Never coming back down...

[BlazedMonkey]

Does anyone know someone first hand that has never come back from a trip, to the point that to this day they are still crazy/removed from this world?

Ive seen people flip out but within 10 hours all were totally fine, however ive had a teacher (who was for weed/shrooms) say she would never do acid again/its dangerous because she had a friend go crazy and is in an institution now.
Im skeptical.

Does anyone have any experience with chronic mental health issues brought on by tripping?

 

[BBYY]

I know a guy who is permanently fucked from LSD.

He is a bit shaky, always talks fast and real paranoid.
His problem was bad lsd and high amounts of it.
he does not need to be institutionalized but IMO if there was a place in between he should be there.

Whats really your concern? Are you worried if you take some you will be a fuck tard?

 

[BlazedMonkey]

Hahaha no not at all i think unless i get contaminated LSD i will handle it just fine.
Ive had intense and borderline uncomfortable trips but never a "bad" trip overall or never lost control.
However i just wanted to know if anyone on hear had seen anyone be permanently damaged from tripping.

 

[racerboy71]

there is this kid that was a year or two ahead of me in school, and now i see him around my town and the one next to mine, and dude is shot right the fuck out.. always talking to himself, going threw garbage cans and picking butts up off of the ground.. i have no clue what his deal is.. i'm not sure if he is perma fried or if he is just still using now, but he's got to be the closest one i know of who is permafried like your talking about..
there was one time i was on e, and took about half a gram of k and never thought i was coming back down again.. i was out of it for a good few hours before my mind starting to clear and i came back to this world.. was rather scary.. my friends were even thinking of dropping me off at the hospital... i was a real mess..

 

[Corso312]

yes i know 2 people...one on shrooms the other was acid...shrooms was a friend had died when we were young 17..and someone told his very close friend who was on shrooms at the time about dude dying..he never was quite right again..lost his scholarship to northwestern..was a damn shame...have to be in the right frame of mind and with the right people to shroom or trip

 

[racerboy71]

Hahaha no not at all i think unless i get contaminated LSD i will handle it just fine.
Ive had intense and borderline uncomfortable trips but never a "bad" trip overall or never lost control.
However i just wanted to know if anyone on hear had seen anyone be permanently damaged from tripping.

i've always heard of the term bad trips, but i never really understood what a bad trip was, other than say taking something that wasn't really lsd or something along those lines, but i could never understand what could make a trip bad.. maybe taking too much of it, and going overboard?? idk, when ever i was on acid, i could always simply remind myself that i was on acid and that everything was fine, and it was just the drug making things the way that they were, and once the acid wore off, i'd be fine again..

that was the problem with the k, two seconds after i took it, i kept saying to myself, wtf did i just take.. i kept asking myself that over and over.. that quickly, i couldn't remember what it was that i took, let alone trying to remind myself that i was just on a drug and everything would be fine once it wore off..

 

[BlazedMonkey]

Sorry to hear :/
What happened to the one on acid?

 

[BlazedMonkey]

i've always heard of the term bad trips, but i never really understood what a bad trip was, other than say taking something that wasn't really lsd or something along those lines, but i could never understand what could make a trip bad.. maybe taking too much of it, and going overboard?? idk, when ever i was on acid, i could always simply remind myself that i was on acid and that everything was fine, and it was just the drug making things the way that they were, and once the acid wore off, i'd be fine again..

that was the problem with the k, two seconds after i took it, i kept saying to myself, wtf did i just take.. i kept asking myself that over and over.. that quickly, i couldn't remember what it was that i took, let alone trying to remind myself that i was just on a drug and everything would be fine once it wore off..

Bad trip in that you are terrified and think you are going to die and dont enjoy it. Thats what i think of when people say bad trip at least. My brother/friend have each had experiences like that and shy away from shrooms now. I understand what they went through as ive had moments like that but i would always remind myself everything was okay and then i would be totally fine and loving everything again.
^ LSD though has never even given me the slightest bit of that always feel happy and full of euphoric energy while with lucy.

 

[Corso312]

the one on acid is a little more dirty.. he was bragging about how he does thumbprints and talking shit ..and some drunk asshole thought it would be funny to stick a sheet in his mouth when he was sleeping..he woke up an hour later freaking out..knew he was spun and "asked for a phone at this party to call his mother" then freaked out more, and ran out of house..he has never been the same since

 

[canndo]

i've always heard of the term bad trips, but i never really understood what a bad trip was, other than say taking something that wasn't really lsd or something along those lines, but i could never understand what could make a trip bad.. maybe taking too much of it, and going overboard?? idk, when ever i was on acid, i could always simply remind myself that i was on acid and that everything was fine, and it was just the drug making things the way that they were, and once the acid wore off, i'd be fine again..

that was the problem with the k, two seconds after i took it, i kept saying to myself, wtf did i just take.. i kept asking myself that over and over.. that quickly, i couldn't remember what it was that i took, let alone trying to remind myself that i was just on a drug and everything would be fine once it wore off..

One can indeed have a "bad trip" and be confronted with things they cannot handle. In situations such as these you cannot "tell yourself" anything at all. The point of LSD (at least for me) was to throw yourself in the river of conciousness and see what happens from that point on - give up control, give up "talking to yourself" and simply be. Sometimes, there are rapids in the way - and sometimes waterfalls with rocks at the bottom.

No, I know some people that upon reflection were unstable and a drug simply accelerated their fall from sanity. I know of one person who never recovered from a hash smoking experience.

