DesertSativa
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I just went home for lunch and checked on the plants and guess what? One of my inline fans fell on a plant! Luckily there was no damage and I rectified the problem so it won't happen again.
BF. Tangerine Dream, DNA Chocolope, Magus Exile and Free Beans has Begun
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thegrouch34
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No way. What's with these Damn fans? I put like a 4" screw through the stud. It should be good now. How did you resolve the problem?
thegrouch34
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Xebeche. Thanks for all the info man. You have been a big help through out the first portion of this grow. I have never cloned before and am a little worried about it. I'm going to take 1 from each plant and then sex the clones in flower. Do you know of a cloning guide on here? I'm going to need it. I'll pick up my clone stuff sometime this weekend and probably get started on the cloning process soon.
DesertSativa
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Shoe laces. Originally the Ducting was the only thing holding them up so the ducting ripped. I took a couple shoe laces and suspended the inline fans from the roof of the tent. Now there is no weight stress on the flexible ducting.
thegrouch34
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Ah smart move. Yeah hopefully we wont have this problem again. Im going to go to the hydro store this weekend and get my supplies for cloning. Im going to take one of each of my plants so i can sex them.
thegrouch34
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Sweet. In like 24 hours that plant is completely back to normal with no extra care. Take a look at the pic.
Have to pick up all my cloning products and need to start cloning so i can get them on 12/12
Have to pick up all my cloning products and need to start cloning so i can get them on 12/12
DesertSativa
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Looks good. Amazing how they recover.
thegrouch34
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Yeah seriously. "Weed" right?
xebeche
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If you do an "advanced search" here on riu for "cloning + guide" you'll get this: https://www.rollitup.org/search.php?searchid=13822518
I'm sure you'll find some useful info there.
The cloning thread I found most informative (and it describes using Rapid Rooter plugs...which is what I've found to be the easiest and most effective way) is this one by Subcool: https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/50073-cloning-subcool-redundant-explanation-pictures.html
thegrouch34
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Damn XE I saw your post after i had already done the clones. Here are some pics of the clones as well as a video of my room.
I just flipped to 12/12 after i took the clones. I will have some good updates soon.
14 clones. I took them from the ones that shoed sex or the ones that i was hoping would be female. I markedmy buckets with numbers from 1-10 and then marked the tray from 1-10 so i can keep track of what one is what.
Not the best pic but it shows how much humidity the dome creates.
I just flipped to 12/12 after i took the clones. I will have some good updates soon.
14 clones. I took them from the ones that shoed sex or the ones that i was hoping would be female. I markedmy buckets with numbers from 1-10 and then marked the tray from 1-10 so i can keep track of what one is what.
Not the best pic but it shows how much humidity the dome creates.
xebeche
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Cool video, grouch. Looks like a great setup.
I see that you went with rockwool cubes for cloning. I've used them in the past, with fairly good success. I think the trick with using them is to not oversoak them...they have the potential to hold too much water, which can rot the stems before rooting takes place. Also, try not to squeeze them to "wring" out excess water, since the structure of the material can change when they're squeezed. You need air to be able to get into the (moist) cube in order for roots to form and grow, and squeezing them can cause the "pores" within the structure to get closed down. This why I switched to rapid rooter plugs...they're more spongy and resilient, so even if you squeeze them they tend to pop back to their original form (allowing air to get in very easily). In contrast, if you squeeze rockwool cubes too firmly, you'll see that they tend to remain "compressed" rather than reverting to their original form.
I don't mean to imply that rockwool cubes won't work...they certainly will, and lots of folks use them successfully. Odds are you'll get some (maybe all) of your cuttings to root. I'm just sayin that, in my experience, the rapid rooters are easier to use and I've had 100% success rate so far using 'em. I've tried significantly more times with rockwool over the years, but my success rate has probably been in the 80-90% range.
I see that you went with rockwool cubes for cloning. I've used them in the past, with fairly good success. I think the trick with using them is to not oversoak them...they have the potential to hold too much water, which can rot the stems before rooting takes place. Also, try not to squeeze them to "wring" out excess water, since the structure of the material can change when they're squeezed. You need air to be able to get into the (moist) cube in order for roots to form and grow, and squeezing them can cause the "pores" within the structure to get closed down. This why I switched to rapid rooter plugs...they're more spongy and resilient, so even if you squeeze them they tend to pop back to their original form (allowing air to get in very easily). In contrast, if you squeeze rockwool cubes too firmly, you'll see that they tend to remain "compressed" rather than reverting to their original form.
