Raspberry Cough DWC Grow

Niko Bellick

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5/10/11 UPDATE: Okay so some of you are going to tell me I'm an Idiot for doing it but I have my reasoning. If you've been following this thread then you know I have four plants one of which is a runt. The runt in question as of last night still had zero trichome development (at least visibly) and the plan was to harvest it with the rest and turn the whole plant into hash or cannabutter. you could make the argument that I should just leave it and give it time to mature while still harvesting the others. Having no real way to seclude that plant to its own res so as to flush the other three or another place to continue flowering it while they go through three days of dark and then all that drying time....I decided last night to cut her down early let her dry abit over night trim up all the bud leaves popcorn buds and the main cola and make Canna Butter as that does not require a dry or cure.

So as I type this I have the whole mix on the stove simmering for two hours etc and tonight I'm going to make some cookies out of the batch eat a steak and hopefully enjoy a nice long soaring high.
I used approximately 16 grams of bud and shake to a stick and a half of butter ( if its too strong I'll add another half stick) that should be good to make a dozen or less chocolate chip cookies. Y'all tell me what you think.
 

slathe

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You should be fffff ^^^^ ed up my friend.

Though it's better to dry it out first so you can then throw it in a coffee grinder to get it to almost like powder.... That way there is a lot more surface area to come into contact with the fats and oils helping them to get to every last bit of THC and CBD's and speeding up the process a bit as well. Not that you should cook it less... ;)
 

Niko Bellick

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You should be fffff ^^^^ ed up my friend.

Though it's better to dry it out first so you can then throw it in a coffee grinder to get it to almost like powder.... That way there is a lot more surface area to come into contact with the fats and oils helping them to get to every last bit of THC and CBD's and speeding up the process a bit as well. Not that you should cook it less... ;)
Welcome to my grow slathe. Just finished simmering it all for two hours and strained it, licked my fingers when I was done and besides tasting amazing I have a miniscule buz going. I was wondering if the CBD'S where fat soluble? I figure 16 grams of fat buds and shake ( I added more) to a stick and a half of butter should make it fairly concentrated. If this turns out great then I'm definitely making more when I harvest.
 

LunaSetti

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CBD is soluble in fats, so don't worry both your THC and CBD will be there (THC and CBD have the same molecular formulas but slightly different masses). And I agree with Slathe, you are going to the moon my friend. I use typically 4oz of fan leaves to one stick OR 1/8 to 1/4 oz of bud... You can use oils, shortening, butters, etc, as long as it has a high fat content. Kinda like oil and water don't mix kind of deal. THC and CBD are very high in hydro-carbon chains, so as long as you dissolve them in similar compounds you are good. You'll love cooking with it!! And you can use vegetable oil or butter and fill empty gel caps you can get at health food stores (canna caps! :-))

My suggestion about auto flowers was just because they are fast finishing, yes you would either have to pull the males or allow them to pollenate. I'm not a fan of femmed seed, so pulling males isn't a big deal for me. The time and energy you put into cloning, it may be easier to have some slightly seeded bud. Seeds don't bother me, I prefer them. LOL.
 

Niko Bellick

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CBD is soluble in fats, so don't worry both your THC and CBD will be there (THC and CBD have the same molecular formulas but slightly different masses). And I agree with Slathe, you are going to the moon my friend. I use typically 4oz of fan leaves to one stick OR 1/8 to 1/4 oz of bud... You can use oils, shortening, butters, etc, as long as it has a high fat content. Kinda like oil and water don't mix kind of deal. THC and CBD are very high in hydro-carbon chains, so as long as you dissolve them in similar compounds you are good. You'll love cooking with it!! And you can use vegetable oil or butter and fill empty gel caps you can get at health food stores (canna caps! :-))

My suggestion about auto flowers was just because they are fast finishing, yes you would either have to pull the males or allow them to pollenate. I'm not a fan of femmed seed, so pulling males isn't a big deal for me. The time and energy you put into cloning, it may be easier to have some slightly seeded bud. Seeds don't bother me, I prefer them. LOL.
Ahhh dude I must be stoned I was looking at the forums and saw my title with your name under it(because you commented last) and thought wtf did luna copy me? lol. thanks for dropping all this knowledge on me bro.
I loved the autoflowers I had but I also like the idea of being able to have a mother of the phenotype I want of a particular strain and make an exact copy of it rather than a diff pheno every time. Though I think the autoflowers would be a great addition for quick variety to the lineup so I'm gonna see if they over pick and mix in the autoflowers.

Careful now with the seeded bud comment lol the pot snobs will hang you for saying that haha.
 

Niko Bellick

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Does anyone have any experience with when the main colas pistil begin to turn from white to a diff color? I ask because forty something days into flower and the lower buds on all the girls have about 50 percent burnt orange hairs (friggin beautiful) while the main colas are say 10 percent turned. the bigger the bud the longer the maturation is my guess.

Otherwise they are drinking up the nutes and the sugar leaves on some are almost so covered in crystal that you cant see the green!
 

LunaSetti

Member
Hey Niko just wanted to let you know my light system came yesterday from Flora... Anywho, they shipped me a LUMATEK ballast! SOOOO worth the price. The reflector is what you'd expect, a cheap piece of bendable metal... Nothing more, it is made from hydrofarm and the socket set is also hydrofarm, the ballast a Lumatek and the bulb a generic... I was expecting some piece of crap off-brand ballast. The set rocks!
 

David N.

