Stealth Cabinets
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lapperll
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2 of my plants have gone really droopy and the leaves are going a weird shape and twisting, im hoping its just stress as the one had a load of roots ripped off it so i expected a problem with that anyway but im not sure whats wrong with the other one
I have taken some water out of each of the buckets incase i had them to full, i hope they will be ok, its like all of a sudden the stems have gone really soft.
Just a shot in the dark, but what was the temperature of your nute solution when you transplanted? I have made the mistake of my water being too cold when I've done a nute change and my girls wilted almost straight away. Just a thought.
Plants are looking good. Keep up the good work.
Lapper
Im not sure dude but the thought crossed my mind also. I dont understand it though as two of the plants are fine. I know i def yanked a load of roots out of the runt plant. They seem a little worse now, im not going to panic yet but i think ill lose at least one of my ladies
I need to be alot more carefull next time. Maybe i should have just done 2 plants in each cab to start with so i got used to it. Im also struggling to get to the back plants to check ph etc, im wondering if i shoulndt next time do just 2 plants but make them beasts!!! What do you rekon stealthy? Could i yeild the same from 2 plants as 4?
stelthy
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(^ MUCH SMALLER about 2cm long)
I cant understand why the PH keeps changing so much.. I've never had this problem ?? on a seperate note.. Maybe if you/we put connector's at the bottom of the air-lines we can just detach the airline and move the whole bucket into the Flowering cab so as not to harm the roots.. I'll post a pic of the connectors shortly
they are real cheap and available at most Aquatics stores... I am confident this will save you hassle in the future.Its good you have this thread cos you can use it as reference for your next grow.. If you document everything each time you do a grow and take note each time..Before you know it you'll be a connoisseur
I hope you gain control over your PH, Maybe start a separate thread on 'Best ways to control PH - Long term' and use it just to get the best answer and report back with your findings and paste a LINK so we can all see whats said etc
Hope that helps mate - STELTHY 
It seems to be ok now im not sure what the problem was. Ill check on the plants when i get back from work later but i think unless the 2 drooping ones make a fast and dramatic recovery they may be finished, they seemed to get worse yesterday and all the leaves are starting to go crispy
Connectors sound ok mate but i would still have to take them out of the buckets for res change. I got the misses to help me with the last 2 plants and they seem fine so i can do that next time and even if i do lose 2 plants ive learned a good lesson.
Do you think if i switched to 2 plants per cab i could yeild the same as 4? In other words will 2 big plants yeild the same as 4 smaller plants?
Connectors sound ok mate but i would still have to take them out of the buckets for res change. I got the misses to help me with the last 2 plants and they seem fine so i can do that next time and even if i do lose 2 plants ive learned a good lesson.
Do you think if i switched to 2 plants per cab i could yeild the same as 4? In other words will 2 big plants yeild the same as 4 smaller plants?
stelthy
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Hi dude, Take a reading of your Res. Temps they should be between 15oC and 20oc no higher, no lower, Any-lower and optimum growth levels will slow, and any higher and mould will become an issue.
If your reading is between 15oC and 20oC then you are on track but if you are outside of those parameter's there are things you can do ie, small water heater's meant for tiny fish-tanks and you can also get water coolers but this will be more expensive. I doubt you'll need coolers as your using LED's but post the Temp. readings in each cab that would help..
The chances are its not the temp of your Res. or room thats slowing the plants but my answer is 99% pointing at 'root-damage' the plant will stress over this and could do 1 of a few things ie: Hermie, Die, slow to a near stand still, but if it does pull through it may just be stunted..So expect the yeild to be effected. Make sure you stabilize the PH, cut off any dead leaves, and if its just the tips of leaves are burn't/dead/dying cut them off flat at the ends and take away the problem area.. this will also effect growth rate, but providing you treat them with upmost respect and care for food and PH levels then you should be able to get them to recover and still do fairly well upon harvest.. I hope thats helpful to ya..
