Osama Bin Laden Dead...

NLXSK1

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what i'm saying is that more often than not 'enhanced interrogation' led to unreliable information. that is a fact.
No, it is an opinion.

another fact is that ONE person gave 'good' information 4-5 times, after being waterboarded almost like 100 or more times.... the method is unreliable and doesn't make sense.
Again, your opinion. I have heard from people with more qualifications than you that it does work. It appears to have provided information that eventually led to the death of Osama Bin Laden. AND THAT IS A FACT!!

and another thing, bin laden was in pakistan in a pretty crappy hiding spot for a whole bush term. obama found him quick, that information was available since 2002???????????????? it makes sense that the CIA briefed bush on this, and the whole we've been close a few times (which i've heard swirled around the news) is a lie....

credit where it's due. bush may have known about bin laden's whereabouts and didn't do a damn thing.

obama ordered the most elite soldiers in our arsenal to put a bullet in his head.
Over 2 years into his term and on the night that Trump unofficially announces his intention to run for president. Yeah, Obama looks like a rock star!! LOL!!!

You do know that Obama broke at least 5 international treaties among other things to go and kill Bin Laden in a sovereign country and has done little to help our foreign relations with the Muslim world.
 

redivider

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No, it is an opinion.



Again, your opinion. I have heard from people with more qualifications than you that it does work. It appears to have provided information that eventually led to the death of Osama Bin Laden. AND THAT IS A FACT!!



Over 2 years into his term and on the night that Trump unofficially announces his intention to run for president. Yeah, Obama looks like a rock star!! LOL!!!

You do know that Obama broke at least 5 international treaties among other things to go and kill Bin Laden in a sovereign country and has done little to help our foreign relations with the Muslim world.
you've heard that from fox news, and guess what?? it is a LIE.

straight from the guy in the interrogation room, he says enhanced interrogation increases the chance that the person will give you unreliable information.

they'll talk, but upon verification the information is found to be faulty, or outright FALSE.

fox news would like you to believe that enhanced interrogation has the result that most suspects give in and start talking, that much is true, but that doesn't make what they say any more useful....

please look at UB's post. thanks.
 

NLXSK1

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No, I didnt hear it from Fox News.

I heard it directly from high level officials involved in the water boarding process.

I take their opinions on the matter and what material they obtained.

Some information obtained from waterboarding may be wrong or misleading but that does not nullify the provable valuable information obtained from prisoners subject to this procedure. Those are facts that you can ignore but not deny. Well, you can deny it all you want but you will still be wrong.

UB is on Ignore. Thanks...
 

UncleBuck

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No, it is an opinion.....Again, your opinion.
[video=youtube;QsogswrH6ck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsogswrH6ck[/video]

I have heard from people with more qualifications than you that it does work. It appears to have provided information that eventually led to the death of Osama Bin Laden. AND THAT IS A FACT!!
yes, it is a fact that you have an opinion.

"i have heard"..."it appears"...OPINION!

You do know that Obama broke at least 5 international treaties among other things to go and kill Bin Laden in a sovereign country and has done little to help our foreign relations with the Muslim world.
this is proof that it does not matter what obama does, the righties will look for a way to lynch him.

how dare he fly into pakistan in the dead of night and kill bin laden, just like he promised!

wipe the sand out of your collective vaginas, righties.
 

UncleBuck

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I heard it directly from high level officials involved in the water boarding process.
i highly doubt that high level officials visit you in your parents' basement all that often while you work on plans for all those awesome businesses you would have started had obama not been elected.

redivider, you may want to link him to that npr article without mentioning it came from me, as it disproves 100% of what NLXSK claims.

that fucking amateur.
 

NLXSK1

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NPR? That bastion of unbiased journalism? ROFLMAO!!! Even you should be ashamed to attack Fox news while citing NPR as a source for anything...

Got one business started, thanks for asking.

It is all trolling to you, aint it?