Member
When I make butter I use a simple recipe, works overtime. I use a crockpit so no tending to it while it cooks. I add 5 lbs of butter to the pot let it melt down to liquid. Add enough fan leave and stems to fill the pot up. As for exact amount I can't say just fill the cockpit. Then fill the pot the rest of the way with water. Simmer on low setting for 24 hours. Then take out plant matter and wrap in cheese cloth. Ring out plant matter until all butter and water is extracted and do this over a big tupperware. You may wanna buy a cheap set of 5 at Walmart just for this purpose. After filling all tupperware or emptying the crockpot put them all into your freezer. Once frozen the water and butter will separate into two distinct parts. At this point your good to go. I find the process a pita so that is why I do 5lbs at a time. Then you have enough butter for weeks or months. Good luck and get cookin!
 

Niko Bellick

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Hey Niko just wanted to let you know my light system came yesterday from Flora... Anywho, they shipped me a LUMATEK ballast! SOOOO worth the price. The reflector is what you'd expect, a cheap piece of bendable metal... Nothing more, it is made from hydrofarm and the socket set is also hydrofarm, the ballast a Lumatek and the bulb a generic... I was expecting some piece of crap off-brand ballast. The set rocks!
Dude thats pretty sweet actually. what wattage was it again? Lucky ass getting the lumatek lol. You going to get an air cooled reflector ?
 

Niko Bellick

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When I make butter I use a simple recipe, works overtime. I use a crockpit so no tending to it while it cooks. I add 5 lbs of butter to the pot let it melt down to liquid. Add enough fan leave and stems to fill the pot up. As for exact amount I can't say just fill the cockpit. Then fill the pot the rest of the way with water. Simmer on low setting for 24 hours. Then take out plant matter and wrap in cheese cloth. Ring out plant matter until all butter and water is extracted and do this over a big tupperware. You may wanna buy a cheap set of 5 at Walmart just for this purpose. After filling all tupperware or emptying the crockpot put them all into your freezer. Once frozen the water and butter will separate into two distinct parts. At this point your good to go. I find the process a pita so that is why I do 5lbs at a time. Then you have enough butter for weeks or months. Good luck and get cookin!
Dude, have you ever tried it with fresh cutt buds and leaves that have had no time to dry or cure? Cuz I did and you could taste the chlorophyll ALOT. Dunno how the potency was, ate about four cookies and was getting a buzz ten minutes in but after thirty it put me to sleep lol. Gonna try the next batch with a crock pot like you said but with the trimmings from the mature buds instead of my runty no thc producing ass plant. how much water do you use?
 

David N.

Member
No, I have only used dried cured plant matter. Zero chlorophil taste. If I had to guess maybe a gallon of water. But, I would worry less about amount and just use as much plant matter as you have. I might say I use a brown paperbag from grocery store full of plant matter with 5lbs of butter and one gallon of water. The ratio isn't key just make sure you have enough water so it can evaporate during cooking and not burn the butter.

Hope that helps!
 

Niko Bellick

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No, I have only used dried cured plant matter. Zero chlorophil taste. If I had to guess maybe a gallon of water. But, I would worry less about amount and just use as much plant matter as you have. I might say I use a brown paperbag from grocery store full of plant matter with 5lbs of butter and one gallon of water. The ratio isn't key just make sure you have enough water so it can evaporate during cooking and not burn the butter.

Hope that helps!
tried them again today and the taste is gone taste just like a cookie. getting a nice high as well. thanks for the help bro
 

David N.

Member
Btw I am also doing the RBC that will go into a bucket tonight that's partly why I've been following your thread. Keep up the good work!
 

Niko Bellick

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Btw I am also doing the RBC that will go into a bucket tonight that's partly why I've been following your thread. Keep up the good work!
Just a suggestion but with mine I found that they fair best with light nutes then gradually up to normal strength. they're sensitive, little to much or not enough and youll know real quick. looking good what strain and light in the pic? did you top em yet?
 

Niko Bellick

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Jock, ppp and citral in pic for strains, t-5 light with 8 four foot bulbs. Turning on Gorilla tonight! Game on.
dude, I'm feeling the cookies i made and my internet is slow cuz of rain. wth is gorilla? led? And I'm starting to like T-5 lights for there efficiency. I have the eight bulb two footer.
 

LunaSetti

Member
Dude thats pretty sweet actually. what wattage was it again? Lucky ass getting the lumatek lol. You going to get an air cooled reflector ?
600w The 400w was only 135. I like this b/c I can run at 250w, 400w, 600w OR a feature called 'super lumens' which uses the digital tech to give you 10-20% more lumens than a mag would give you from the 600. I start at 400w for the first hour lights are on then crank to 600. I had a really bad experience using a cool tube, and I've got it set up open air, so I don't think I'm going to use an air cooled reflector, my temps are the same without it - go figure.

Back to the butter - I ALWAYS use fresh fan leaf and bud. I never cure it or dry it for cooking, and have never had a bad result. Sounds like yours worked like a charm. LOL. Good for you man!
 

Niko Bellick

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600w The 400w was only 135. I like this b/c I can run at 250w, 400w, 600w OR a feature called 'super lumens' which uses the digital tech to give you 10-20% more lumens than a mag would give you from the 600. I start at 400w for the first hour lights are on then crank to 600. I had a really bad experience using a cool tube, and I've got it set up open air, so I don't think I'm going to use an air cooled reflector, my temps are the same without it - go figure.

Back to the butter - I ALWAYS use fresh fan leaf and bud. I never cure it or dry it for cooking, and have never had a bad result. Sounds like yours worked like a charm. LOL. Good for you man!
Dude, We were both high and didn't even realize it. very peaceful and productive high. we ate six cookies apiece i still feel really relaxed haha. and thats a badass light. wish I could control temps with an open aired reflector lol. aghh off to work.
 
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