No one stays in that state however, even the ones who are never sane again are no longer under the influence of the drugs you took. If you think for any reason you are unstable, then don't do conciousness distorting drugs.

 

[BlazedMonkey]

Thats alot of LSD to be unwillingly dose with :/
And when you say never been the same does he still function in society and is just a little off?

 

[Corso312]

i have not tripped or shroomed since i was 20...never do either again...but if you are in a controlled envirement with other people tripping with ya and have your 6 -8 hours planned out..you should be all good..i tripped maybe 65 times from the time i was 16-20..the last trip was not good..and have never tripped since

 

[BlazedMonkey]

i have not tripped or shroomed since i was 20...never do either again...but if you are in a controlled envirement with other people tripping with ya and have your 6 -8 hours planned out..you should be all good..i tripped maybe 65 times from the time i was 16-20..the last trip was not good..and have never tripped since

May i ask what happened on this bad trip? And why you choose to not trip any more?(worried about another bad trip)?

 

[NP88]

According to my mom, my uncle was a big acid head. Now, he is not quite right. He is super paranoid about chemicals and spores and gives all his money to the church, while he can barely support himself. It was because of this that I stayed away from acid so long. My theory is that if you are predisposed to mental disorders, acid can bring out these conditions much quicker.

My buddy that I always trip with was telling me that his mother met a guy that was dosed unknowingly, and he jumped off of a cliff to try and commit suicide. He is now an amputee. I dont know what his mental status is, but my buddy is gonna find out.

 

[racerboy71]

One can indeed have a "bad trip" and be confronted with things they cannot handle. In situations such as these you cannot "tell yourself" anything at all. The point of LSD (at least for me) was to throw yourself in the river of conciousness and see what happens from that point on - give up control, give up "talking to yourself" and simply be. Sometimes, there are rapids in the way - and sometimes waterfalls with rocks at the bottom.

No, I know some people that upon reflection were unstable and a drug simply accelerated their fall from sanity. I know of one person who never recovered from a hash smoking experience.

No one stays in that state however, even the ones who are never sane again are no longer under the influence of the drugs you took. If you think for any reason you are unstable, then don't do conciousness distorting drugs.

i agree whole heartedly with your last statement there.. i guess that is why i never had a bad trip so to speak.. not to say i'm the most stable person in the world, don't mean to come off that way, but i've never tripped when i was in a bad head space, so i guess that is why i've never had a bad trip so to speak.. i have always heard that you should really never take shrooms especially if your in a bad head space as the shrooms will only amplify your mood.. a good mood is therefore a very good mood, and a bad mood, would therefore be a really bad mood.. not a good time to be exploring the realms of your inner being..

 

[sven deisel]

you will know when you have a bad trip. its isnt just a shitty trip or being wigged out. it is full blown insane, leave an open wound in your mind for the rest of your life. i have died felt and smelled myself rot away been judged and sent to hell. and of all thimes i dropped tons of hits. when it happened it only took 1 hit and right away i felt my gears werent turning right and knew to get out into the woods. it has nothing to do with what mood you are in or any of that. and yes i did know someone that never came back last i seen of them they were living in a house made of sheets tied in trees in the woods. and they were gone gone

 

[Corso312]

Thats alot of LSD to be unwillingly dose with :/
And when you say never been the same does he still function in society and is just a little off?

well the one on shrooms had a full football scholarship to northwestern university, he was not a dumb football player either he got like a 32 on his a.c.t. and was pretty good at football. he works at a taco bell now...the one on acid was not a friend of mine but i met him a few times..he is a drifter and holds no jobs

 

[Corso312]

May i ask what happened on this bad trip? And why you choose to not trip any more?(worried about another bad trip)?

well i took a hit when i was with 6 or 7 people chillin at the park, smoking weed etc..this was like 7 pm..well those guys had to go to bed for work/school at like 11 p.m.and i was up alone with nothing to do and ended up having my first anxiety attack(did not know what one was at that time) and i was tripping for a good 15 hours..i had tripped off the same hit on the same sheet before and it was always good clean fun...never lasted longer than 7 or 8 hours..i think my paranoia took over and made me think i was still tripping..yes i do fear the next trip may be too much..my brain does not want it anymore, me either..

 

[BlazedMonkey]

you will know when you have a bad trip. its isnt just a shitty trip or being wigged out. it is full blown insane, leave an open wound in your mind for the rest of your life. i have died felt and smelled myself rot away been judged and sent to hell. and of all thimes i dropped tons of hits. when it happened it only took 1 hit and right away i felt my gears werent turning right and knew to get out into the woods. it has nothing to do with what mood you are in or any of that. and yes i did know someone that never came back last i seen of them they were living in a house made of sheets tied in trees in the woods. and they were gone gone

Damn that's crazy. Thanks for the info everyone, I really appreciate it.

Corso do you do anything besides smoke??

 

[canndo]

well i took a hit when i was with 6 or 7 people chillin at the park, smoking weed etc..this was like 7 pm..well those guys had to go to bed for work/school at like 11 p.m.and i was up alone with nothing to do and ended up having my first anxiety attack(did not know what one was at that time) and i was tripping for a good 15 hours..i had tripped off the same hit on the same sheet before and it was always good clean fun...never lasted longer than 7 or 8 hours..i think my paranoia took over and made me think i was still tripping..yes i do fear the next trip may be too much..my brain does not want it anymore, me either..

Then you are done. Don't push it, the next one could be a wonderful, enlightening experience and it can also be hell. You are being told something, listen to what that is.