I Need Help. Is It Possible to Top Plants 30 Days into Flowering?

[HashGobbler420]

So i think i learned on here that topping a plant is when you like not snap but bend the top part of the plant and it only grows from the sidegrowth? (is this some what correct?)

So the reason im on here about this is because one of the girls shes about 4 1/2ft? 36 days into flower so she has a bigg ass nugg for like the first 5 inches its probally about 3 inchs around pretty. but all the leaves have died from the whole plant but there is about 10 stems? with bud growingand each stem has its patch of leafs but not fullsized ones?? like mini ones. so i was wondering if i could just top the top bud and let the side growth do its thing? is this possible tho? because alot of the (sweet leaf?) the like leafs comming outta the bud. is dying soo... but the hairs are half white half red so idk what would happen there but im not to experienced with any thing i just said to please i need some help. +rep of course. thx

(ps... this is my first so... bare with me...)

 

[My420]

So i think i learned on here that topping a plant is when you like not snap but bend the top part of the plant and it only grows from the sidegrowth? (is this some what correct?)

So the reason im on here about this is because one of the girls shes about 4 1/2ft? 36 days into flower so she has a bigg ass nugg for like the first 5 inches its probally about 3 inchs around pretty. but all the leaves have died from the whole plant but there is about 10 stems? with bud growingand each stem has its patch of leafs but not fullsized ones?? like mini ones. so i was wondering if i could just top the top bud and let the side growth do its thing? is this possible tho? because alot of the (sweet leaf?) the like leafs comming outta the bud. is dying soo... but the hairs are half white half red so idk what would happen there but im not to experienced with any thing i just said to please i need some help. +rep of course. thx

(ps... this is my first so... bare with me...)

Topping is when you cut off the top of the plant BEFORE starting to flower because you want to have it bush out then start to form buds. If you are that far into it you will only lose not gain. there are other things you can do to get more production like LST or light stress training but generally at the point your at you probably wont see much of a difference with that. I would say just let it go for now and try next time to top about 1 week prior to flowering so that way they are recovered from it and already and go smoothly into flowering stage.

 

[hoagtech]

It depends. I chop bud tops if their bigger than the other and I can't lower my reflector. It's just math. Give one plant light or chop it down and give 4 plant lots of light?

 

[My420]

It depends. I chop bud tops if their bigger than the other and I can't lower my reflector. It's just math. Give one plant light or chop it down and give 4 plant lots of light?

ooh I have to disagree your cutting off a top in flowering because you can not lower your light? why would you cut off any top during flower at any time? Did i misunderstand you or are you saying its better to cut off a top bud just to let other plants get more light? If so I am sorry you are so wrong on that. I do not even have words to tell you how bad of information that is. Here is basic math for you because i guess you ditched that day. 1+1 = 2 no matter what... more tops = more yield and there are so many ways to keep plants at a level canopy without cutting one off. Seriously you are so wrong it is disturbing. Hashgobler if you want any advice at all do not listen to this guy. Or ask him for pics then compare to mine and decide for yourself who is closer to the truth.

 

[maxpesh]

Listen to My420, he is talking sense,NEVER top a plant when it's flowering, that's ur biggest bud, next time train it to grow horizontal with some weights and string, yes, that's LST (low stress training)

 

[darkdestruction420]

It depends. I chop bud tops if their bigger than the other and I can't lower my reflector. It's just math. Give one plant light or chop it down and give 4 plant lots of light?

or you could just tie and bend the top bud, might have to be a bit rough with it,but just squeeze the stem like w/supercropping. ive done plenty of supercropping experiments in flower and it will heal pretty quickly. Never seems to bother/stress the plant itself enough to show it in any way for me. Then you get the desired effect and dont lose such a important part of the plant. Thats better math imo. lol.

 

[hoagtech]

ooh I have to disagree your cutting off a top in flowering because you can not lower your light? why would you cut off any top during flower at any time? Did i misunderstand you or are you saying its better to cut off a top bud just to let other plants get more light? If so I am sorry you are so wrong on that. I do not even have words to tell you how bad of information that is. Here is basic math for you because i guess you ditched that day. 1+1 = 2 no matter what... more tops = more yield and there are so many ways to keep plants at a level canopy without cutting one off. Seriously you are so wrong it is disturbing. Hashgobler if you want any advice at all do not listen to this guy. Or ask him for pics then compare to mine and decide for yourself who is closer to the truth.

Have fan putting 64 plants in a flood tray on 8" risers because you want to save your big bud. Go ahead my 420. Plus I saw you pouring battery acid on your plants while listening to lady gaga. I just can't take anything serious from someone who did that.

 

[Paq]

It depends. I chop bud tops if their bigger than the other and I can't lower my reflector. It's just math. Give one plant light or chop it down and give 4 plant lots of light?

ur better off pulling it down try lsting them so there the same hieght rather then lose part of ur main buds

 

[My420]

Have fan putting 64 plants in a flood tray on 8" risers because you want to save your big bud. Go ahead my 420. Plus I saw you pouring battery acid on your plants while listening to lady gaga. I just can't take anything serious from someone who did that.