P.S. that was a rhetorical question as you are still on ignore and I doubt I will see the answer...
 

UncleBuck

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waterboarding and all that nonesense is torture: we cannot condone it, we cannot use it, we cannot admit we did it, and we have to work actively to eliminate it on a global scale. that will make the world a better place.
america holds itself to a higher standard. i do not want to give incentive to the enemy to torture our soldiers by stooping to their level.
 

NLXSK1

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http://www.npr.org/2011/02/14/133497869/one-man-says-no-to-harsh-interrogation-techniques

let's just say he was able to find several high value targets without ever using 'enhanced interrogation'

waterboarding and all that nonesense is torture: we cannot condone it, we cannot use it, we cannot admit we did it, and we have to work actively to eliminate it on a global scale. that will make the world a better place.
It isnt torture, we do it to our own troops in SEER school.

We should not condone torture or use it. However, water boarding is not torture. 2 separate issues.
 

UncleBuck

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NPR? That bastion of unbiased journalism? ROFLMAO!!! Even you should be ashamed to attack Fox news while citing NPR as a source for anything...

Got one business started, thanks for asking.

It is all trolling to you, aint it?

P.S. that was a rhetorical question as you are still on ignore and I doubt I will see the answer...
why don't you tell me what is wrong with the methods matthew alexander used to get zarquawi instead of simply committing the logical fallacy of condemning something based on who said it?

oh, i know why. you live in your parents' basement.

just the same as you ignore what i say because i once mocked you with a joke about fucking your dead mother, which i should apologize for.

i apologize for making such a heinous insult.
 

NLXSK1

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why don't you tell me what is wrong with the methods matthew alexander used to get zarquawi instead of simply committing the logical fallacy of condemning something based on who said it?

oh, i know why. you live in your parents' basement.

just the same as you ignore what i say because i once mocked you with a joke about fucking your dead mother, which i should apologize for.

i apologize for making such a heinous insult.
See, this is exactly why you are on ignore. You throw personal attacks at me including fucking my dead mother, you throw personal attacks at me living in my parents basement. You are simply a troll UB... And not a very good one.

I put you on ignore for that reason and after briefly looking at 4 or so of your posts here and your interactions with me you have not changed 1 bit in the months I have been gone.

Continue playing your games with the other children, I choose not to participate.
 

UncleBuck

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See, this is exactly why you are on ignore. You throw personal attacks at me including fucking my dead mother, you throw personal attacks at me living in my parents basement. You are simply a troll UB... And not a very good one.

I put you on ignore for that reason and after briefly looking at 4 or so of your posts here and your interactions with me you have not changed 1 bit in the months I have been gone.

Continue playing your games with the other children, I choose not to participate.
i like turtles.
 

redivider

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No, it is an opinion.



Again, your opinion. I have heard from people with more qualifications than you that it does work. It appears to have provided information that eventually led to the death of Osama Bin Laden. AND THAT IS A FACT!!



Over 2 years into his term and on the night that Trump unofficially announces his intention to run for president. Yeah, Obama looks like a rock star!! LOL!!!

You do know that Obama broke at least 5 international treaties among other things to go and kill Bin Laden in a sovereign country and has done little to help our foreign relations with the Muslim world.
oh please. the iraq war was completely legal and we killed 40k innocent iraquis. we broke 5 international treaties and killed 5 people. 1 of them was the most wanted man in the world. not even a 25 million dollar reward could get him.

you are selective in when the international community's stake is taken into consideration. the best thing he could do would be to withdraw from iraq and afganistan. but the military industrial complex and it's rock hard grasp on conservatives' testicles won't let that happen.

republicans have worked hard to prevent obama's agenda from going through, don't offer any viable alternatives, and complain about the lack of progress in government..... it's getting old...
 

NLXSK1

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Well, I guess the international treaties dont matter since Bin Laden was a really really bad guy.

