First Official Indoor Grow All Out!

mrmaddu

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So no pics update but i transplanted some of the small clones into 12 inch pots dont know what size that equals but its what i got i have 6 plants in a 3x3 could that work while using lst traning and no screen or maybe a partial screen? well i watered with lucas formula 623 ppm 6.5 ph to the plants and the runoff was 5.83 is that good not really sure? but i also did a res change on the dwc bubba kush it is lucas formula gh with floralicious at 1010ppm and 5.87 ph.......i think that may be alittle high on the ppm but just trying it and also added 6 tablespoons of 3 percent h202 for some brown slime i had and washed off....just had to try something...give me some help
 

4tatude

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So no pics update but i transplanted some of the small clones into 12 inch pots dont know what size that equals but its what i got i have 6 plants in a 3x3 could that work while using lst traning and no screen or maybe a partial screen? well i watered with lucas formula 623 ppm 6.5 ph to the plants and the runoff was 5.83 is that good not really sure? but i also did a res change on the dwc bubba kush it is lucas formula gh with floralicious at 1010ppm and 5.87 ph.......i think that may be alittle high on the ppm but just trying it and also added 6 tablespoons of 3 percent h202 for some brown slime i had and washed off....just had to try something...give me some help
mrmaddu
the 6 in a 3x3 will be fine, of course depending on veg size.
ill look up my soil chart and post it on here for you in a bit.
the 1010ppms is going to be too high so drop it to the 800 or below range or you will start experiencing lock outs and the plants will be hard to get back on track. time wasted..
the 3% is kinda weak but 3tbs will help, i like the 25% personally but be carefull itl burn you. i use 2.5ml per gallon every week in res.
the ph is perf for hydro @5.8 but i let mine swing from 5.5 to 6.2 or so for a more balanced nute uptake throughout the spectrum.
ill go now and cut n paste you a great chart that e4xplains uptake n ph in soil and hydro, makes so much sense once you see it...
 

mrmaddu

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Hey i have just one question about the soil ph.....if 6.5 is perfect is that going in the soil or is that the runoff.....i have been adjusting my ph to 6.5 going in and it comes out around 5.5 to 5.8 i was guessing but thinking that since that is perfect for hydro with no buffers that the runoff being in that range was a good thing since the soil buffers some????? Is that right? or have i lost my mind. also is the lucas formula what you would recommend maybe with floralicious plus added or what would you do with the gh flora series three part?????
 

mrmaddu

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oh yea i would give a +rep but i gotta spread the love more....oh well i will get ya when i can thanks
 

4tatude

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Hey i have just one question about the soil ph.....if 6.5 is perfect is that going in the soil or is that the runoff.....i have been adjusting my ph to 6.5 going in and it comes out around 5.5 to 5.8 i was guessing but thinking that since that is perfect for hydro with no buffers that the runoff being in that range was a good thing since the soil buffers some????? Is that right? or have i lost my mind. also is the lucas formula what you would recommend maybe with floralicious plus added or what would you do with the gh flora series three part?????
thats fine, soil is so forgiving unlss you over fertilize. the ph range of 6.5 is perf, you can also flush with 2x container volume with tap water or whatever without worring about ph the 1x volume with 6.5, let it runn off a while then do a nute feeding of 1/4-1/2 volume after it quits draining and you will see tremendous growth. you gota have some good draining media mix if you do it this way or you will drown the plants.
never usde the lucas formula, ill read up a little and see if i can make a recomendation.
do you have your complete nute regemine in any previous post? if you do cut n paste if not post one so i can see what u got.
 

mrmaddu

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I have the three part flora series, floralicious plus, kool bloom dry and liquid, and atami bloombastic....so i have different stuff to play with...also my soil is fox farm ocean forest and lightwarrior blended...added lime, bone meal, blood meal, and episom salt. dont really have use nutes but the growth is a lot better when i do......but actually looking like i maybe might need some nitrogen....a few of the lower leaves are like bleaching out kinda yellowish.....or bleached but not from too much light and it could possibly be light deficiency.....just the lower stuff....when i get outta the hospital i will give some pics....hopefully they wont be dead....also we are going to make the 12/12 switch when i get outta here.
 

