Yeah, I'm saving up for the High Times MediCup in June, so I figure if there is any place to haggle with an LED dealer, or any pot or grow product, it's with the people who own/represent the company as these conventions. It's my plan to go with a big wad of cash and make my presence known the first day...you know, ask a lot of questions, act real interested, be well informed about the topic...and the second half of the second day, I move in for the kill and see which LED provider will cut me the sweetest deal, seeing as they know I'm interested...lol...I dunno, if I get a good enough deal, I might walk away with a new grow light! Or I'll drop that wad on a portable AC unit and some HID lighting...Maybe a vaporizer or some other weed goodies/gadgets...Or just take my girl out for a nice couple of nights on the town in San Francisco...Should be fun. Might just get stoned, wander around for an hour and leave...lol...Anyway, been intrigued by LED's for a while now, and I'm familiar with your nugs, so I know there is something to 'em. Can't wait to see what your new light does for ya!