Bird Shit from the Beach. What's the NPK?

NoobgrowerLbc

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I have been crazy fishing lately and the pier by my house opens all night, and all over the pier is dry bird shit, late at night i plan to bring a bag and knife and scrap as much as i can. Than i plan to crush them up and use measured amounts to make tea i will bouble it untill PH is nuetral than feed. What would be the NPK value? Anyone every tried it?
 

NoobgrowerLbc

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Thier is but i dont feel like blowing money on more nutrients when my current earthjuice nutrients run out, since im growing outdoor nutrients can get exspensive. I only mention the night time part becuase its pretty embarrasing if some looks and wonders why ur collecting poop lol. Im at the peir alot and i go at night alot mainly to smoke pot and fish with friends its awsome the peir has alot of dried old bird poop. I already have a air pump that i currently make teas with already.
 

Jerry Garcia

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Peruvian Seabird guano is 10-10-2 or something, so I imagine it would be close to that.

Guess it depends on the type of bird and their diet. I assume it's Seagull poop your scooping up?

Typically guanos are fossilized, and I imagine what you find on the pier won't be. Not sure how that affects things, but something to consider. You could add it to a compost pile and let it break down a little before using it in a tea.

Sounds like it should work though. Good luck!
 

kmksrh21

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Histoplasmosis

Ohio River Valley fever
Last reviewed: September 28, 2008.

Histoplasmosis is an infection due to the Histoplasma capsulatum fungus.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors


Histoplasmosis is a fungal infection. It occurs throughout the world. In the United States, it is most common in the southeastern, mid-Atlantic, and central states.
The infection enters the body through the lungs. Histoplasma fungus grows as a mold in the soil, and infection results from breathing in airborne particles. Soil contaminated with bird or bat droppings may have a higher concentration of histoplasma.
There may be a short period of active infection, or it can become chronic and spread throughout the body.
Histoplasmosis may have no symptoms. Most people who do develop symptoms will have a flu-like syndrome and lung (pulmonary) complaints related to pneumonia or other lung involvement. Those with chronic lung disease (such as emphysema and bronchiectasis) are at higher risk of a more severe infection.
About 10% of people with histoplasmosis will develop inflammation (irritation and swelling) in response to the initial infection. This can affect the skin, bones or joints, or the lining of the heart (pericardium). These symptoms are not due to fungal infection of those body parts, but to the inflammation.
In a small number of patients, histoplasmosis may become widespread (disseminated), and involve the blood, meninges (outer covering of the brain), adrenal glands, and other organs. Very young or very old people, or those who have a weakened immune system (due to AIDS, cancer, or transplant, for example) are at higher risk for disseminated histoplasmosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002073/

Don't do it!!
 

NoobgrowerLbc

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What if i scraped it and let it sit untill my nutrient get used up or since it has alot of P for flowering i should let it sit untill augest since thats when flowering kicks in.
 

Nullis

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Histoplasmosis is a concern with bat/seabird guano, even the kind you would find for sale as fertilizer. This kind of information is listed on the Material Safety Data Sheet for guano. But notice, infection results from breathing in airborne particles (guano dust) and this is easy enough to take precautions against by using a dust mask. It is really a good idea to wear one while you work with many of the materials we use for organic gardening (baled sphagnum, dolomite, guano, blood & bone meal, other granular manures and powdered fertilizers).

Fresh guano shouldn't be so dusty, but commercially available guano is most typically aged as Jerry pointed out. This means either composted, fossilized (ancient) or semi-fossilized. Commercial organic guano fertilizers should also be derived from fruit/insect eating bats or seafaring birds, which are not scavengers.
 

kevin murphy

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guanakolong bat exract is the best..i would never grow without it again...ever and its my first grow hahaha take a look
 

scunkworm

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I have been crazy fishing lately and the pier by my house opens all night, and all over the pier is dry bird shit, late at night i plan to bring a bag and knife and scrap as much as i can. Than i plan to crush them up and use measured amounts to make tea i will bouble it untill PH is nuetral than feed. What would be the NPK value? Anyone every tried it?
Hi there, i got a book on cannibis growing and it say's that fossilised sea bird shit is 1-10-1, pelleted sea bird is 12-12-2.5. rabbit is also good 2.40-1.40-0.60, giving the old orgaic's ago are you. anyway bro later scunk
 

Dankster4Life

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If used i would go VERY light as i'm sure it's gonna be "hot shit".

I use wild bat shit from my area in veg and it is SUPER POTENT.
 

scunkworm

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Only reson im asking is so i can get some, i got a book written by mel thomas, (a cannibis growing god)
he's wrote loads of books on it, but all he says in his book about bat shit is desert bat 8-4-1 and cave bat 3-10-0.1'
 

scunkworm

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i couldn't tell you to be honest.They are insect eaters though so that tells me da poops is higher in N.
Hey there dankster4life,
Is this your first organic grow or have you been doing it for awhile? i grow in soil but up untill now ive been using hydrophonic feeds, ive just got some worm castings and bone-meal, blood-fish-and bone, is that the same stuff as blood-meal? one grower told me to cut a fish's head off put it into the bottom of the pot and put other things in which i cant remember to be honst.
I have loads of things here to make a good orgnic soil mix but i have a real problem with %, dont know how to measure things' what i mean is like someone says use 30% but i anit got a clue. i try'ed gessing how far my lights were away from the top of my plants the other day and i sucked at it. but if someone said put one cup which is 25% i'd understand if you know what i mean.
 

Los Muertos

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...i have a real problem with %, dont know how to measure things' what i mean is like someone says use 30% but i anit got a clue. i try'ed gessing how far my lights were away from the top of my plants the other day and i sucked at it. but if someone said put one cup which is 25% i'd understand if you know what i mean.
I know you'd didn't ask me, but you'd have to know the total amount of mixed soil before you could break % down into
specific measurements. For example, if you need 5gal of soil and it's 60% peat, 25% bird shit and 15% perlite. To figure
that would be .60(60%)x5 .25x5 .15x5. So 3gal of peat, 1.75gal of shit and .75 gal of perlite. If you wanna know cups, ml
or whatever, just sub that number for gallons. 1gal=16 cups.
 
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