4tatude

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I have the three part flora series, floralicious plus, kool bloom dry and liquid, and atami bloombastic....so i have different stuff to play with...also my soil is fox farm ocean forest and lightwarrior blended...added lime, bone meal, blood meal, and episom salt. dont really have use nutes but the growth is a lot better when i do......but actually looking like i maybe might need some nitrogen....a few of the lower leaves are like bleaching out kinda yellowish.....or bleached but not from too much light and it could possibly be light deficiency.....just the lower stuff....when i get outta the hospital i will give some pics....hopefully they wont be dead....also we are going to make the 12/12 switch when i get outta here.
the yellowing leaves sound like spent leaves, just used up their usefulness and plant is finished with them. the fp is high in n so if you need some add that but sparingly or it will burn them. the kb dry is much stronger than the liquid so same warning, less is better, they both are high in p and k. the boombastic serves the same purpose as the kb so dont6 use both at the same time. at flip id use a weak formula of fp and the kb liquid for the 1st 2 weeks then 2 more weeks cutting the fp back and upping the kb. the fp will provide the n needed during the first phase of flowering then they will need more p and k, thats where the kb or boombastic come in. but they will need a little n all the way through.
hope that helps rather than complicates things. always remember less is better... you can always add more but you cant take it out once you get it in.
 

4tatude

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looking forward to the pics, im sure they are fine.hope your recovery is speedy n your back home soon
 

mrmaddu

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Yea i am fine but i have a 5 month old daughter who has had 3 open heart surgeries and then 2 heart caths but dont know when i will be home it sucks i am about 3 hours away and thinking of driving home to water and then coming back to the hospital.....but when you say use the fp and kb i shouldnt use any of the gh flora stuff??? ihave been using a lower ppm in the soil...up afew post the 1010 ppm was the dwc...so but i have been running the soil around 650 ppm but any guidance been thinking about getting some great white....i have the cash and everything just wondering would it help to inoculate the soil this late...when i get home i am flipping to 12/12. I know that it works but people use it usually when they transplant....
 

4tatude

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Yea i am fine but i have a 5 month old daughter who has had 3 open heart surgeries and then 2 heart caths but dont know when i will be home it sucks i am about 3 hours away and thinking of driving home to water and then coming back to the hospital.....but when you say use the fp and kb i shouldnt use any of the gh flora stuff??? ihave been using a lower ppm in the soil...up afew post the 1010 ppm was the dwc...so but i have been running the soil around 650 ppm but any guidance been thinking about getting some great white....i have the cash and everything just wondering would it help to inoculate the soil this late...when i get home i am flipping to 12/12. I know that it works but people use it usually when they transplant....
sorry to hear your daughter is having problems, hope it gets ironed out n alls well soon. having a sick child is one of the most helpless feelings ive ever experienced.
you can use the flora, the fp does mostly the same thing, just make sure the nitrogen balance is not too high when using both. its ok to be high jn early veg cause the plant needs lots of n during veg. just playwith it n your plants will tell you what they like, but thats hard to do if your not there so id error on the safe side.
grerat white is good any time, i use it in soil and hydro. they say its great forstarting clones too as it promotes roots but i havent used it at the start just after roots pop. its part of my regemin and believe in it. not really pricey considering how far it goes. use it in each watering in weak dose to keep healthy strain active as they die off over time.
im by far no expert, ive limited experience in the mmj arena but have extensive exp in gardening on a whole. it all applies to the same principal of balancing the NPK at the proper times.
 

mrmaddu

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Yea its is rough going through this with her...been in the hospital almost since she was 14 days old...she comes home for a few days here and there and then she has been home for about the last 2 months before this last trip but she seems to be doing ok...they were going to send us to Annarbor for a surgery but now they are just gonna do it in nashville.....which is about 6 hours closer but still 3 hours from home.........but i am going to go find some great white while i am in a town with 2 hydro stores usually have to drive and hour one way.....but goin shopping.....any other stuff i should add to my arsenal that works....you know what i am working with....
 

