panel so I will have no issues growing 2-4 plants with room for backups & maybe expansion in the future. Try 2 3 or 4 different strains at once instead of the 1-2 I'm limited with now (due to size of grow cabinet).

I don't sell or anything. Just personal use so I should have no issues & not looking to grow for the masses.
 
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bdonson

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I hear you. I found some old Traveling Thai beans I bought a few years ago. Got 5 of them to germ. After UB's topping technique the newly empowered shoots shot skyward hence lst. After wrapping the unruly shoots in a circular pattern I waited for the damn things to show sex. Finally after more than 2 months I was down to 2 girls under 2 400w hps in a 10' x 10' x 7'6" high room. The lights are almost as high as they can go and I am still tying them down with Probably 7-8 weeks left to go. Fun stuff. I believe that they may have been 8'-9' or maybe even 10' tall by now without topping and tying.
 
bonjo78

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hey carl nice to see u progress overall , Have she ended stretching ? , for a haze its pretty small tho ,keep her tied down things look better than u described it , how is she a month later ?
 
carl.burnette

carl.burnette

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She finally started to bud middle of April. That's germinated Feb 1st. on 12/12 Feb 14. Changed her over to 10/14 a few weeks ago & FINALLY got some buds growing. I cut about 4' off the length of some of the stalks. 3 month under 12/12 10/14 before signs of buds.. laugh.

Neuts have been FLoro nova Bloom, Molassas & sub-ignitor mixes 1/4 teason to a gallon of water.

If I manage to keep her going till harvest, I should have quite a haul for my little cabinet. She takes up the whole thing. I've cropped, lst, broke branches, thinned out the foliage etc. Just to keep her managable.

Im anxious to see what the final product will be like. I was prepped to give up on her but now Its like a challange :)

Really need to get some pics up. PRoblem is when the lights are on, the kids are home. Im home now with no kids but I dont want to open up the cabinet & let light in.

WIll see what I can do.

ps. The Nirvana Bubbalicious I put in the same time as this one is harvested, dried & being smoked :) Another steller preformer. BEst Indica I've ever had. Cant wait to see what the Sativa is like.

Peace out :) (Wow.. that makes me sound like one of those young Wigger types..) :)
 
MasterS

MasterS

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I don't understand how planted Feb 1st is 3 months of flowering at April 14th... Especially when it went into flowering at day 14 or 21. Making it 7-8 weeks of flowering which is still absurdly long before it showed buds so something must be wrong with the information/dates/this entire thread.
 
carl.burnette

carl.burnette

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Update.

She's still growing.

Germinated Feb 1st. 12/12 on feb 14. 11/13 2 months later. finally buds showed. In cabinet 2'X4'X4'. carbon filer exhaust fan keeps temps low 80's when lights on & low 70's when lights off. feeding her mollasas, floro nova (the one for flowering.. purple bottle I think) & 1/4 tsp of Shooting powder. I thought it was called Bud ignitor. so there may be mistakes in my past posts.

Look at it now, I suspect there is abuot a month left to go. maybe 2.

Got buds now though. Starting to see crystals under the microscope. This is June 20th & they were germinated on Feb 1st. I put the timer on 12/12 that didnt work. I then went to 11/13 now 10/14 & she seems to like that. The stalk is all twisted around trying to control the height. The large buds (seem like 5"-9" groups that seem to becoming ones) are all growing above my 150 watt HPS lights & are growing up into the floro tubes at the top. I've tied them up, staked them etc.
Seriously, this grow is fucked. I was going to chop her but now its just a challenge.

As mentioned before, the cabinets in my house & so are the kids. Hard to get a picture because the lights are one when everyones home.

This is not a bull shit thread. It does seem to be taking for ever for this stuff to grow. I think I really stunted her when I started cutting off parts to keep it fitting in the cabinet.

I think after this I will stick with my Bubbalicious. The one I started the same day as this has been jarred & smoked for over 2 months now. I don't know weights (no scales or anything) but I got 3 500 mm jars stuffed full of her. Everyone LOVES the bubbalicious. Few people told me best they ever had. Which is a nice compliment for me :)

When & IF I ever get this bitch to finish, I think there will be more except the buds are not where near as dense on this one.

Anyways.. I will try to get some pics to night & post them tomorrow. This is taking a very long time. Just curious. How long does a pure sativa generally take? This is indoors of course.
 
carl.burnette

carl.burnette

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That's 16 weeks from when the lights get changed? So assuming I stunted them when I cut them up, I could still be ok on this then.

I started them on 12/12 feb 14 so 16 weeks gets me to where I am now (give or take) I figure I have a month to go, MAYBE 2.

Must have really hurt her damn it. I"M SORRY BABY!!! Daddy will never hurt you again. (lying bastard... Im going to kill you & smoke your body!!) LOL

I suppose that reads a little creepy :(
 
kmksrh21

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Yea... Sativas can finish as early as 10 weeks after flowering begins up to 16 weeks after... 12 is most common though :bigjoint:

It's ok I did the same thing to one of my plants, stunted the fuck out of it, it's a indica plant on day 71 of flower now and no where near ready for harvest

Live and learn... then hit a bongsmilie
 
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