I don't mean to imply that rockwool cubes won't work...they certainly will, and lots of folks use them successfully. Odds are you'll get some (maybe all) of your cuttings to root. I'm just sayin that, in my experience, the rapid rooters are easier to use and I've had 100% success rate so far using 'em. I've tried significantly more times with rockwool over the years, but my success rate has probably been in the 80-90% range.
thegrouch34
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Sweet dude. Had I seen your post prior to me actually doing the clones I would have went with the rapid rooters. Since I'm stuck with rockwool I'm hoping for the best. I soaked them 6 hours because that's what the hydro guy said. 5.5 phed water.
Air Exchange is just from garage. Wish I could pull from outside.
Air Exchange is just from garage. Wish I could pull from outside.
thegrouch34
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Xe. How long does it normally take to get roots growing? 1 week? Also some of the clones are leaning down a bit but not bad. Anything to worry about?
xebeche
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With rapid rooters, I generally see roots start to pop out of the plug after 7-10 days...maybe 12 days to see roots on all of the cuttings in a particular batch. No doubt the roots must start growing earlier than that, but I can't actually see them until they're sticking out of the plug. I wouldn't worry too much about leaning or drooping, it does happen sometimes...for some reason, I rarely see it when I use rapid rooters, but did observe it occasionally when I used a bubble cloner and also sometimes with rockwool (although it's been a long time since I used RW, so can't really remember how frequently it happened). Usually they perked up after a few days. I like to use a humidity dome whenever I clone, regardless of the method...makes it easier to prevent drying out. Just be sure to pull the dome off briefly at least once a day, just to get some fresh air in there. Roots need oxygen and moisture to form and grow. If the drooping continues for more than a few days, it might mean you need to change things up a bit (like maybe removing the dome for a longer period of time). Honestly, its been so long since I used rw for cloning, I have a hard time recalling the details of my experiences. Rapid rooters just seem to be so much more reliable that I doubt I'll ever go back to rw. Keep us posted on your progress.
thegrouch34
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Thanks for the rep Dspec.
I will. I usually take the dome off for a little over 5-10 mins while im looking at them and spraying them with the mister. I really need these to root in order to ensure my next gros stability. If these dont show roots with in 5 more days im going to go buy some rapid rooters and take some cuts from my already flowering kidos. You have been such a big help man. Thanks for all your time. + Rep for you@
I will. I usually take the dome off for a little over 5-10 mins while im looking at them and spraying them with the mister. I really need these to root in order to ensure my next gros stability. If these dont show roots with in 5 more days im going to go buy some rapid rooters and take some cuts from my already flowering kidos. You have been such a big help man. Thanks for all your time. + Rep for you@
fatalack
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I use rockwool and rooting powder, I know they suck but when I first started I just used miricle grow soil and rooting powder I did this 2 or 3 times and to my suprise they all rooted just took for ever
I got a similar set up in my garage just a little smaller kinda. I have to add another door because I actually have 2 small rooms in one, After I am done with all the renovation I will start a grow journal but for now I cant wait to see what come out of you're kool set up
I got a similar set up in my garage just a little smaller kinda. I have to add another door because I actually have 2 small rooms in one, After I am done with all the renovation I will start a grow journal but for now I cant wait to see what come out of you're kool set up
dspec
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i have had alot of trouble with cloning. i have tried alot of methods, aero cloners, rapid rooters, rockwool, jiffy pellets, soil. You name it. I kept making the same fundamental mistakes....
Do not over water! mist them ONCE a day, do not water the plugs until they are Completly DRY. Do not give them too much light, or else they will try to photosynthesis and end up consuming them selves. If you can afford it, get a heating pad, makes a HUGE difference.
You'll get it bro just got to give them what they want.
Do not over water! mist them ONCE a day, do not water the plugs until they are Completly DRY. Do not give them too much light, or else they will try to photosynthesis and end up consuming them selves. If you can afford it, get a heating pad, makes a HUGE difference.
You'll get it bro just got to give them what they want.