Oh Yeah ... Their "Terrorists" Alright ...

[mockingbird131313]

I started this joke because Pat B used to pop-off and say the first thing he would do as President would be slap handcuffs (personally) on both Bubba and Butch clinton. And he would slowly recite "You have the right to remain silent...".

Pat B thinks there is ample evidence of treason to bring charges against these two thugs. Other charges would follow, of course. Some government insiders believe bush may be in about the same situation.

Frankly, if McCain wins, this could get real sticky for bush and clinton people. He is truely a wild card.

 

[pandabear]

and you're a stupid ass bigot ... that's obvious ... you don't know one damn thing about these people ... how the fuck do you know they are terrorist? .... you have what you've heard from people that have lied time and time again ... only a stupid ass like you would take the word of liars ...

I detest fucked up minds like yours that will kill the innocent along with the guilty ... I'm sorry I have to defend this beautiful country's honor against stupid ass like yourself ...

AGAIN... how the fuck do you know these people are guilty of a crime? ... what do you have ... a fucking crystal ball?

They aren't given a lawyer .. a trial ... or even know the charges against them ... so how do government or you know they are terrorists?

... you are a disgrace to humanity ... go and crawl back under what ever slime filled hole and rock you came from you make me ...


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growrebel are we so nieve that we think we can have justice without some innocents getting unjustly accused?

the fact is u suggest that our patriotic men and women in the intelegence and military services are jailing innocent men, your the typical blame america first type of person, military trybunals are used against ememy combatents, these are non US citizens who are caught in open warfare with your country, they do not have the right to a lawer under the US constitution and would have been hung by our forefathers if there were here right now.

and while in US custody these guys aready have more rights than they ever had or ever will from the counrty of thier birth and nationality. so I just feel you are selling out your country for the people who have sworn to kill you and your friends us and your family and then you besmirch the brave men & women who are defending you and me and your family & friends from these men. to me in my opinion these prisoners would think it was funny and amazing that your are defending them and im sure however they would embrace your support for them grins on thier faces cuz they are secretly laughing.

 

[GrowRebel]

growrebel are we so nieve that we think we can have justice without some innocents getting unjustly accused?

What a fucked up mind you have ... you wouldn't be so flippant about innocents if it was your ass in that cell with no lawyer ... no phone call ... no charges ... so what if innocents die ... as long as it's not YOU ... typical repig dumb ass bushie response ...

the fact is u suggest that our patriotic men and women in the intelegence and military services are jailing innocent men, your the typical blame america first type of person,

Save the patriotic men and women shit ... I don't have to suggest ... there are tons of credible reports proving this is what is going on ... you are the type that as long as we do it ... it not torture ... it's not terrorism ... I'm sick of people like you that have help ruin the reputation of this country by turning your back on the WAR CRIMES being committed in the US name. You are THAT type of person and you sicken me. You are no better than those Germans that turn their back on the war crimes that were committed in the 30's ...

military trybunals are used against ememy combatents, these are non US citizens who are caught in open warfare with your country, they do not have the right to a lawer under the US constitution and would have been hung by our forefathers if there were here right now.

Bullshit ... they have done the same to US citizens ... and reports indicate that many of those so called enemy combatants are turn over to the US for reward ... and they do have a right to a lawyer ... just because the US says they don't doesn't mean they are correct.
Your statement shows you know little about the constitution ...

and while in US custody these guys aready have more rights than they ever had or ever will from the counrty of thier birth and nationality.

Bullshit ... in their countries they have a right to a trial and attorney ... so again you show your stupidity ...

so I just feel you are selling out your country for the people who have sworn to kill you and your friends us and your family and then you besmirch the brave men & women who are defending you and me and your family & friends from these men.

It is YOU that are selling out this country by allowing war crimes to continue and to condone it ....
... I've never heard anyone swear to kill me or my friends ... only the government has told me that and since they have a knack for lying I know it safe to believe no one they claim has sworn to kill me ...