That was just a great response man especially the battery acid part. LOL....... Now where are your pictures of your grow? Oh wait.... You do not have any even after saying you will post some. Either you took them down because you killed them and did not want people to see it or you can not get to your "" Friends House"" to take the pictures. Anyways anyone who cuts off a top bud just because they do not have room is just losing yield plus the best cola on the plant on top of that you are also slowing down the plants growth because it has to now recover from being topped. But I would not expect someone of your IQ to know that especially with the battery acid comment since I am guessing that is the best you could do and please with quotes like this
"" It depends. I chop bud tops if their bigger than the other and I can't lower my reflector. It's just math. Give one plant light or chop it down and give 4 plant lots of light?""
You make yourself look stupid on your own. DO some research man for crying out loud sheesh.

 

[kbo ca]

yes you can top your plant. you will be losing a bud site however, all of the energy that would have gone to that bud's production will now be sent to the rest of your remaining flowers. Many people will not top a plant in flower because of personal preference. I have had to take a top off because of space issues back when i first started growing. I still had a great yield. Any rookie will tell you not to do it because they don't understand sometimes you have to make a sacrafice if the conditions call for it. They soon will learn. You are perfectly safe taking a top off of your plant at any point in time in your plants life period.

 

[Serapis]

Dude, why the drama? What if he just cropped the top stem on the single plant? Why would he need to raise all the others? I've seen you ask and say some pretty weird things on here as well.... and what does Lady Gaga have to do with anything?

Have fan putting 64 plants in a flood tray on 8" risers because you want to save your big bud. Go ahead my 420. Plus I saw you pouring battery acid on your plants while listening to lady gaga. I just can't take anything serious from someone who did that.

 

[Serapis]

I'm not a rookie and I say don;t top when you are 30 days into flowering..... I'd rather pinch and bend the offending stem over, keeping the bud growing and at a lower level....

Your advice is counter-productive.... while it may be safe as you put it, I'm sure not going to cut my apical stem and lose the dominant flower when I can just pinch and bend the stem over....

yes you can top your plant. you will be losing a bud site however, all of the energy that would have gone to that bud's production will now be sent to the rest of your remaining flowers. Many people will not top a plant in flower because of personal preference. I have had to take a top off because of space issues back when i first started growing. I still had a great yield. Any rookie will tell you not to do it because they don't understand sometimes you have to make a sacrafice if the conditions call for it. They soon will learn. You are perfectly safe taking a top off of your plant at any point in time in your plants life period.

 

[My420]

Have fan putting 64 plants in a flood tray on 8" risers because you want to save your big bud. Go ahead my 420. Plus I saw you pouring battery acid on your plants while listening to lady gaga. I just can't take anything serious from someone who did that.

DUDE also with someone who has quotes like this I would not ever talk shit if I were you.. and anyone who cuts a top off instead of bending it or LST it is a moron straight up. SO here are your dumbest quotes I have found.

“”iether finish them in your 5 gallons or get another hps light and transplant to 10 gal (40l). transplantng will add another month to your bloom”” Where the hell do you get your info from?? And also WTF is this statement that was in response to this question?
I find I have to leave humidity dome on clones for ages like 2 weeks takes me to 10 to 14 days to get them rooted but have about 95% success rate cant figure out how people get roots in 3 or 4 days.
Then you respond with this
“a good light source and heat. 85-95 degrees. and good cutting techniques”
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?? Just on this one anything over 85 degrees actually lowers the Photosynthesis curve actually causing the cell structure to break down and this could cause your water to get the same tep.. Up to 95???? LOL
Also saying things like


And “”Yellowing browing and spotting are typical in late harvest. Your plant simply doesnt need some of its bigger fan leaves during fruiting”” Which you should NEVER cut anything off that helps with photosynthesis EVER. PERIOD. Unless they are brown and yellow and dying never take off.

and

“”the more generations you clone the more your plants have a tendency to herm””

LOL maybe you should stop giving grow advice since you do not know sh*t about it and just keep giving advice you know like where to get a fan or how to wire it since that is the only thing you seem to know anything about Mr. Hydro.

 

[1oldgoat]

yes you can top your plant. you will be losing a bud site however, all of the energy that would have gone to that bud's production will now be sent to the rest of your remaining flowers. Many people will not top a plant in flower because of personal preference. I have had to take a top off because of space issues back when i first started growing. I still had a great yield. Any rookie will tell you not to do it because they don't understand sometimes you have to make a sacrafice if the conditions call for it. They soon will learn. You are perfectly safe taking a top off of your plant at any point in time in your plants life period.

Finally some one that knows what he's talking about! Take the top off and the rest of the plant will receive a boost in auxin production and your other buds will benefit. You should really find out teh problem you're having tho.

