Just what have the Feds been up to? Feds take a stand on Cannabis Commerce again.

[Ernst]

This news is nothing new but is in line with the trend I am seeing.
The Federal Government is going to fight every inch of Cannabis Commerce anywhere it can.

Feds on New Medical Marijuana Offensive [FEATURE]


While DEA raids on medical marijuana providers never came to a complete halt after the Obama administration declared in 2009 that it would not interfere with people operating in compliance with state medical marijuana laws, the pace did slacken. But now, the raids are on the increase -- there have been at least 90 DEA SWAT-style raids since Obama took office -- and the federal government has unveiled an ominous new weapon in its war on the weed: US attorneys in a number of medical marijuana states sending letters to politicians threatening dire consequences, even the potential arrest of state employees, if states okay schemes to tolerate and regulate medical marijuana distribution. Threatening letters from US attorneys have been sent to officials in Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Montana, Rhode Island, and Washington. The first was in February in California; the latest came this week in Arizona.

What is worse is that the interventions by the US attorneys appear deliberately timed to intimidate elected officials as they consider regulating medical marijuana dispensaries -- and it seems to be working. Last week, Washington Gov. Chris Gregoire vetoed a bill that would have created a regulated dispensary system after requesting and receiving a threatening letter from her state's two US attorneys. This week, Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee "placed a hold" on dispensaries about to open there after receiving an unsolicited threatening letter from the US attorney.

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2011/may/05/feds_new_medical_marijuana_offen

 

[DelSlow]

Of course the DEA is going H.A.M. These shops are making LEGIT $$$ off of bud, can't have that in America

 

[Ernst]

Of course the DEA is going H.A.M. These shops are making LEGIT $$$ off of bud, can't have that in America

I agree they are very seriously active in stopping commerce.

Perhaps all we can accomplish for 2012 is private horticulture, use and private non-commerce trade?

Maybe we should take a small safe step forward and see where we are after that.

Better to move forward a little then suck as losers again like 2010.

The all or nothing is a waste of time for 2012.

 

[TichySmokeSmoke]

Well Some of these clubs need to be shut down. In san jose they had people holding signs to advertise to go to which ever club. I think that people shouldnt have to see that im a patient and i think thats dirty.

 

[Carne Seca]

We will not see Cannabis legalization in our lifetime. Unless the economy collapses and the two party system is abolished. As long as corporations pull the strings it will never happen.

 

[Ernst]

We will not see Cannabis legalization in our lifetime. Unless the economy collapses and the two party system is abolished. As long as corporations pull the strings it will never happen.

In small steps we can. We have medical. We can try and extend that to all Californians.

But full Federal? We would need to redo our treaties with the countries of the world I do believe.

Your name means Jerky? Dried meat. How odd.

What is the story behind that if you don't mind.

 

[Carne Seca]

It's the name my mother calls me because of my low body fat. I'm a triathlete. I don't have much spare meat on my bones.

 

[Ernst]

Ahh.. Mothers are cool.. Mine is 86. I just talked to her yesterday.

 

[Carne Seca]

Ahh.. Mothers are cool.. Mine is 86. I just talked to her yesterday.

I just got off the phone with mine. She's a hoot. The original fag hag. She loves THE GAYS.

 

[Ernst]

Well blessings to your mom. Gay or not we need them don't we.

 

[MrStickyScissors]

i live in modesto cali. got caught selling a ounce of weed to a undercover cop and they want to give me prison time. i do have a prior sells charge but i feel prison time for a zip is harsh. what do you think

 

[Ernst]

Woah you are Modesto?

I'd get council and keep the discussion off the site if charges are pending. It can't help you to talk about it.


But feel free to email. Maybe we can grab a beer or two in the near future.

 

[MrStickyScissors]

Woah you are Modesto?

I'd get council and keep the discussion off the site if charges are pending. It can't help you to talk about it.


But feel free to email. Maybe we can grab a beer or two in the near future.

i live in turlock by donelly park lol
no one know where turlock is thats why i say modesto. and it doesnt matter if i talk about it i was caught red handed. i hired percialno martinez

 

[Dan Kone]

The part of this story that is being left out is the reason the feds go after commerce. It's because they know the cannabis business community are the ones most likely to succeed at bringing us legalization, so the FEDs want to eliminate the threat.

 

[Ernst]

i live in turlock by donelly park lol
no one know where turlock is thats why i say modesto. and it doesnt matter if i talk about it i was caught red handed. i hired percialno martinez

Yeah don't put it in print .. Yo!

it's the little shit that Stanco gets off on.

So do me a favor eh? Drop the admissions chat.. Email if you want a friend.
I don't want to expose you. You can go to my ghost town site.. The url is in the sig. It's very zen except for the Spammers but I am learning all about them so it's cool
Cool>?