... and nobody defending me ... nobody's defending the people of the US ... those brave men and women are defending oil and US corporate interests ...nothing more ... it's not their fault ... but that's what they are doing.

to me in my opinion these prisoners would think it was funny and amazing that your are defending them and im sure however they would embrace your support for them grins on thier faces cuz they are secretly laughing.

For someone that obviously haven't seen or met anyone of these prisoners you sure know a lot about them ... how is that? AGAIN I ask the question ... how do you know who or what these people are OTHER than what the government has told you ... how do you know they are terrorist? Still can't answer that question I see ...

You have a fucked sense of right and wrong ...

 

[pandabear]

What a fucked up mind you have ... you wouldn't be so flippant about innocents if it was your ass in that cell with no lawyer ... no phone call ... no charges ... so what if innocents die ... as long as it's not YOU ... typical repig dumb ass bushie response ...



Save the patriotic men and women shit ... I don't have to suggest ... there are tons of credible reports proving this is what is going on ... you are the type that as long as we do it ... it not torture ... it's not terrorism ... I'm sick of people like you that have help ruin the reputation of this country by turning your back on the WAR CRIMES being committed in the US name. You are THAT type of person and you sicken me. You are no better than those Germans that turn their back on the war crimes that were committed in the 30's ...



Bullshit ... they have done the same to US citizens ... and reports indicate that many of those so called enemy combatants are turn over to the US for reward ... and they do have a right to a lawyer ... just because the US says they don't doesn't mean they are correct.
Your statement shows you know little about the constitution ...



Bullshit ... in their countries they have a right to a trial and attorney ... so again you show your stupidity ...



It is YOU that are selling out this country by allowing war crimes to continue and to condone it ....
... I've never heard anyone swear to kill me or my friends ... only the government has told me that and since they have a knack for lying I know it safe to believe no one they claim has sworn to kill me ...

... and nobody defending me ... nobody's defending the people of the US ... those brave men and women are defending oil and US corporate interests ...nothing more ... it's not their fault ... but that's what they are doing.

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For someone that obviously haven't seen or met anyone of these prisoners you sure know a lot about them ... how is that? AGAIN I ask the question ... how do you know who or what these people are OTHER than what the government has told you ... how do you know they are terrorist? Still can't answer that question I see ...

You have a fucked sense of right and wrong ...

i do know these peeps quite well and I have heard them say they wanted to kill you & me, if you want me to post you some links i can. im just giving you the heads up, I have friends & work associates in Iraq, Pakistan, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, kuwait, Qatar, Egypt, and i mean local citizens not military, I was born in in the middle east & I speak fluent Arabic. so yes you could say I know the "lay of the land" so to speak and the mentality of brainwash young men who the old men indocternate throught religion to do thier dastardly deeds

you said my statment shows I know little about the constitution but the fact remains the US constitution only applies to US citizens, there again not sure if you know what you are trying to say

about the alleged traiters who are US citizens, they have all gone through the justice system and are being tried in US courts so you wrong there again

now about the war crimes, pls name the war crimes you are talking about that were condoned by the US military without splitting hairs

as far as being flipent about innocents that is not true im just telling you that innocents get caught in the mix somtimes. this is not my opinion just a fact of life that can never chage cuz no justice system can be perfect cuz we dont live in a magical world were everything is perfect, i know its unfortunate but its somthing we need to be aware of

lastly can you advise me why the usa would take innocent people and spend all this money detaining them and get all this flak from misgiuded people like you. can you explain to me thier motive for doing this? exactly its tottally obserd just like people saying bush knocked down the towers. the poor guy is leaving office and you guys act like hes been trying to take over the world still,

 

[GrowRebel]

i do know these peeps quite well and I have heard them say they wanted to kill you & me, if you want me to post you some links i can. im just giving you the heads up, I have friends & work associates in Iraq, Pakistan, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, kuwait, Qatar, Egypt, and i mean local citizens not military, I was born in in the middle east & I speak fluent Arabic. so yes you could say I know the "lay of the land" so to speak and the mentality of brainwash young men who the old men indocternate throught religion to do thier dastardly deeds

I am shocked if you were born in the Middle East and have this kind of mentality ... what is it ... some kind of self hatred? And you believe they want to kill us ...why? ... because they hate our freedom? .... The fact that we have bases on their land has nothing to do with it ... right?

