Experienced Chemical Hallucinogen Users! Possible 2c-?

408isthebay

Active Member
Hey rollitup, I've been into mostly natural psychoactive substances such as Psilocybe and Cannabis for medical and personal purposes, I've also done Lsd many time. Being an experienced doser i've been exploring alternative trips and methods. Recently theres been a wave of unmarked pills sold as hallucinogens, my homie dropped one and tripped the fuck out, he said he never felt anything like it. I was pretty close to driving him to emergency but luckily everything was fine. Despite being a frequent lsd and mushroom user these pills triggered vivid hallucinations and real bad anxiety in him. Although I haven't consumed any i've been researching about what these pills might contain, rumor has it they are 2c-e. Without any prior RC chemicals I can't be too sure, so i'd like to know if there are any SAFE rc vendors since the not too long ago 2c-fly deaths scare me:!:

edit: Thanks for all the help people, I'll definitely look into those reagents and i'll be on this site and others alot more frequently. Didn't expect the internet to be this damn useful besides porn and maybe video games
 

Ellis Dee

Active Member
Your best bet may be getting a reagent test. I dont know which test for 2c-x, and more specifically how to differentiate from different 2c's.

Most of these things are relatively safe.

This is a list of reagent results on various substances.

Marquis
2-AminoIndan
Orange to Red (slightly rusty)
2C-C
Starting brown going to Dark Lime Green (similar to 2C-B)
2C-D
Very light pink
2C-E
No reaction (!?)
2C-I
Dark Green to Black
2C-T-2
Orange to Red (usually a sort of salmon color)
2C-T-4
Orange to Red (usually a sort of salmon color)
2C-T-7
Orange to Red (salmon, again; also, there is less tendency towards orange than 2C-T-2 shows)
3C-P
Orange
4-Acetoxy-DiPT
Dirty (blackish) olive
4-Methyl-Aminorex (u4euh)
no color change
4-MTA
no color change
5-MeO-DiPT
Fizzes then turns yellow quickly changing to a slightly rusty orange
Alpha-Methyl-DiPT
Fizzes then turns brown
AMT
Dark brownish-yellow
BDB
Dark brown, nearly black
Benzylpiperazine
No color change, but it causes the reagent to fizz. Looks like when you pour hydrogen peroxide on a cut.
DiPT
Fizzes strongly then turns a neon yellow
DPT
Dirty olive
Harmine
Fizzes slightly, much less so than BZP, and turns a brown-orange rust color.
IAP
Immediate reaction to salmon/red, slowly intensifies to a darker red over 1min.
MBDB
Dark Brown to Black
Methylone
Yellow
Opiates
Pink to Purple
Phenolphthalein
Crimson
PMA
No color change
TMA-2
Lime Green (similar to 2C-B)
TMA-6
Yellow to Orange
Yohimbine
Fizzes slightly, much less so than BZP. Slowly (up to a minute), it will turn an olive green color.


Mecke

2C-E
light yellow/green within 10 seconds
2C-I
Immediate reaction to a reddish brown similar to drying blood
2C-T-21
Dark blood red which turns to an imperial purple over 30 seconds
4-Methyl-Aminorex (u4euh)
no color change
IAP
No Reaction
MBDB
Yellow
TMA-6
Dirty olive, gradually develops orange on the edges of the liquid puddle after about a minute

Simons

2C-E
No reaction
2C-I
No reaction
2C-T-21
Greenish blue
IAP
No Reaction
TMA-6
Purple

Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130875#ixzz1P75yBBno
The reagents are fairly cheap if you really want to be safe. I think some pill testers still do it for less than $100 and that is real analytics.
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
Or You could take a pictures of your pills ... post them here ... and some of our wicked folks ...
Might be able to identify them for you. I know this guy who has 15 years of internet pill peddling experience .... he should be able to identify your culprit in a flash ... lolz
There is also pillreports.com website .... to help YOU.

:)
 

Haddaway

Well-Known Member
Your best bet may be getting a reagent test. I dont know which test for 2c-x, and more specifically how to differentiate from different 2c's.

Most of these things are relatively safe.

This is a list of reagent results on various substances.



The reagents are fairly cheap if you really want to be safe. I think some pill testers still do it for less than $100 and that is real analytics.
Great post.
I know people who do it for 50$.
 

408isthebay

Active Member
sick shit man.. this site is so helpful, didn't expect so many answers so fast. I'm pretty new to the whole internet culture n shit +rep to those who helped
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
Stay humble and truthful to Yourself and others at RIU ... and that will pay dividend in wisdom and YOUR life experiences.
AS you slowly grow into who YOU ARE.

If you want to be a PRO ... get your hands on EZ Test Marquis
It will test for 2c's and give you a good idea ... what you are playing with.
You can order ONE Here !

Cops use it and so should YOU
It is that good.


:)
 

408isthebay

Active Member
Bro, I'd rep you again but i can't :( it seriously feels good talking to someone that actually knows a thing or 2 about this kinda subject as everyone around me seems so shady when it comes to these things. You definitely know a thing or two
Stay humble and truthful to Yourself and others at RIU ... and that will pay dividend in wisdom and YOUR life experiences.
AS you slowly grow into who YOU ARE.