 

[1oldgoat]

I'm not a rookie and I say don;t top when you are 30 days into flowering..... I'd rather pinch and bend the offending stem over, keeping the bud growing and at a lower level....

Your advice is counter-productive.... while it may be safe as you put it, I'm sure not going to cut my apical stem and lose the dominant flower when I can just pinch and bend the stem over....

From the sounds of it, the plant has no leafs on it, therefore little food production. Topping it at this stage will not do anymore harm than what has been done to it thus far. Hack away I say.

 

[kbo ca]

I'm not a rookie and I say don;t top when you are 30 days into flowering..... I'd rather pinch and bend the offending stem over, keeping the bud growing and at a lower level....

Your advice is counter-productive.... while it may be safe as you put it, I'm sure not going to cut my apical stem and lose the dominant flower when I can just pinch and bend the stem over....

You must have never been in this type of situation. I respect your opinion though. pinching or bending the stem is going to stress the plant out anyway. Sometimes space issues don't allow for a simple bend or pinch. I'm glad you haven't had to deal with this kind of situation. Good job!

 

[TheLastWood]

Finally some one that knows what he's talking about! Take the top off and the rest of the plant will receive a boost in auxin production and your other buds will benefit. You should really find out teh problem you're having tho.

Aren't auxins bad in flowering and cause the plant to not ripen. I thought that's why you aren't supposed to use superthrive in flowering.

 

[My420]

Aren't auxins bad in flowering and cause the plant to not ripen. I thought that's why you aren't supposed to use superthrive in flowering.

Here is a in detail break down of Auxins and I hope this helps you or at least gives you an idea of what to do.

I can not stress enough the importance of this word. Auxins, as defined in the science world are a type of plant growth hormone. In marijuana, they are the most import hormone when it comes to vegetative growth. In an untrained, regular marijuana plant, the auxins are most heavily distributed to the top/uppermost growth. The plant identifies this growth as its top and strives to grow it up towards the light more than the other lower growths. This is where LST comes into play. When you bend a plants top growth over, the plant identifies that it's top growth is no longer growing up, and it works to gain a new top growth. In essence, the auxins spread throughout your whole plant and this creates new growth along your nodes that have the potential to be equal to a "top bud or cola". I can also post an example and explanation of how LST is done in a simple manner.

 

[1oldgoat]

Here is a in detail break down of Auxins and I hope this helps you or at least gives you an idea of what to do.

I can not stress enough the importance of this word. Auxins, as defined in the science world are a type of plant growth hormone. In marijuana, they are the most import hormone when it comes to vegetative growth. In an untrained, regular marijuana plant, the auxins are most heavily distributed to the top/uppermost growth. The plant identifies this growth as its top and strives to grow it up towards the light more than the other lower growths. This is where LST comes into play. When you bend a plants top growth over, the plant identifies that it's top growth is no longer growing up, and it works to gain a new top growth. In essence, the auxins spread throughout your whole plant and this creates new growth along your nodes that have the potential to be equal to a "top bud or cola". I can also post an example and explanation of how LST is done in a simple manner.

My420. I appreciate the explanation of auxins, BUT, you should really give credit to the authors of your paragraph and use quotation marks.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/369528-low-stress-training-lst-guide.html

 

[hoagtech]

That was just a great response man especially the battery acid part. LOL....... Now where are your pictures of your grow? Oh wait.... You do not have any even after saying you will post some. Either you took them down because you killed them and did not want people to see it or you can not get to your "" Friends House"" to take the pictures. Anyways anyone who cuts off a top bud just because they do not have room is just losing yield plus the best cola on the plant on top of that you are also slowing down the plants growth because it has to now recover from being topped. But I would not expect someone of your IQ to know that especially with the battery acid comment since I am guessing that is the best you could do and please with quotes like this
"" It depends. I chop bud tops if their bigger than the other and I can't lower my reflector. It's just math. Give one plant light or chop it down and give 4 plant lots of light?""
You make yourself look stupid on your own. DO some research man for crying out loud sheesh.

I am glad to hear you say sorry about pouring battery acid on your plants. although it the plants you should be apologizing to.

And If you wanna dig it up. I got my mother harvest from last year still on here. But I have a good job and a responisibility to my customers to keep my store here and not shut down so I will be posting pictures of peppers and avocados until i feel like it. But hey dig it up.. Cus your plants look like leafy yellow garbage. Ill give it to you with your Lst rose buckets but go ahead and compare your scraggly garbage to my mother. here ill post a pic to feed your need though.
Once again your plants look like autumn leaves with no fruit in between them. Im dying to see them again.
And he 30 days into bloom, hes way better off cutting a top and getting his lights closer to his whole crop, or at least pull it and put under its own. But you know better. Im sure your talented though. it looks like Picaso drew your avatar. You got any tipS!? Any Tips man??