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gottit14
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pictures tell a 1000 words and i use chemicals and plan on flushing the last week just incase i dont see how it could hurt seeing as though ur still gna give it water and ur just gna cut it down anyways so whats the big deal to just give it reg water for the last week. Why would u wanna take all that time to grow nice shit and take a chance not to do something that could make it taste better. im not argueing just saying whats the since of risking all that hard work when giving them chemicals till the end isnt gna do much more anyways so get nothing or get possibly better tasting and less harsh nugs not really much of an argument now. But on the other hand guys 50 years of experience should def be able to grow nugs the size of mtns. I have like 10 yrs of experience growing and i am doing ok and i learn more everyday. also everyone should have an open mind bcuz the world finds out more and more everyday hat we were wrong about something so even if u been around a 100 yrs its possible ur not use to new techniques and u still use old school techniques, there is so many sides to things.
riddleme
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More info here, you should prolly read it too???
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/409622-truth-about-flushing.html
deprave
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Look at what happens if you have a plant in hydroponics with a dramatically wrong ph, the whole plant will die eventually but the buds stay green and lush in its dieing days, all the sugars go in to the buds which are the last to die, think about that. maybe its just me but it seems like flushing in a sense achieves the opposite results in hydro especially, meaning that there is more sugars in the buds themselves and I think this could be what gives off a perceived enhanced flavor but at the same time I believe it could lead to an overall lesser quality product. So it is my theory that flushing actually increases the chemicals in your buds for better or for worse, notice among the pro-flusher crowd they will cite something like "it takes XX days for the chemicals to get out of the plant" - well the number they cite is usually astonishingly low, the truth is it takes 30+ days in soil/soiless just to clear the medium let alone the plant.
Murfy
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sweet-
great minds think alike. i have been researching along these lines and have a sort of discussion;My Substitute Reality.
regardless of flush, there are sugars. so, waht to do then. i believe as some others do, that fermenting these sugars into alcohol and evaporating, leaves the terpenes, and flavinoids, in top notch condition.
there is a mechanism by which, as some alcohol ages, so does its complexity. i am researching and trying to proof up an experiment where i can suspend these alcohols in the bud for an extended period of time, resulting in more mature flavor palette, and antioxidant qualities.
great minds think alike. i have been researching along these lines and have a sort of discussion;My Substitute Reality.
regardless of flush, there are sugars. so, waht to do then. i believe as some others do, that fermenting these sugars into alcohol and evaporating, leaves the terpenes, and flavinoids, in top notch condition.
there is a mechanism by which, as some alcohol ages, so does its complexity. i am researching and trying to proof up an experiment where i can suspend these alcohols in the bud for an extended period of time, resulting in more mature flavor palette, and antioxidant qualities.
DrFever
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IMO when a persons plants are in veg for 5 weeks plus and depending on the amount of nutes added during this time frame, you will in most cases have a salt build up in your medium , and run into issues 2 nd - 3 rd week into flowering when all hell break lose 
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I have done a side by side grow using same nutes averaging around 1800 ppm in my last 2 weeks in flowering, But on one grow on my last 2 weeks i started adding some honey in with my nutes and on very last watering only add ph'd water and honey and flush useing approx 200 gallons of water ran lights 10,000 watts for another 5 days and lights out for 72 hrs
my side grow kept adding nutes didnt flush same thing shut lights off for 72 hrs
chopped dryed and cured
End result : when opening bags i found the ones i didnt flush had a stronger smell could it of bin the chemicals may be
the other bag that i flushed had a sweet aroma fruity and really smelled great
)I have done a side by side grow using same nutes averaging around 1800 ppm in my last 2 weeks in flowering, But on one grow on my last 2 weeks i started adding some honey in with my nutes and on very last watering only add ph'd water and honey and flush useing approx 200 gallons of water ran lights 10,000 watts for another 5 days and lights out for 72 hrs
my side grow kept adding nutes didnt flush same thing shut lights off for 72 hrs
chopped dryed and cured
End result : when opening bags i found the ones i didnt flush had a stronger smell could it of bin the chemicals may be
the other bag that i flushed had a sweet aroma fruity and really smelled great
Alexander Supertramp
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You are full of shit. Flushing in the garden and fields! BAHAHAHAHA!
DonAlejandroVega
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1.) 1000 lb. pumpkins are usually grown organically, actually. its mycorhizals, and pruning, that create these monsters.
2.)the residue from super-phosphate fertilizers you refer to, doesn't make it into the plant; that's why its residual, and why fields become salty.
I don't discuss "flushing;" its beneath me
but yer talkin' through yer hat........
Uncle Ben
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There are many myths amongst cannabis growers. They are ALL predicated on the fact that the gardener who embraces them does not have the facts, does not understand plant processes.
The practice of flushing is one of those myths.
Folks who have joing the Uncle Ben camp of gardening finally realized that for the best plant health, yields, taste, etc., you keep the leaves healthy and green until harvest.
UB
The practice of flushing is one of those myths.
Folks who have joing the Uncle Ben camp of gardening finally realized that for the best plant health, yields, taste, etc., you keep the leaves healthy and green until harvest.
UB
Uncle Ben
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They grow that way because of chemicals received, genetics aside.
Uncle Ben
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Yes, it's called a good rain.
Alexander Supertramp
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You know what I meant smartass! lol
Uncle Ben
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Couldn't resist hehe.......
Cobnobuler
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Congratulations ! You've managed to invoke the most hotly debated topic on RIU without having it reduced to a playground argument ( so far )
DonAlejandroVega
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no......they get big because all the other fruit are taken off, regardless of how they are fed. I've grown them. once the vine is about 10' long, you prune off all fruit except the gourd you've chosen, and cover it with netting.
Uncle Ben
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You're right. Any time you remove fruit from a plant the remaining fruit will be bigger with better market appeal. I'm in peach country and growers thin at least 40% of pea size peaches off their trees.
polo the don
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I did a side by side test with sister clones. I had 3 long time smoker friends and myself smoke both the flushed and unflushed buds and none of us noticed a difference in taste. The differences between them from a growers point of view was alot but nothing to do with taste.
The flushed plants yielded less. Pretty simple stuff here, take away what they need when they need it and they stop progressing. The unflushed plants continued to swell while the flushed ones just seemed to stop swelling and started "dying" for lack of a better word.
To me flushing goes against the logic of growing plants, any plants,not just MJ.
The flushed plants yielded less. Pretty simple stuff here, take away what they need when they need it and they stop progressing. The unflushed plants continued to swell while the flushed ones just seemed to stop swelling and started "dying" for lack of a better word.
To me flushing goes against the logic of growing plants, any plants,not just MJ.