If you want to be a PRO ... get your hands on EZ Test Marquis

Bro, I'd rep you again but i can't :( it seriously feels good talking to someone that actually knows a thing or 2 about this kinda subject as everyone around me seems so shady when it comes to these things. You definitely know a thing or two
It will test for 2c's and give you a good idea ... what you are playing with.
You can order ONE Here !

Cops use it and so should YOU
It is that good.


:)
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
Brother ... REPs are useless. The gesture is appreciated tho.
I enjoy your good nature.
Thus I recognized your need and replied.
I am sure YOU would have done the same thing.
I only tell you what many other, very wise folks
passed down the line
.

Want YOU to be safe ... that is the most important thing here.
And if YOU would decide to learn something from this and take it
with YOU !

That is amazing ... a reward in itself ... for YOU and I.

:)
 

sven deisel

Well-Known Member
sup puffer long time no talk. the 2c-x's are old news look into the 25x-nbome's they are the shit. very powerfull tho in 400ug range
 

Ellis Dee

Active Member
They are more potent but also have more potential points to metabolism. This is an entirely new breed.

I hear they're great.
 

408isthebay

Active Member
wow I never knew there were so many synthetics... really makes me want to purchase those reagent kits, I have a feeling theres alott of fake stuff going around
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
And here is Seven ... and HE is right .... but lets not confuse our new friend ... nor scare him/her away.
What is to be expected IN our Highs ... usually scares most level headed folks.
Not that there is anything to be scared of.

We are all after different highs and lows here ... and define them in accordance
to what we are after.

U should feel some of my own chemical concoctions .... they are out of this world !
They make Shulgins love toys ... look like GoBots form the 80's next to my Robosapien V2
(If this is read by Cops ... I am just joking ... and not to come across as a PRICK I secretly respect Alexander in his accomplishments)
In fact I am buying his INDEX just to give some back. It will be signed next wk :)




Seven U done any field work with 2C-T-7 ?


 

sven deisel

Well-Known Member
no havent that the chance. so much research so little time. even what i have i havent got around to researching yet. like dpt and 5 meo dalt. to many irons in the fire
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
Not to many irons for ME in the fire tonight SEVEN
But there is this huge line of K right before MY eyes ...
And I am so doing IT ...

 

Skuxx

Well-Known Member
That 2ct7 seems dangerous. Not sure if I would even try it. A person around here recently died from it, thinking it was another c2--... So be careful for any of you experimenting with it. Although, yall are probably a lot smarter with these sort of things than he was.

and damn puffer, every post I read of yours, there's a line of K in front of you! I'm jealous!
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
Thank you brother for concern ... I do take drugs seriously ... BUT appreciate and welcome YOUR plight for safety ... (no sarcasm here)
Ya I like K ... (man I got to stop putting fat lines in every post ... thank you for pointing this out)
In reality tho ... I made a reference to lines of K ... perhaps 4 times ... in 2898 posts ... ಠ_ಠ
And YOU Skuxx are a good dude and mean well ... I can tell.

P.S Jealousy turns folks into greedy bastards ... kill that emotion ... before it turns YOU.

:)
 

408isthebay

Active Member
The unmarked pills were just vitamin capsuls filled with roughly 15-20mg? of unknown white powder, my friend experienced bad anxiety about 1hr 30 minutes after ingestion and after roughly 4 he started getting audio "visuals" and other effects from an hallucinogen, however his friend recalls constant anxiety, lack of breathing similar to his first trip on triple c's slight numbness? Some "stimulant" effects were also felt, we have been hitting bong full of heavy oils and bubble hash so we were pretty fucked up and ready to pass out when we dropped the "acid" pill yet my friend stayed completely wired through out the entire night from 11pm-8am before crashing at my pad. When he woke up the next day he said it felt a kind of body warm body high that was similar to mdma and still felt a slight effect maybe 20 hours after ingestion, he's been doing hallucinogens longer than me and he says its definitely not lsd
 

Puffer Fish

Well-Known Member
Ya .. the capsules of white powder ... throws a wrench into this analysis.
From a visual perspective.
The dosage in mg's ... and the duration of the trip as per time frame ... points to something on the strong side.
Taking into consideration everything mentioned as per symptoms ... I would speculate that YOU guys
ingested 2cb (mdma and LSD type a high). The anxiety might have come from either impurities (dirty chems)
Or perhaps his state of mind (as he was not sure what he was taking at onset)
Such variables might certainly trigger psychological anxiety ....
The Shortness of breath ... again ... could be a product of the chemical (which I highly doubt) ... or the triggered anxiety ...
That goes hand in hand ...

Question, how do you know of the dosage in mg as per the content of capsule (Is that an eye ball guestimate ?)
Please entertain this link HERE noting the dosages and effects.
Perhaps YOUr friend should have a look.

Good luck and keep safe !
 
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