Ps/ the pics look good on your next update, if you could take a few shots with the lights on and a few shots with the lights off (so I/we can see the colour of the leaves etc etc)
By topping them late really increases the size of the plant doesn't it you'll really start to notice the benefit of this once the bud production excellerates
Could you post a pic of the lower stems..thickness and the rockwool cube (lights off), do you you have any salt build up? speak soon - STELTHY
If your reading is between 15oC and 20oC then you are on track but if you are outside of those parameter's there are things you can do ie, small water heater's meant for tiny fish-tanks and you can also get water coolers but this will be more expensive. I doubt you'll need coolers as your using LED's but post the Temp. readings in each cab that would help..
The chances are its not the temp of your Res. or room thats slowing the plants but my answer is 99% pointing at 'root-damage' the plant will stress over this and could do 1 of a few things ie: Hermie, Die, slow to a near stand still, but if it does pull through it may just be stunted..So expect the yeild to be effected. Make sure you stabilize the PH, cut off any dead leaves, and if its just the tips of leaves are burn't/dead/dying cut them off flat at the ends and take away the problem area.. this will also effect growth rate, but providing you treat them with upmost respect and care for food and PH levels then you should be able to get them to recover and still do fairly well upon harvest.. I hope thats helpful to ya..
Ps/ the pics look good
on your next update, if you could take a few shots with the lights on and a few shots with the lights off (so I/we can see the colour of the leaves etc etc) By topping them late really increases the size of the plant doesn't it
you'll really start to notice the benefit of this once the bud production excellerates Could you post a pic of the lower stems..thickness and the rockwool cube (lights off), do you you have any salt build up? speak soon - STELTHY
stelthy
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It seems to be ok now im not sure what the problem was. Ill check on the plants when i get back from work later but i think unless the 2 drooping ones make a fast and dramatic recovery they may be finished, they seemed to get worse yesterday and all the leaves are starting to go crispy
Connectors sound ok mate but i would still have to take them out of the buckets for res change. I got the misses to help me with the last 2 plants and they seem fine so i can do that next time and even if i do lose 2 plants ive learned a good lesson.
Do you think if i switched to 2 plants per cab i could yeild the same as 4? In other words will 2 big plants yeild the same as 4 smaller plants?
I'd wait and see what your LEDs can do 1st with what you have.. You maybe able to yeild just as well with just 2 plants that grow bigger.. But you'd have to wait at least a few more weeks than you have to top them and then another few weeks extra before putting them into Flower.. you can tie the branches apart/down to get maximam light intensity to all the bud sites.. and because the plants branches are tied down the plant/s can grow really big!!
However since we designed your cab to grow 4 plants thats probably what we should do.. I mean 3 plants per cab is a happy medium but I would still be keen to let them grow alot more in Veg before switching to flower.
Also we need to find a way to do your Res. Change without removing the plants from the pots.. whilst your finding it ok to do this at the moment, if you do grow bigger plants it will be much much harder to do this! especially without breaking any bud carrying stems etc etc...
Answering your question though, depending on the quality of the buds your LEDs can produce, you may be able to pull silmerlar yields with 2 big plants as apposed to 4 small/medium ones.. But you would have to VEG > TOP > TIE-DOWN > CONTINUE TO VEG (Until Veg plant is half cabs size with plants stems tied down to their max) then... FLOWER > TRIM > BOOST etc etc - This will allow the 1-2 plants to almost completly fill the cab but you should get buds (main cola's) the size of your arm!!
- STELTHY Ok mate thanks thats given me something to think about. I have just trimmed off all visable dead leaf and adjusted ph so ill leave them now until about this time tomorrow.
The 2 undamaged plants are really looking nice and massive!!! I have raised the lights a little because i think there marking the leaves, its like the lights are sort of taking off the top layer of green on the leaves or something its weird. I cant see what else it maybe plus its only on the tallest plant closest to the light.. The two damaged plants i think are starting to pick up a little
To be honest i think these buckets will be fine, the damage was done because i yanked roots out of the first 2, when my misses helped me do the other two and untangled the roots from around the airline for me they have turned out great As i say i may suffer this time but i have learned a good lesson.
