MEGAyielder420
Active Member
Masp I use the rapid rooters and have allways had great success. I have an easy cloner and its sitting in my garage cloecting dust. You have the right concept dont complicate yourself KISS. Good Luck
I'm About to Give Up on Cloning
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TGD
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I had similar problems with clones when I first started. However, I've never had to wait more than 2 weeks for roots to pop. But I have found that a solution of Canna Rhizotonic and water at 15ml/g, with a pH of 5.8-6.2 serves as a great base for popping solid roots rather quickly. Most importantly though is the temperature and humidity levels, I think. I've done clones with a temperature as little as 65 degrees and a humidity level around the same number. Took a lot longer, but it still came out solid in the end.
I just recently took cuts and put them in rockwool soaked with the above mentioned solution, in a proper environment and I got monster roots in a matter of a week. I have also took cuts and rooted them in Coco which turned out extremely well, but took a little bit longer. That is probably due to the conditions at the time, however, as the environment was not ideal. Next time I take cuts, I'm going to put them in Coco, in proper conditions and see what happens.
Also, now that I think of it: I also give them a foliar spray of the same solution once or twice a day. I've heard people say that this isn't a good idea, but it seems to work very well. If I can get solid, rooted clones within a week, I am a happy person.
I just recently took cuts and put them in rockwool soaked with the above mentioned solution, in a proper environment and I got monster roots in a matter of a week. I have also took cuts and rooted them in Coco which turned out extremely well, but took a little bit longer. That is probably due to the conditions at the time, however, as the environment was not ideal. Next time I take cuts, I'm going to put them in Coco, in proper conditions and see what happens.
Also, now that I think of it: I also give them a foliar spray of the same solution once or twice a day. I've heard people say that this isn't a good idea, but it seems to work very well. If I can get solid, rooted clones within a week, I am a happy person.
taint
Well-Known Member
This is an easy way to do some cuts.First a healthy plant in veg with some good branching,side and top views.
I use an old cutting board,a rusty razor,sharp fine pointed scissors and roottech gel.
You don't need any hormones at all to take cuts successfully but it speeds up the process and the plants are less beat up by the time they root.
How the branch looks removed with nodes attached and stripped off,I just pinch them off be careful not to kink the stem.......kinking is bad.
Stick in gel let sit for 30 seconds or so.
In this case I'm using peat pellets but it'll work in just about anything that will keep the cut from drying out while it's rooting.
Soak the pellets overnight or they'll suck the moisture outta the cuts with bad results.
Poke hole in pellet,stick cut all the way down again careful not to kink the stem.
Form pellet around stem,gently.......then dunk in water to replace what ya squeezed out by forming then put in a dome.I'm using a cake box,they come in a huge variety of shapes and sizes plus ya getta cake.......fucking A.
In this case they're about 12"s under a 42 watt cfl,just leave'em alone they don't like being messed with.
Roots take anywhere from 5 to 15 days depending on plant and temp,I will take some pics and explain how I quick harden them off and pot'em when these root.
Now the donor plant provided 6 cuts and has 4 main branches,ready to be up-potted and flowered tomorrow.
I use an old cutting board,a rusty razor,sharp fine pointed scissors and roottech gel.
You don't need any hormones at all to take cuts successfully but it speeds up the process and the plants are less beat up by the time they root.
How the branch looks removed with nodes attached and stripped off,I just pinch them off be careful not to kink the stem.......kinking is bad.
Stick in gel let sit for 30 seconds or so.
In this case I'm using peat pellets but it'll work in just about anything that will keep the cut from drying out while it's rooting.
Soak the pellets overnight or they'll suck the moisture outta the cuts with bad results.
Poke hole in pellet,stick cut all the way down again careful not to kink the stem.
Form pellet around stem,gently.......then dunk in water to replace what ya squeezed out by forming then put in a dome.I'm using a cake box,they come in a huge variety of shapes and sizes plus ya getta cake.......fucking A.
In this case they're about 12"s under a 42 watt cfl,just leave'em alone they don't like being messed with.
Roots take anywhere from 5 to 15 days depending on plant and temp,I will take some pics and explain how I quick harden them off and pot'em when these root.
Now the donor plant provided 6 cuts and has 4 main branches,ready to be up-potted and flowered tomorrow.
Gamberro
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Okay, everyone, I didn't read too much so I am sorry to those who diligently milled through these 7 pages, and to all the struggling cloners who are about to read this: I just really got into cloning, I have had a 100% success rate, and my conditions are ghetto as FUCK.
I literally put an airstone in a DWC bucket, layered kids' play foam padding over the DWC bucket, wrapped panda film all over that, put the cuttings into little straws that were inserted into the panda film, and kept them in a room heated to about 80º, upper 70's more often. I use Olivia's Cloning Solution until roots, then switch off to the cheap ass generic veg ferts I have, measuring ppm, and using only distilled water of course. 100% success rate. Maybe it's just my strains, or maybe I'm fucking superman, but this really isn't that hard.
EDIT: I see people discussing rockwool. I have a simple solution for rockwool; don't use it. My associate used to be in charge of cloning and had about a 50% success rate with cloning, and he used the gels and EVERYTHING. Maintain the root tip over no medium, make sure it dangles just over the water's surface, and you should be golden. Also be sure to foliar spray on occasion.
I literally put an airstone in a DWC bucket, layered kids' play foam padding over the DWC bucket, wrapped panda film all over that, put the cuttings into little straws that were inserted into the panda film, and kept them in a room heated to about 80º, upper 70's more often. I use Olivia's Cloning Solution until roots, then switch off to the cheap ass generic veg ferts I have, measuring ppm, and using only distilled water of course. 100% success rate. Maybe it's just my strains, or maybe I'm fucking superman, but this really isn't that hard.
