yea ill give it a try red, i just dont want to snap anything, sense this is my first indoor grow i guess im kinda babying them cuz idk lol, but they have never shown one sign of stress, or nute burn, this is one of the sturdiest plants i have ever come across, i could chop this thing into pieces and it would prolly just come back with gloves on eady to fight lol, but anyways i will have pics shortly lights come on in 8 minutes >.<