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Jack Package

Jack Package

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I have 3 of these girls in 15l air-pots, in biobizz all-mix under a 400mh and they are coming in to 6th week in veg. They were topped using uncle bens 4 main cola topping technique.
I noticed this yellowing of the lower leaves about 6 days ago on one of them. So gave them their first feed 5 days ago of biobizz bio-grow npk of 8-2-6. And fed them yesterday also. These pics were taken this morning. You can see the yellowing of lower leaves, but im not sure why. I thought it might have been nitrogen, but the colour hasnt improved after each feed... Pic on the right is a healthier sister...
Also, although it is heavily indica dominant, is it normal for the fan leaves to be this droopy?
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Thanks for your time.
 
max316420

max316420

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Yellowing at the bottom is normal (lack of light), I would just hit her with a good dose of veg food and you should be fine, those yellow leaves wont turn green again but it should halt it
 
Jack Package

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max316420 said:
Yellowing at the bottom is normal (lack of light), I would just hit her with a good dose of veg food and you should be fine, those yellow leaves wont turn green again but it should halt it
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Thank you for the advice! Next watering, i'll give only the yellowing one nutes. And do you think i might have been little too zealous with the water? Or is that drooping natural enough with the indicas?
 
jawbrodt

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Idk, doesn't sound to me, like overwatering. I'm guessing the opposite, and possibly...low humidity. If you are watering/feeding every 5 days or so, it's pretty impossible that they are overwatered, being that they are pretty good-sized plants. I use about the same size pot, similar-sized plants, with about 25% perlite(a little more than I plan to use from now on), and by the 4th day, mine are drooping, out of moisture. So, being that your's are in smart pots, i doubt it's overwatering, because I would imagine water evaporates from them faster, than a normal pot. I'm more leaning towards them not getting a good soaking when they are watered, leaving areas of soil dry, all the time, particularly the outer edges. Sound possible, or am I way off?


Btw, that drooping isn't normal at all. Needs remedied, for sure.


Also, it's time for feeding, as well, at least once a week, from here on out. If the leaf tips start to burn, then back off to half strength, and go from there.
 
Jack Package

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jawbrodt said:
Idk, doesn't sound to me, like overwatering. I'm guessing the opposite, and possibly...low humidity. If you are watering/feeding every 5 days or so, it's pretty impossible that they are overwatered, being that they are pretty good-sized plants. I use about the same size pot, similar-sized plants, with about 25% perlite(a little more than I plan to use from now on), and by the 4th day, mine are drooping, out of moisture. So, being that your's are in smart pots, i doubt it's overwatering, because I would imagine water evaporates from them faster, than a normal pot. I'm more leaning towards them not getting a good soaking when they are watered, leaving areas of soil dry, all the time, particularly the outer edges. Sound possible, or am I way off?


Btw, that drooping isn't normal at all. Needs remedied, for sure.


Also, it's time for feeding, as well, at least once a week, from here on out. If the leaf tips start to burn, then back off to half strength, and go from there.
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Hey
yeah i think you hit the nail on the head. I think I need to give em a good watering and feeding. I was told to let them wait a while in case it was over-watering, but i do think there might be a dry patch or two in the pots. Would you recommend soaking from the bottom up w/ some detergent added first or feed first and wait?
 
jawbrodt

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Honestly, i think somebody should start manufacturing some mini-watering cans for us growers, the type with the 'sprinkler effect', because i believe alot of issues I see here(at RIU) are from people simply pouring watering in, hoping it soaks evenly. I water mine with 2-liter bottles, in which I took a tiny drill bit, and drilled a bunch of holes in a bottle cap, making my own sprinkler system. Works excellent. Anyway....

....I've never used soap in my medium, but I've heard it can be safe, as long as you use safe soap. Instead, I choose to water in two doses, when I have concern about overly dry soil. I give them about a liter, then wait 20-30 minutes, come back and give them another liter, which is about perfect in my 4 gallon pots. That get's the soil nice and thoroughly soaked. Sometimes I fill the bottom tray before I start, sometimes I don't. Doesn't seem to make any real difference, as long as I add the same amount, overall.