EDIT: I see people discussing rockwool. I have a simple solution for rockwool; don't use it. My associate used to be in charge of cloning and had about a 50% success rate with cloning, and he used the gels and EVERYTHING. Maintain the root tip over no medium, make sure it dangles just over the water's surface, and you should be golden. Also be sure to foliar spray on occasion.
Goldowitz
Well-Known Member
It is VERY easy to do so. I now water my cuttings in small RW cubes with a digi scale and a spray bottle. It is worth it. Here are my roots at 13 days and ready to go.
Me to had problems first,then i thought the problem is with the mother plant, i kept in vegetative growth( 16 = hours light) all the time under a Metal halide light,
Mix liquid rooting harmone,Also whcile cutting There should be three or four sets of leaves remaining on the cutting,Now submerge the bottom of the cutting and make another cut diagonally. This will expose more stem surface to the water and make it easier for the cutting to absorb nutrients. This cut must be made under water to prevent a bubble forming in the stem, blocking nutrient intake.
make the cutting in 45 degree angle so that i will absord more water,..
Try your best,,,
Find out your mistakes and correct it,
Practice makes man perfect...
Mix liquid rooting harmone,Also whcile cutting There should be three or four sets of leaves remaining on the cutting,Now submerge the bottom of the cutting and make another cut diagonally. This will expose more stem surface to the water and make it easier for the cutting to absorb nutrients. This cut must be made under water to prevent a bubble forming in the stem, blocking nutrient intake.
make the cutting in 45 degree angle so that i will absord more water,..
Try your best,,,
Find out your mistakes and correct it,
Practice makes man perfect...
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
73 celcius huh? I'm impressed.
What was you method? And temps condition of the room any cloneing gel or solutions? Good job keep it up.I now have 7 out of 10 rooting, SLH still shows nothing btw... that's a 70% in my first try with an aerocloner. PH is stable, the roots are now growing out of the netpots. This is it! I found my method
maps84
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I did a lot of things some wrong and some right, but next time I'll just prune, cut and put in the cloner, then I'll PH water to 5.5 and leave it alone.
First I took the cuts and placed them in Clonex solution for 30 minutes. 10 ml x 1 quart of water
I rather violently scraped the stem bellow the node about half inch length.
Then I put them in a tequila shot filled with Rootech hormone for 3 minutes
Further I just placed them in the neoprene collars and into the aero cloner. Cuts wilted for 6 hours then they started to thrive.
Solution was just PH'd water with a drop of superthrive and 3/4 tsp of H2O2 in 3.5 Gal of water.
Pump Cycle is 1 minute on 4 off.
First I took the cuts and placed them in Clonex solution for 30 minutes. 10 ml x 1 quart of water
I rather violently scraped the stem bellow the node about half inch length.
Then I put them in a tequila shot filled with Rootech hormone for 3 minutes
Further I just placed them in the neoprene collars and into the aero cloner. Cuts wilted for 6 hours then they started to thrive.
Solution was just PH'd water with a drop of superthrive and 3/4 tsp of H2O2 in 3.5 Gal of water.
Pump Cycle is 1 minute on 4 off.
TheOldRat
Member
nice range for buds... not so much for the little guys. they live on humidity until the roots grow.
Also higher temps/humidity on your mothers will make bigger/fatter leafs for your clones.
Also if veg/cloning areas have the same temp/humidity this lessen the shock.
I have found if you leave big leaf on a clone the clone will drain it and roots pop out faster.
i didnt read all this thread so someone mighta said this but try a cup of tap water in a cup cover the top with foil poke hole big enough for stem in foil make sure atleast a 1/2inch of stem i submerged more is fine then do nothing for 4 days just left it in corner of veg room then start checking it every day or 2 after you got 3 or 4 good roots put in well watered soil
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
Dude you need to have some patience. That's it.
Everything you tried would've/should've worked but I'm sure yo did something...no offense
Once they are planted in whatever you plant them in, you have to leave them alone.
Just to see how easy it could really be I did a test.
Took a black 32oz soda cup. Got an air pump.
Poked holes in a Styrofoam plate and taped it over the top of the cup.
Took the cuttings, no scraping or slitting the stem. Straight from water to clonex to the holes in the plate.
I used straight water out of the tap, not pH'ed, no nutes at root stimulators.
Just plain water. Mine comes out at 650 ppm from the tap.
I stuck a hole from the air pump into a hole in the plate into the water, No air stone.
Whenever I felt like it, I would mist the plants, but I really didn't matter if I did or not
so I did it sporadically.
Basically I wanted to make the cheapest, most simple bubble cloner I could.
Root in 9 days.
Good luck.
Everything you tried would've/should've worked but I'm sure yo did something...no offense
Once they are planted in whatever you plant them in, you have to leave them alone.
Just to see how easy it could really be I did a test.
Took a black 32oz soda cup. Got an air pump.
Poked holes in a Styrofoam plate and taped it over the top of the cup.
Took the cuttings, no scraping or slitting the stem. Straight from water to clonex to the holes in the plate.
I used straight water out of the tap, not pH'ed, no nutes at root stimulators.
Just plain water. Mine comes out at 650 ppm from the tap.
I stuck a hole from the air pump into a hole in the plate into the water, No air stone.
Whenever I felt like it, I would mist the plants, but I really didn't matter if I did or not
so I did it sporadically.
Basically I wanted to make the cheapest, most simple bubble cloner I could.
Root in 9 days.
Good luck.
maps84
Well-Known Member
I don't know why it was so hard!! but the aerocloner took care of everything really.. I had 100% success, even SLH has roots now and it's vegging. I'm building a better cloner. You don't have to use bleach just detergent and boling water to clean everything and that's it
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
Congrats man, what finally did it for besides the aero cloner?