Advanced Nutrients: Is it Worth it?

homebrewer

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Damn I guess EVERYONE loves House and garden... I have heard nothing but GREAT things about it and I can't wait til my hydro store starts carrying it
H&G offers some pretty lack-luster NPK ratios which will translate into smaller yields. Your standard 3 part formula should easily out-perform.
 

max316420

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really?? Man people have been raving about this stuff... I in no way am hyping up advanced but I have tried many foods and have never seen the yields and speed of onset of flowering that I get from advanced.. Not saying you need all the additives but It does work well. I know that an is a chemical and ff is semi organic but damn the advanced is CRUSHING the FF.
 

homebrewer

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really?? Man people have been raving about this stuff... I in no way am hyping up advanced but I have tried many foods and have never seen the yields and speed of onset of flowering that I get from advanced.. Not saying you need all the additives but It does work well. I know that an is a chemical and ff is semi organic but damn the advanced is CRUSHING the FF.
I'm testing AN right now and it's keeping my plants nice and healthy. However, I can already tell their 1-1-2 NPK ratio is not promoting flower development like other mineral-based fertilizers who offer NPK ratios closer to a 1-3-2.
 

max316420

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I'm testing AN right now and it's keeping my plants nice and healthy. However, I can already tell their 1-1-2 NPK ratio is not promoting flower development like other mineral-based fertilizers who offer NPK ratios closer to a 1-3-2.


What advanced are you using? I use sensi bloom A and B, Big bud, bud candy, and some calmag for piece of mind
 

max316420

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Sweet I wanted to try the con, I guess one part of it is alcohol based so it actually force feeds the plant.. Haven't done alot of reading on it yet but was thinking about giving it a try when I quit being cheap and buy some
 

max316420

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Does anyone know if adding epsom salt to sensi bloom will have any adverse reactions? Like locking anything else out?
 

hugetom80s

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NPK ratios high in Phosphorus are throwbacks to dirt farming. In the ground you need the high P because it washes out of the rootzone with every rain. In hydroponics you're just giving the plants way too much Phosphorus.

I know Homebrewer will call it BS because he hates all things Advanced Nutrients, but here's a link to a video about it:

http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-articles/the-great-phosphorus-myth-exposed

It's AN's website to take it for what it's worth, but the science is sound.
 

homebrewer

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NPK ratios high in Phosphorus are throwbacks to dirt farming. In the ground you need the high P because it washes out of the rootzone with every rain. In hydroponics you're just giving the plants way too much Phosphorus.

I know Homebrewer will call it BS because he hates all things Advanced Nutrients, but here's a link to a video about it:

http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-articles/the-great-phosphorus-myth-exposed

It's AN's website to take it for what it's worth, but the science is sound.
AN's view that growers over feed phosphorus is probably true but their formulations of overloading K results in smaller yields. There is a balance to be had and AN is missing the mark.
 

CEAhaze

Member
Sweet I wanted to try the con, I guess one part of it is alcohol based so it actually force feeds the plant.. Haven't done alot of reading on it yet but was thinking about giving it a try when I quit being cheap and buy some
Save your money max and stay with sensi bloom. I've tried both and compared side by side and theres really not much difference.
 

max316420

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NPK ratios high in Phosphorus are throwbacks to dirt farming. In the ground you need the high P because it washes out of the rootzone with every rain. In hydroponics you're just giving the plants way too much Phosphorus.

I know Homebrewer will call it BS because he hates all things Advanced Nutrients, but here's a link to a video about it:

http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-articles/the-great-phosphorus-myth-exposed

It's AN's website to take it for what it's worth, but the science is sound.

How true do you think that video is? If it is which i believe then it will change ALOT of stuff.
 

hugetom80s

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Save your money max and stay with sensi bloom. I've tried both and compared side by side and theres really not much difference.
Conni can be tricky to dial in. At least for me there is a definite improvement with Connoisseur but Sensi is a lot easier to use.

How true do you think that video is? If it is which i believe then it will change ALOT of stuff.
I think it's dead on but obviously not everyone does. Everyone I know with an education in horticulture or related disciplines agrees that you need a significantly different ratio in hydroponics compared to soil, and that the vast majority of hydroponic nutrients are formulated using the soil ratios.

If I thought I could make a better formula myself I would, and I would probably sell it to my friends and build it into a business just like the guys that started Advanced Nutrients did years ago.
 

Shadydude

Member
Advanced Floriculture Ooze & Final Bloom is like Krack on Steroids.

[video=youtube;qkyjtg27FD4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyjtg27FD4&feature=channel_video_title[/video]
 

homebrewer

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Advanced Floriculture Ooze & Final Bloom is like Krack on Steroids.

[video=youtube;qkyjtg27FD4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyjtg27FD4&feature=channel_video_title[/video]
I can't believe that dude spent that much money on that garbage :lol:. Thanks for posting that video as it's a perfect example of how a fool and his money are soon parted. I'm also not sure why he's showing off that totally average plant :???:.
 

hugetom80s

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What's with the voice? Is it supposed to be sexy or make me sleepy?

The plant isn't bad for a PC case grow, but it's not making me want to try the yellow bottles (which I've done already and was not impressed with).
 
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