Birthers Unite
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Here we go again:
I don't give a shit about your pompous editing abilities.
I believe the party of obumber is made up of America hating degenerates, not patriots.
I don't care who you are or what you have done. If you do not have a net contribution to government coffers over the past election cycle you should not be allowed to vote. If you live off of taxpayers it is a conflict of interest for you to vote on what someone else pays. But I am crushed that you think I am repugnant.
Your assertion of " the entire scientific community" speaks for it's self. Same kinda facts that al bore uses.
UncleBuck
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i believe the tea party hates america. why? see below...
i believe tea partiers hate america because they do not trust their fellow citizens, even the ones who nearly lost their lives fighting for her.
facts listed by you: 0
wild, speculative assertions that man made climate change, a theory accepted by well over 90% of those who actually study it, is a nefarious kabal made by you: several.
strong claims like the one you are making take strong evidence to support. so where is yours?
PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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I'd go furthur and say "Even the President",,, does not know what the game is about!
Do YOU?
I guess I missed em, what were your facts? You may get away with making wild speculations and then calling them facts in your little circle of liberal buddies, but not with me.
But if that is your criteria, I guess you could say that my pointing out that the earth's climate has been in a constant state of change for 4.54 billions years is a fact.
P.S. this is what a fact looks like
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
Ernst
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yeah I'd have to agree that once the Man gets cocooned in the Secret Service protection any president loses touch.
PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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I bet in that "Protection",,,A lot is discovered,,,not all speculated upon?
Luger187
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i LOL'd at that
colocowboy
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It's amazing that there are people that would entertain the thought that the US gov't would less thoroughly verify the presidency than a drivers license or bank account......
Quit sippin' the koolaid, this crap is just a dixie dog whistle for racism "he doesn't belong".... there is any wonder as to why there cannot be a civilized conversation....
Quit sippin' the koolaid, this crap is just a dixie dog whistle for racism "he doesn't belong".... there is any wonder as to why there cannot be a civilized conversation....
Wow! you just called anyone who question obumbers credentials a racist, and then wonder why there is not a civil conversation. You just can't make this stuff up folks.
Whats next, you want to have a friendly debate with the teabaggers?
Well now this is interesting : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c
I'm not buying it yet, but we do need to have this document evaluated by an unbiased expert. Leave it to obumber to not just unequivocally answer the question.
I'm not buying it yet, but we do need to have this document evaluated by an unbiased expert. Leave it to obumber to not just unequivocally answer the question.
You do realize that just being a US Citizen does not qualify you for the presidency right? Arnold Shwarzenegger is a US Citizen, but he could NEVER be the president, he could never even entertain the thought of running.
This has NOTHING to do with Obama being a Citizen. I'm not even sure why people are still posting about it, he showed the thing, story over go to bed.
How about releasing all the records every other presidential candidate from modern times has released. You can't blame people for being skeptical, prior to today the only records he has released to the public were his two books.
But Like I said, I'm not convinced that this document is not legit. In fact until I see proof otherwise, I believe it is the real thing.
DAMNIT!!! Now I am skeptical again. Crap!
Carne Seca
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He would have to become a white guy.
UncleBuck
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all of the birth certificates, college records, and other documents will not convince the racist portion of the birthers to give up their conspiracy theory.
the conspiracy theory portion of the birthers will remain, despite the fact that they have no evidence, such as a flight or other record of obama's mother leaving the country. nor do they have any other evidence via passport/visa/etc that shows she left the country near or around the time of the birth of our president.
i have seen comparisons of 'birtherism' to 'jim crowism' before, and they seem to apply. during the days of jim crow laws, blacks, poor whites, and other minorities were often ineligible to participate in the election process. this is because no matter how many official, legitimate documents they produced, those documents had to be "approved".
who approved those documents? often, it was two clansmen at the voting station. empirical evidence supports this claim.
jim crow laws ended once these racists became the vast minority. they should have never been there in the first place, but people simply could not face the fact that BLACK MEN were allowed to vote.
birtherism is a revised version of jim crowism all over again. the only difference is that it is now against one man, instead of many.
it does not matter that the document he provided over 2 years ago, which officials higher than any of us determined was sufficient to meet all necessary criteria.
no, it does not meet YOUR standard. the same standard that was never on display for the last 43 presidencies, with the slight exception of chester arthur in 1880. kinda funny that he was the son of an IRISHMAN (were they ever unfairly hated in america?) and that the claim faded because there was never any proof.
nowadays, even 1960-1962, is much different than 1830 (when arthur was born). there should be some sort of document, such as a passport, visa, etc that shows his mother left the country. or even a flight record, or a hotel stay, or something....
where is this evidence? there is no evidence. only a rebuttal of very sufficient evidence from the other side.
basically, what the birther side is saying at this point is: i'm sorry, your documents all look good, but they do not meet OUR approval.
just like the clansmen at the voting station.
i am sure there are some people just itching for a good conspiracy theory to latch onto, bu the vast majority of these people have just accepted 'birth certificate' as the new euphemism for n***er.
there is no better explanation.
Luger187
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i think if you don't accept the two different types of birth certificates he's released, and question the validity of the documents, for the first time, to the first black president, yes... we call you a racist. what other president did you question their place of birth? what about Mccain? he was born in Panama! oh but just because it was on an army base its okay, right? its because he is white that you did not complain about it(or you dont know). if Obama was born in Panama at that very same base, you know DAMN WELL that you would be screaming in the streets that he is not a citizen.