You dont get it, you wont get it. Obama has been violating the constitution and any other law or regulation that suits him since he got into office. I give him credit for being consistent.
 

mexiblunt

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So if I was to give my dna to a lab for analysis. They would know who I am? Just seems strange that one of the big pieces of proof is the dna. What do they match it with? Did they get a sample in the years prior to 911(just in case?) I don't understand.
 

NLXSK1

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So if I was to give my dna to a lab for analysis. They would know who I am? Just seems strange that one of the big pieces of proof is the dna. What do they match it with? Did they get a sample in the years prior to 911(just in case?) I don't understand.
They matched it with DNA from his family.

That is how you can tell who the baby daddy is... Doesnt have to be the EXACT same DNA, just from a close family member and you can be sure.
 

Ernst

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Pentagon released Bin Laden home video could be a fake


May 8th, 2011
Author: Richard Henley Davis Evidence has come to light which suggests one of the much hyped Osama Bin Laden home videos could actually be fake.
The ear tragus is different

Facial hair growth patterns and cheekbones are clearly different to bona fide images of Bin Laden

The press are tripping over themselves to point out the narcissistic characteristics of Osama Bin Laden because of a video released by the Pentagon which supposedly shows Osama fixated by images of himself on television.


The video at no time shows a full frontal image of Bin Laden’s face, however the side profile of the gentleman sitting down watching footage of Bin Laden does bare a strong resemblance to the scape goat mastermind of the 9/11 atrocities.
However, under closer examination the gentleman with a grey beard may NOT actually be Osama Bin Laden.
The cheekbones appear more pronounced, facial hair growth pattern is broader and extends further across the cheek, the end of the nose seems to be a different shape and the ears (particularly the tragus) have noticeable differences when compared to a bona fide image of Bin laden taken from an interview with ABC (on the right of above image) compared to the Pentagon released Bin Laden home video.
There is the chance of course though that Bin Laden had facial reconstructive surgery, however such surgery would seem highly unlikely seeing as the Pentagon has not even hinted at such a thing. Or has age just altered his features?
If Bin Laden did have facial reconstructive surgery the surgeon behind the operation/operations would probably be the most sought after facial reconstructive surgeon in the world seeing as there seems to be no visible sign of alteration.
So what conclusions can be drawn from differentiating between bona fide footage of Bin Laden and the Pentagon released video of a man with a grey beard watching Bin Laden on a small portable television with no facial frontal shot? Oh! Just a quick additional point, the man in the video uses the TV remote control in his right hand and only gesticulates with his left. And. you’ve guessed it, OBL was (according to the FBI) left handed.
But this left-handedness has been disputed, as has his ability to actually move his left arm due to a stroke, as in this piece by Professor David Ray Griffin.
If the release of this video showing a man who looks a bit like Osama Bin Laden fails identification under closer examination through an oversight by the Pentagon, then the world really is in trouble with an idiocracy at the helm of U.S. national security.
The other option is much more insidious.
If this video released by the Pentagon is a fake and released with full knowledge if it being so, then maybe this is the smoking gun conspiracy theorists have been looking for in their search to provide proof of that the U.S. government has lied to the world.
This news could be used to backup previous claims that there is skulduggery behind the whole ‘Bin Laden is dead’ story offered by the U.S. administration which has to date provided NO proof of death other than DNA evidence (U.S. may have had prior access to this from treatment received by Bin Laden in a U.S. military hospital) which is by many regarded as neither here nor there.
Questions also have been raised over why would the world’s most wanted man not be taken alive for questioning when he was privy to the world’s most sensitive intelligence? are we supposed to believe that such a mission could not have been accomplished? Where were the stun grenades?
To suggest that Bin Laden could NOT have been taken alive could be construed as a serious insult to the skills of the American special forces.


Read more: http://www.economicvoice.com/pentagon-released-bin-laden-home-video-possible-fake/50019842#ixzz1LmfsPsFl
 
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