I'm real and I am sure you have met me already. I am not hard to find but I am not up to any crime so i don't worry.

 

[MrStickyScissors]

Yeah don't put it in print .. Yo!

it's the little shit that Stanco gets off on.

So do me a favor eh? Drop the admissions chat.. Email if you want a friend.
I don't want to expose you. You can go to my ghost town site.. The url is in the sig. It's very zen except for the Spammers but I am learning all about them so it's cool
Cool>?

I'm real and I am sure you have met me already. I am not hard to find but I am not up to any crime so i don't worry.

allright i will check it out

 

[Ernst]

The part of this story that is being left out is the reason the feds go after commerce. It's because they know the cannabis business community are the ones most likely to succeed at bringing us legalization, so the FEDs want to eliminate the threat.

Look man.. I have forgotten what ever it was.
Shit, it's not all that for me who ever you are.

I cannot feed the monkey with you friend. Why you need me is beyond anything I can imagine. You are not real and I cannot gauge the basics of human interaction from text on my screen. so there. It's not my fault I'm out of the cannabis closet and you are not.

Be well man.. Just stop with the psychotic spamming.

 

[canndo]

I agree they are very seriously active in stopping commerce.

Perhaps all we can accomplish for 2012 is private horticulture, use and private non-commerce trade?

Maybe we should take a small safe step forward and see where we are after that.

Better to move forward a little then suck as losers again like 2010.

The all or nothing is a waste of time for 2012.

Ernst, dude, you should check recent SCOTUS findings. There is no such thing in America as "private, non-commerce trade". I don't recall the case but it was in California where two women used local materials, local seeds and grew localy. SCOTUS determined that was interstate commerce anway.

 

[Ernst]

Ernst, dude, you should check recent SCOTUS findings. There is no such thing in America as "private, non-commerce trade". I don't recall the case but it was in California where two women used local materials, local seeds and grew localy. SCOTUS determined that was interstate commerce anyway.

I can give a fellow medical person weed and I don't go to jail, Whole dispensaries exist and they stay open.

So did those people collect monies? Is that why they were in trouble I assume?

We did pass medical. It's a template for all as I understand it since it held up on constitutional review.

I'll check out the SCOTUS link.

I know we have one of our own in for growing for others above 99. so there are practical limits for all things.

And- We are here doing as we do because of medical..

 

[Ernst]

Can you provide a better link than to the whole Supreme Court?

Ah.. Now I remember..

Yeah Federal and international law are there.

We struggle against it but if we are not profiting then is it such a crime?

Should the federal government prosecute medical marijuana users, now that it has been given the OK by the Supreme Court?
* 69575 responses
Yes 10%
No 88%
I'm not sure 2%
&&&&
LOU DOBBS TONIGHT QUICKVOTE
Do you believe the federal government should prosecute doctors who prescribe medical marijuana?
Current Results:
Yes -- 7%
No -- 93%
Total: 3264 votes

Another interesting link

The Lie That Prohibited Marijuana

Source: http://www.shadyhousepub.com/mpiu/the-lie-that-prohibited-marijuana/

December 9, 2010 by Hoam Rogh
I hate jazz music and the narcotic called 'loco-weed'. So I told a little fib to save our nation.

Welcome to the tragic story of Fred Vinson. Many of you have no idea who he was, or what role he played in marijuana prohibition. That’s our job here at MPIU. So this is his story. We’ll save the cursing for the end.

http://dankglassworks.com/TheLieThatProhibitedMarijuanaandHempCannabis.aspx

And more interesting links

Supreme Court action upholds California's medical pot law


Justices reject appeals from San Diego and San Bernardino counties seeking to throw out the state marijuana law. Patients likely will be able to seek ID cards showing they're eligible to use the drug.


May 19, 2009|David G. Savage
The Supreme Court on Monday rejected appeals from two hold-out counties in Southern California that objected to the state's 13-year-old medical marijuana law and claimed it should be struck down as violating the federal drug control act.
Without comment, the court turned down the pair of appeals.
The action probably will clear the way for patients in San Diego and San Bernardino counties to seek county-issued identification cards that show they are eligible to possess and use marijuana.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/19/nation/na-court-marijuana19

On this site Robert Chase comments that until we change the people we face problems. https://www.rollitup.org/colorado-patients/417659-frightening-development-mmj-industry-2.html

That sounds reasonable.. I'm reaching out to the No voters now..

That is what i decided was a good use of my efforts.

Change the opinions or make a deal with the Devil.
We will have to start the inclusive solution on our home turf before we can ride in the big race.

Reaching out to a divided voter base to find a solution to the drug problem while we gain acceptance in our communities.
I will restate it right now Legalizing drug profits is a non-starter but expanding permit system to aid communities and law enforcement is a start in the negotiations.


Again if you have exact links I should read please post them.