Just Curious. Why is There No Led Growing Section?

jixan

Active Member
I am curious to know why there is no LED grow sections like there is a CFL growing section. I think that all the journels that have been posted should justify it by know.

What does everyone think? :confused:
 

Jakabok Botch

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I am curious to know why there is no LED grow sections like there is a CFL growing section. I think that all the journels that have been posted should justify it by know.

What does everyone think? :confused:
i think its a good idea...its new to alot of ppl still.....itl be more popular soon tho
 

Jakabok Botch

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i know next paycheck im goin to pick some up....been checkin it out for a while....and itl beat the hell out of my cfls....both in watts and in lumens
 

Icculus

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i know next paycheck im goin to pick some up....been checkin it out for a while....and itl beat the hell out of my cfls....both in watts and in lumens
Nice im thinking about it too. Do you know what model you are interested in buying?
 

MrDank007

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The ones that "work", which is still debatable, are far more pricy than those. Those are the shitty ones everyone gets pissed at
 

jixan

Active Member
I have heard good things about the Blackstar 240 Watt. For the price it is a great panel to start with. BLACKSTAR 240 LINK

I think that this is the panel I will be using for my first grow. Really exited to see what results I can yield from 2-3 plants with this one panel. I have also seen many use it if for both veg/flower.
 

MasterS

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The problem with LED's is the lack of penetration. They have a very good lumen to watt ratio but no depth penetration. There are great high wattage great wavelength LED's. There are many systems on the market and most are scams and a waste of money. There is a bad rap from all these companies producing LED 'growlights' that don't have sufficient wattage, incorrect wavelength, wavelength balance within the light isn't correct due to a lack of research and just making up what appears good to the uninformed buyer. When they become better designed and cheaper, I'm sure many SoG and Lowrider growers will start jumping on board. In the meantime, it isn't very viable for most grow options and the cost isn't worth it for the actual product. You can't compare the yield of an LED light to an HID of the same wattage in any non(SoG/Lowrider). The HID will always out-preform and justify the higher electricity cost/bulb cost/cooling.

As LED's improve and research creates more effective LED grow lights maybe they'll become more viable and more people will jump on board. My problem is LED's are not new technology, they are old and have not progressed very far. They are a great technology but their use in agriculture is limited. I'm more willing to bank on a newer technology surpassing LED than research perfecting its use as an efficient/sustainable grow light.

p.s. NASA using LED's as a grow light is because it is currently the most viable option for their conditions. They aren't growing Cannabis as a cash crop where it's value far surpasses the need to avoid the inefficiency of HID's. I can promise you if NASA were trying to grow cannabis for production here on earth, they'd be using HID's and the like. Not LED's.

Just my 2 cents.
 

billy4479

Moderator
The problem with LED's is the lack of penetration. They have a very good lumen to watt ratio but no depth penetration. There are great high wattage great wavelength LED's. There are many systems on the market and most are scams and a waste of money. There is a bad rap from all these companies producing LED 'growlights' that don't have sufficient wattage, incorrect wavelength, wavelength balance within the light isn't correct due to a lack of research and just making up what appears good to the uninformed buyer. When they become better designed and cheaper, I'm sure many SoG and Lowrider growers will start jumping on board. In the meantime, it isn't very viable for most grow options and the cost isn't worth it for the actual product. You can't compare the yield of an LED light to an HID of the same wattage in any non(SoG/Lowrider). The HID will always out-preform and justify the higher electricity cost/bulb cost/cooling.

As LED's improve and research creates more effective LED grow lights maybe they'll become more viable and more people will jump on board. My problem is LED's are not new technology, they are old and have not progressed very far. They are a great technology but their use in agriculture is limited. I'm more willing to bank on a newer technology surpassing LED than research perfecting its use as an efficient/sustainable grow light.

p.s. NASA using LED's as a grow light is because it is currently the most viable option for their conditions. They aren't growing Cannabis as a cash crop where it's value far surpasses the need to avoid the inefficiency of HID's. I can promise you if NASA were trying to grow cannabis for production here on earth, they'd be using HID's and the like. Not LED's.

Just my 2 cents.
yo where did you hear nasa was using leds id like to find out kind there using
 

DinafemHazeAuto

Active Member
Thats why u have 1 LED for undergrowth..If u put actual true wattage drawn from HID and then have the same amount not(240w but draws 130)if u took 2 of these blackstar units and draw 260w and then take a 250whps prolly draws like 284 u will prolly end up with more bud from the LED...JMO..And buy the time u consider a/c fans, bulb every other grow 80 bucks a pop on average..Just dont compare after u paid for ur LED in its first grow...I currently have QUATUM BALLAST 600W WITH COOL TUBE..Im gonna be getting ride of it soon causes waaaay too much heat...HEADACHE HEAT..and i get pounding migrains anyway...Gonna have 3 blackstars and draw 400w sounds good to me 2 for colas and 1 underneath...But i do like my quatum it just to hot man i guess thats my main issue with HPS..
 
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