Yeah ... let's see some of those links ... I would like to read average citizens inputs from the Middle East ...

... and can you read Arabic as well? ... if so I'd like to look up an article in Arabic announcing Bin Laden's death ... perhaps you could translate for us?

you said my statment shows I know little about the constitution but the fact remains the US constitution only applies to US citizens, there again not sure if you know what you are trying to say

No ... the constitution also applies to international laws and treaties we sign with other counties ... so you are incorrect.

about the alleged traiters who are US citizens, they have all gone through the justice system and are being tried in US courts so you wrong there again

Wrong again ... some are still being held without charges ... and some have waited years for a day in court only to face trump up charges ... so you are wrong again.

now about the war crimes, pls name the war crimes you are talking about that were condoned by the US military without splitting hairs

Don't even go there ... I've been keeping a log of all the war crimes committed by this illegitimate regime for months now ... pick one ... if you are too lazy to look at shit already on site then I can't help you ...

as far as being flipent about innocents that is not true im just telling you that innocents get caught in the mix somtimes. this is not my opinion just a fact of life that can never chage cuz no justice system can be perfect cuz we dont live in a magical world were everything is perfect, i know its unfortunate but its somthing we need to be aware of

Yeah ... well that why people have to be tried ... with a lawyer ... before their peers ... but you are more than willing to throw that out to satisfy a false sense of security ... it would be less of a "fact of life" if they had a fair trial and representation ... the fact that the US won't do that is a violation of international law ...

lastly can you advise me why the usa would take innocent people and spend all this money detaining them and get all this flak from misgiuded people like you. can you explain to me thier motive for doing this? exactly its tottally obserd just like people saying bush knocked down the towers. the poor guy is leaving office and you guys act like hes been trying to take over the world still,

Because the men behind the curtain that run and cause the corruption in government ... who have gain enormous profits from 911 and the wars will do whatever it takes to continue those wars ... including jailing innocents and putting out fear propaganda ... so misguided people like you will support war crimes ... and it works in your case.
... and people aren't saying the illegitimate bush knocked down the towers ... it was the illegitimate bush regime and member of PNAC that did that ... there's a difference ...

... all you have to do is look at all the independent news sources and it will indicate just that ... this regime wants to take over the world ... wake up.

 

[pandabear]

I am shocked if you were born in the Middle East and have this kind of mentality ... what is it ... some kind of self hatred? And you believe they want to kill us ...why? ... because they hate our freedom? .... The fact that we have bases on their land has nothing to do with it ... right?

Yeah ... let's see some of those links ... I would like to read average citizens inputs from the Middle East ...

... and can you read Arabic as well? ... if so I'd like to look up an article in Arabic announcing Bin Laden's death ... perhaps you could translate for us?

No ... the constitution also applies to international laws and treaties we sign with other counties ... so you are incorrect.


Wrong again ... some are still being held without charges ... and some have waited years for a day in court only to face trump up charges ... so you are wrong again.


Don't even go there ... I've been keeping a log of all the war crimes committed by this illegitimate regime for months now ... pick one ... if you are too lazy to look at shit already on site then I can't help you ...


Yeah ... well that why people have to be tried ... with a lawyer ... before their peers ... but you are more than willing to throw that out to satisfy a false sense of security ... it would be less of a "fact of life" if they had a fair trial and representation ... the fact that the US won't do that is a violation of international law ...


Because the men behind the curtain that run and cause the corruption in government ... who have gain enormous profits from 911 and the wars will do whatever it takes to continue those wars ... including jailing innocents and putting out fear propaganda ... so misguided people like you will support war crimes ... and it works in your case.
... and people aren't saying the illegitimate bush knocked down the towers ... it was the illegitimate bush regime and member of PNAC that did that ... there's a difference ...