The 2 undamaged plants are really looking nice and massive!!! I have raised the lights a little because i think there marking the leaves, its like the lights are sort of taking off the top layer of green on the leaves or something its weird. I cant see what else it maybe plus its only on the tallest plant closest to the light.. The two damaged plants i think are starting to pick up a little
To be honest i think these buckets will be fine, the damage was done because i yanked roots out of the first 2, when my misses helped me do the other two and untangled the roots from around the airline for me they have turned out great
As i say i may suffer this time but i have learned a good lesson.I forgot to say mate im not gonna risk taking them out of the buckets again, i know its not ideal but im gonna let the buckets empty a bit then top up with ph balanced water and add pk 4/10. If ec is to high ill add more water or to low ill add a small amount of 4 x strength solution until it gets to the right amount.
I just think its better all round and i wont have to risk damaging the plants again.
I just think its better all round and i wont have to risk damaging the plants again.
Everything is looking good The plants that were close to death are now picking up nicely and seem way more healthy Ill get some pics taken saturday and that will give everyone a good idea of what a week in flower has achieved.
My new seeds came today so i think ill try and start them off next week and that will giove me 7-8 weeks to get them a good size.
The plants that were close to death are now picking up nicely and seem way more healthy Ill get some pics taken saturday and that will give everyone a good idea of what a week in flower has achieved.My new seeds came today so i think ill try and start them off next week and that will giove me 7-8 weeks to get them a good size.
stelthy
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It could be a problem later in flower, You could either turn you in-line fans up a notch (If you can). Or you could get a cheap-ish dehumidifier I bought one for 50 notes @ B&Q this will really help lower the humidity, and you can put it on a timer so it comes on.. say 5 Mins before lights off and stays on until ..5 mins after the lights come back on again
Its defo worth the money..it also comes in handy against mould in your actal room.. and it helps when your drying your buds too.. If your interested I'll look into some for ya? !! - STELTHY
stelthy
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I'll search for a pic shortly.. If you just follow the CANNA guide, and bare in mind the you can extend each period slightly by a week or so depending on strain, Its a good idea to make notes of dates and times so you can be sure to change your nuits on time for each new period the plant goes through before reaching a harvest date. - STELTHY
Cheers mate, i have looked but i think another opinion would be better as i havent done this before. Ill take some pics tomorrow just before the lights come on. They are getting bigger for sure and i cant believe those plants i fucked up are looking rather good now lol. Im amazed i really thought they were both dying.
Canna guide says 1-2 weeks for this stage so i think ill leave them a bit longer as i cant see any pistals yet.
Canna guide says 1-2 weeks for this stage so i think ill leave them a bit longer as i cant see any pistals yet.
A few update pics in natural light. I have just discovered for some reason i set the timer for the ladies to get 121/4 hours light lol, it doesnt seem to have affected them much.
As for pistels i am taking it there the white hairs you get on buds? If so i cant see any yet so ill leave as they are for another couple of days and see.
Sorry about the quality of the pictures but the cabs nearly take up the whole room so i struggle to get decent pics
As for pistels i am taking it there the white hairs you get on buds? If so i cant see any yet so ill leave as they are for another couple of days and see.
Sorry about the quality of the pictures but the cabs nearly take up the whole room so i struggle to get decent pics
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stelthy
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A few update pics in natural light. I have just discovered for some reason i set the timer for the ladies to get 121/4 hours light lol, it doesnt seem to have affected them much.
As for pistels i am taking it there the white hairs you get on buds? If so i cant see any yet so ill leave as they are for another couple of days and see.
Sorry about the quality of the pictures but the cabs nearly take up the whole room so i struggle to get decent pics
Its looking great in there man!
Yeah the pistols (white hairs) will begin to show soon Job well don sir - STELTHY 
