The Effects of Tripping

Da'at

Da'at

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I believe it's 8 minutes for light to travel from the sun to the earth, but that's just semantics.

The only reason that two different times are experienced, is because of the time it takes light to travel from one point to another. If light were instantaneous, then the experiences were instantaneous. That is of course, if we're basing our experience of time through our eyes. If we were to do the same with our ears, then the time differential would be much greater.

All events occur simultaneously, but cannot be observed as such. Only through the minds eye can this be "seen".
 
ANC

ANC

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If we define instantaneous as no time has elapsed i.e. 0.0 seconds, then the distance light travels in an instant is 0.0 meters or in otherwords in such a world all is one and it is infinately small.
Lol, we are saying the same thing to some extent, except one is talking about is implications and one its mechanics. I think what we aggree on is the part where the brain makes this reality (or its perception thereof, which is just as real to the observer) and the sense of time as being, well, time, and not just distance.

P.S. everything happens because it can.
 
Da'at

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:D

Yeah, we basically are. I guess I'm a nuts and bolts kinda guy. I like the technicalities of such things.

I was just thinking about it, if you create a wormhole, then you are, in theory, bending two points of space together, making their "time" the same so there would be no differential. So maybe there is something to this whole space(distance)/time thing. :p
 
Tenner

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Nice discussion chaps! Time to me does seem instantenous in the way your describing it Da`at but its flow does actually get effected when you reach light speed/higher speeds. This is brought about by a theory from Einstein I belive, Relativity isn`t it? My physicist friend was telling me about it :)

Time is a friggin devil to define. Easy to notice, hard to understand :D
 
Tenner

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asdf1 said:
this thread has taken quite the turn since the first post. Although it is all relevant.
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I think its relevant too. Its the "effects of tripping" on us people that can be seen first hand :D The opening of the mind, the deep thinking...
 
Tenner

Tenner

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LSD tends to us that there is an area of the mind which can be called Unsane.... Beyond sanity but yet not Insanity. Think of a circle with a falling split in it. At one end is Insanity... you go around the circle to Sanity and at the other end of the circle close to Insanity is Unsanity....

Why is it that people think it so easily... what is it about it that scares people so easily... so deepy... maybe because they are afraid that there is more to reality than they have in front of them... that there are doors they are afraid to go in and they don`t want us to go in there either because if we go in there we might learn something that they don`t know..... and that makes us a little harder to control.....

Copied from the track Rox - Lysergic Skies ;)
 
Tenner

Tenner

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mescalinebandit420 said:
right. except for theres truth behind those words and religion is about misguided symbolism and blind following.
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Yeah these words set the individual free whereas most religions confine you in their rules. But don`t forget, this is only our opinion :) It is "misguided" and "blinded" according to us, but a Christian may beg to differ :) However much I argued I have been viewed as blind by religious folk. If I am, then I wouldn`t know its there. If they are blind, they wouldn`t know whats out there. Interesting indeedy :)
 
mescalinebandit420

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very tru. everyone has a different perspective on things like that. thats just my opinion. i mean no offense to anyone who believes otherwise.
 
asdf1

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mescalinebandit420 said:
very tru. everyone has a different perspective on things like that. thats just my opinion. i mean no offense to anyone who believes otherwise.
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Something tells me that not too many of the religious types are going to get offended in the HS section, let alone the rest of this site. I think everyone is entitled to believe what they feel. I believe in science. If you follow religion you give up on science at least somewhat. Following religion abandons your human sense to reason with things as all religion can be disproved by reason.

The bible teaches great morals, but I don't need to be taught morals in a book, a book that has been taken way too literally by so many people. Fundamentalists strike me as the most rediculous, the bible is extremely metaphorical, if someone reads it and takes every word of it as absolute truth than they are 100% abandoning all that makes us a unique species, the ability and need to question things and come up with our own explanations on life, the universe, and everything.

I believe people should be good people based on the good of being good. Not to avoid some emminent punishment in the afterlife. Teaching kids to be good based on that is wrong as well. We should be good to be good. Help each other survive, for that is the one reason we are here. It is all truth proved by science. Want to know why science hasn't come up with a reason why we are here and alive. Well its because there is NO REASON for us to be here we JUST ARE. And look at the beauty in that..... think about it.... WE ARE HERE, WE ACTUALLY DO EXIST, I think.... But whether or not I actually exist, there is something there enough for me to be able to question it. And to give up questioning it to me is a sin in itself.

This is why I am against religion.
 
Tenner

Tenner

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Yeah Asdf1 I could of laid out a similar rant to that but I avoid talking about religion being %100 wrong in threads which aren`t about religion. I saw people who are religious on this section before, the HS has its belivers :)

Whatever you do, you can`t claim Atheism makes you BETTER than the religious. Maybe it feels better for you but I`m sure religion feels better for the religious too. Enough said :)
 
ANC

ANC

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tripping can make you very religious, but it will not be your parents' religion, but something far more cognicent of things within your religion, the nature of God, etc.
Spirituality is a very dangerous slope. I sometimes wish I could have more simple beliefs, or just question things less.
 
CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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ANC said:
tripping can make you very religious, but it will not be your parents' religion, but something far more cognicent of things within your religion, the nature of God, etc.
Spirituality is a very dangerous slope. I sometimes wish I could have more simple beliefs, or just question things less.
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I hear you, most def ANC.

Though I float through the doors of perception, more questions arise than that are answered. Makes for such a busy mind. It can become exhausting.
 
Tenner

Tenner

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Thats agreed, tripping turns you into a deep thinker.

Though there is a different angle to grasp for those who choose to. More questions do arise but everything is made one and answered in a sense. Depends which angle you want to focus on and how much you choose to care :)

Also I find that I think too much about things and fall into paradoxes easily, less nowadays I think. Understanding so much can drive you a little nuts :)
 
asdf1

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Tenner said:
Yeah Asdf1 I could of laid out a similar rant to that but I avoid talking about religion being %100 wrong in threads which aren`t about religion. I saw people who are religious on this section before, the HS has its belivers :)

Whatever you do, you can`t claim Atheism makes you BETTER than the religious. Maybe it feels better for you but I`m sure religion feels better for the religious too. Enough said :)
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I don't think Athiesm is better than Religion or vice versa. I just think that the reason for being a good person is and worse respectively. I respect the morals of the religious, I just think that they don't need the religion to be good. And that with the fact that religion means giving up science makes me against religion. I am against religion, however I do not look down on religion or disrespect it.

To each their own. I believe in the right to believe what you wish. I just also think that the blind faith required by most mainstream religions diminishes the potential of human kind. I think eventually religion will be washed out of our society through the process of evolution. On the other hand maybe not. We will never see it in our lifetimes.

Except I have read that the current generation of humans may have the option of immortality. YES, you heard me right, science is making headway in anti aging cures. Maybe not immortality but signifigantly extending the length of your life. I don't want to live forever but 100 years is far far far too short a time to see the things that I want to see.

Edit: Just wanted to add that this thread kicks ASS! Sticky it please. The first post is a must read for every tripper and the subsesquent conversation that is following provides an insight into the mind of people that are CURRENTLY experimenting with psychedelics. Hell this thread is downright scientific.

It's interesting how many people who have never met in real life are all on the same wavelength through experimentation of many different but all too similar substances.
 
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