Just remember,..you don't have to worry about giving them too much in one watering. Worst case, you have too much runoff, and have to empty your trays, but that's it. As long as you give 'em at least 2-3 days afterwards, to dry out, you don't have to worry about overwatering.
 
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mchar10

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If your growing in a cooler climate inside your home, this drooping is common. If they were outside, and the weather is hot, the drooping wouldn't be as severe. Just make sure they have adequate lighting, and you should be fine. Maybe trim off some lower groups of leaves, but don't cut it back to much as this will stunt bud development and plant growth.
 
MrGhettoGrower

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I recommend feeding a lot earlier you didn't say what kind of dirt? 6th week veg you feed 1 week ago so you feed at the 5th week. In ffof I only go 1 or maybe 1 1/2 weeks before feeding!
 
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gobskiii

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max is the man. since ive been scoping these forums id have to say he is the most consistant in giving good advice. he knows. listen. i agree with what he said btw.
 
Jack Package

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MrGhettoGrower said:
I recommend feeding a lot earlier you didn't say what kind of dirt? 6th week veg you feed 1 week ago so you feed at the 5th week. In ffof I only go 1 or maybe 1 1/2 weeks before feeding!
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Hey
yeah im using biobizz all-mix soil. The plant that was fastest growing started showing yellowing first, leading me to think it used up its N quicker than the others. I was going to get nutes a week earlier, but due to the queen and Mr. Obama visiting Dublin in Ireland, i couldnt get into the city to collect them without running the risk of getting stopped and searched by the police. It was very tight security, especially for the queen, and people were informed they would be spot searching pedestrians and cars...:evil:
I wasnt comfortable with that. I couldnt think of a reasonable explanation for having nutrients and a ballast in the car.:roll:
 
Jack Package

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gobskiii said:
max is the man. since ive been scoping these forums id have to say he is the most consistant in giving good advice. he knows. listen. i agree with what he said btw.
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Yeah himself and sparky were good enough to have a look at the girls online earlier in their plant problem clinic. I will know tomorrow morning when i check them if they are improving. Fingers crossed...
 
DrFever

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what kind of ph you watering them girls at yellowing of leaves IMO can only be caused from either over watering or not enough nutes
as for your droopy leaves was picture taken after lights out ??? looks like there tired :)) mine droop bad after in morning
i would try to get more air movement in your room leafs being wider means only that there trying to transpire more so Heat could be a factor on your droopyness
 
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DrFever said:
what kind of ph you watering them girls at yellowing of leaves IMO can only be caused from either over watering or not enough nutes
as for your droopy leaves was picture taken after lights out ??? looks like there tired :)) mine droop bad after in morning
i would try to get more air movement in your room leafs being wider means only that there trying to transpire more so Heat could be a factor on your droopyness
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Hey
Thanks for the input. I have a 12" desk fan on the highest speed in the tent, but not pointing directly at the plants. Its aimed at the same height as them but around the inside of the tent walls... I think the air distribution is good though...
I took these photos an hour after lights on, but I just had a look right before lights off and they still have the same wilt.
Watering pH is normally in between 6.3-6.9...

I just bought maxicrop's seaweed extract. I think i will foliar feed at lights on just to see if it perks them up.
 
DrFever

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IMO get a few more fans in there, if your not on a regular water bases i would suggest letting them dry out a bit and water every 4 - 5 days with nutes not sure how hot the fox farm soil is but to give you a idea i take a 3" clone and week 2 litterally 3rd watering i am givin them 1050 - 1250 ppm heres a pic what they look at 14 days flipping to flower mine droop being 10,000 watts on them for 18/6

what kind of veg light hrs are you running ????? also if you got a ppm meter take some foxfarm soil and do a run off test to see what your ppm is
 

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