... all you have to do is look at all the independent news sources and it will indicate just that ... this regime wants to take over the world ... wake up.

if Obama is elected how will the bush regime take over the world?

anyway good battle, i guess we both said our piece and views on the subject

and no I cant read arabic anymore i forgot how to.

do you ever think how it would feel if someone killed your daughter or son in the world trade center attacks and then another person comes up to you with no evidence and tells you that the leader of your own country did the attacks and hes the one really responsible and not the people who clearly did it?

just feel like you would know better than to say somthing like that if you were infront of a grieving mother who lost somone in that attack, so I just think if thats the case you shouldnt do it here either when they are not looking or watching

 

[GrowRebel]

if Obama is elected how will the bush regime take over the world?

He ain't elected yet ... the illegitimate bush regime could stage another 911 and call for marshal law ... cancel the election ...

anyway good battle, i guess we both said our piece and views on the subject

I'm always good in a battle ...

and no I cant read arabic anymore i forgot how to.

Too bad ... would have been interesting ...

do you ever think how it would feel if someone killed your daughter or son in the world trade center attacks and then another person comes up to you with no evidence and tells you that the leader of your own country did the attacks and hes the one really responsible and not the people who clearly did it?

Did you ever think how it would feel if someone killed a loved one in the WTC attacks ... evidence and government action raise a ton of unanswered questions and when you ask for an open independent investigation the government ignores you and claim you are crazy when you doubt the so called official report?

just feel like you would know better than to say somthing like that if you were infront of a grieving mother who lost somone in that attack, so I just think if thats the case you shouldnt do it here either when they are not looking or watching

I just feel you would know better than to say there shouldn't be an open non partisan investigation where people must testify under oath ... in front of a grieving family who lost someone in that attack, if that's the case ... you shouldn't do it here either when they are not looking or watching ...

 

[pandabear]

He ain't elected yet ... the illegitimate bush regime could stage another 911 and call for marshal law ... cancel the election ...


I'm always good in a battle ...


Too bad ... would have been interesting ...


Did you ever think how it would feel if someone killed a loved one in the WTC attacks ... evidence and government action raise a ton of unanswered questions and when you ask for an open independent investigation the government ignores you and claim you are crazy when you doubt the so called official report?


I just feel you would know better than to say there shouldn't be an open non partisan investigation where people must testify under oath ... in front of a grieving family who lost someone in that attack, if that's the case ... you shouldn't do it here either when they are not looking or watching ...

ok then growrebel riddle me this

whats green and smells like pork?

 

[pandabear]

kermit the frogs finger




so grow rebel are a guy or a gurl?

 

[medicineman]

kermit the frogs finger




so grow rebel are a guy or a gurl?

Gurl??? how about Girl, geeze, take a spelling class. when you can't spell girl, how can we be expected to think you have any educated opinions?

 

[pandabear]

Gurl??? how about Girl, geeze, take a spelling class. when you can't spell girl, how can we be expected to think you have any educated opinions?

i spell it that way on purpose but I cant spell most words right anyway just a problem i have always had, but so is grow rebel a gurl / girl or a guy /giy?


hey by the way i saw some of you pics medi what strain you growin, do u use soil?

 

[GrowRebel]

I'm a woman in comfortable shoes ... thank you very much ...

... now ... back to our story ....

Disturbing New Photos From Abu Ghraib

These aren't really new photos as they claim ... they have been on the net for a while, but I would like a record of this so-called "enhance interrogation" ... in this thread.

I don't understand the last picture though ... a mouse in a trap? ... what's up with that?

 

[pandabear]

that is some disgusting shit those military personel did, they are criminals and have been sumarally locked up. our government was furious when they found out this was going on the people that participated helped get soldiers killed.

 

[GrowRebel]

Our government wasn't furious ... Those soldiers were following orders they didn't just up and decide to do that ... they were ordered by high officials to do so and those that gave those orders are still walking around free ... it is they that should be behind bars ...