4tatude

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Yea its is rough going through this with her...been in the hospital almost since she was 14 days old...she comes home for a few days here and there and then she has been home for about the last 2 months before this last trip but she seems to be doing ok...they were going to send us to Annarbor for a surgery but now they are just gonna do it in nashville.....which is about 6 hours closer but still 3 hours from home.........but i am going to go find some great white while i am in a town with 2 hydro stores usually have to drive and hour one way.....but goin shopping.....any other stuff i should add to my arsenal that works....you know what i am working with....
silica blast and aqua shield, i recomend to have for both soil and hydro. do a look up n read a bit you will see they are a great addition to your arsonal. along with great white, sweet, and h2o2 in the 32% mix. that is all i have other than the nutes i run and am very satisfied with the results. the great white is like 30 bucks for a small jar, and you can get both the aqua shield and silica blast for 15 or so each. well worth the $ in my oppinion.
You can go crazy chasing the elusive oz with nutes. bottom line is find a few and stick with them if they work. all my addatives, meeters, measuring cups etc is in a convenient tote. makes for easy mixing and storage.
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mrmaddu

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well just got outta worms way i got great white and h202 29 percent...(highest they had)...but didnt get your post in time for aquashield and silica blast.....what are the benefits for the silica blast just flexible stems???? and no clue on aquashield???? but got some 3 gal smart pots...didnt realize my pots were huge compared to those.....i have some post from walmart that are 12" pots...hold 42 cups of soil....oops....think i should transplant down? or just grow out and use the smart pots for the next grow?
 

4tatude

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Home>>Supplements>>Silica Blast

Silica Blast is a beneficial nutrient supplement to be used in conjunction with Botanicare nutrients or your preferred standard nutrient program. It strengthens your plants stems and stabilizes the pH in recirculating hydrogardens. Silica Blast is ideal for use in container gardening or soilless hydrogardening applications. The silicate in Silica Blast encourages the formation of a silicate matrix which reduces transpiration and may allow plants to continue
photosynthesis in adverse growing conditions.
 

4tatude

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Home>>Supplements>>AquaShield

AquaShield™ Water Treatment Solution is useful throughout a plants life cycle in soil gardens, and hydrogardens utilizing aeroponics, deep water culture, ebb and flow, and top water drip. Use AquaShield™ to create a natural and beneficial growing environment. AquaShield™ will assist in strengthening your clones root masses and offers the best chance of survival when transplanting. AquaShield™ also benefits mature plants by maintaining a healthy root zone for optimum plant performance.
 

mrmaddu

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Well as always..needing some help and want to give update.....went to 12/12 on last thursday so been in flower for 7 days now...i have been in the hospital since that but got home last night and my big bubba kush and my big ww was wilted badly but i watered and trimmed the obviously dead stuff off and it perked up in a coupld hours after getting watered i really thought that they werent gonna make it. but i have some slime on my roots in the dwc and i got some great white myco and some 29% h202 and its not on all the roots but pretty bad just wondering if anyone had suggestions and the h2o2 says to put in res every 3 days so just wondering if that is right or i should do it more for how bad it is.....but enough talk heres some pics...oh yea the ww is showing sex already i know it is a female since its a clone from last years plant revegged but i am not sure on the big bubba kush as it hasnt shown yet...but its feminized seed so not scared.....when should i cut clones?? this week sometime? i have heard 2 weeks in to flower???but might got perpetual....also should i go buy a hps seeing how i am running the hortilux blue that has a stong blue and red spectrum but less lumens than some hps...dont really have the funds but might could come up with them....gonna add in some t5 side lighting this week i have 4 t5 2 foot tubes and a 4 bulb t5 2 footer i can throw in there and even 2 65 watt cfls if need be.....just wondering when thinking about a week or so. also how long before i lollipop or trim some lower stuff off should i wait till i see pistils forming on the lower parts of branches and then it is about a 1/3 up if i remember correctly.....any help is greatly appreciated thanks for looking....plus rep for help need it back too.
 
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