My big problem with LSD !

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Yeh weed does slow you down that for sure... Sharpness of the mind. Truth is, max potential cannot be reached with weed in most normal conditions and I know that to be true for me. As we all know it is quite the stuff though, not only a social lubricant but just a lubricant for the mind Puffer =) Been a while since I toked one up!

Puffer I can relate to the "refreshment tray" thing your not being snobish. My brother is very easy going. Very clever, very easily grasps things but plain ass lazy. I would be like "lets go make bombs dude" "dude come on I`m making 40000v tonight" "Hey man come grind up this mimosa hostilis".... Tut tut never interested. Would rather just play computer games lol Even things like planting weed, seriously! Though propably the same level of knowledge in theoretical science and both studying electronics. Just couldn`t get the dude moving!! Thats where the plain acceptance sets in, mate your easy going lol

This thing about Metaprogramming is boggling my mind at the moment. Its sorta interconnected with Yoga too. LSD and Metaprogramming in the Human Biocomputer... It seems as if the more "meditative" or more specificly "focus requiring" activities you partake, the more your "main program" gains power

Changed the way I think that stuff!! Talk about deep

Weed makes me really hyper and makes my mind move too fast, and then it slooowwss down.

It's called Kundalini energy. I know all about your latter post. I've studied it for years. Psychedelic drugs cause you to release mass amounts of kundalini energy at once, while meditation causes it to slowly build up and at one point you will have enough kundalini energy to have the mindset of a psychedelic experience everyday of your life. TIME TO UNDERSTAND, TENNER!!

 

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SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION OF LSD AND OTHER HALLUCINOGENS

hallucinogenic drugs for inner space exploration, part one
by donald degracia

the following was written by an expert in the field of hallucinogenic
drug research, and the exploration of the inner self.

Introduction

there are a variety of tools available to anyone interested in exploring
altered states of consciousness. Such tools include meditation,
out-of-body experiences, brain and biofeedback instruments, occult type
rituals, visualization exercises, and also in this category are
hallucinogenic drugs. Each of these tools provides a different doorway
into the inner spaces of our subjectivity and consciousness. In this
article, i would like to provide a brief overview of hallucinogenic
drugs as one means among many for achieving altered states of
consciousness. It is not my intention here to debate whether it is right
or not to use hallucinogenic drugs, whatever is ones motive, though i
will discuss the variety of opinions that exist in this regard. My
purpose here is twofold: 1. To give a broad overview of hallucinogenic
drugs in general, and 2. To show how hallucinogenics can provide, if
used reasonably and responsibly, a valuable and substantial tool for
exploring inner spaces.

History of hallucinogenic substances

the history of mankind's involvement with hallucinogens seems to go back
thousands of years. Some modern scholars speculate that the soma of the
ancient hindus was indeed a hallucinogenic substance that was used for
purposes of religious ritual and ecstasy. The use of opiates in china
and the far east is well documented. The religious uses of
hallucinogenic mushrooms by native americans is also a well documented
fact, as well as being a point of controversy in modern legislation.
However, the modern west only really became involved with hallucinogenic
drugs after world war ii. It was in 1948 that lsd was first produced
from rye mold by albert hoffman, who was at the time looking for
antibiotic substances in fungi. Also around this time, mescaline was
identified as the active agent in certain hallucinogenic plants. Within
a few years after being recognized, these substances began to cause
severe polarization in opinions about their use and benefit.
On one hand, there were in the 1950s and early 1960s, small groups of
avant garde intellectuals who began to associate religious and mystical
qualities with the effects of these drugs on human perception. Perhaps
best known in this regard was aldous huxley's "the doors of perception",
which highlighted huxley's personal experiences on mescaline. Also in
this vein was alan watts' "the joyous cosmology" which also extolled the
philosophical and mystical virtues of the hallucinogenic experience.
On the other hand, during this same period, hallucinogenic drugs such as
lsd and mescaline were seen by the medical and psychiatric fields as
being agents that seemed to simulate psychosis. Initially, the term
"hallucinogenic" did not even exist. In the 1950s and 1960s these drugs
were generally called "psychomimetics", meaning that their effects
mimicked symptoms displayed by psychotics and paranoids. Perhaps the
crowning tribute to this view of lsd was the book "one flew over the
cuckoos nest" by ken kesey, which reflected kesey's experiences as a
volunteer in medical experiments on the effects of lsd. Incidentally,
kesey, in the late 1960s went on to be one of the leaders of the west
coast psychedelic movement with his "band of merry pranksters" (as
described in the book "the electric kool-aid acid tests").
So from the very beginning the hallucinogenic drugs have been viewed
from totally opposite points of view: Doctors initially equated the
drugs' effects with psychosis, and intellectuals equated the drugs
effects with profound religious experiences.
The story of lsd climaxed in the early 1960s with the research of
timothy leary at harvard university. Initially, leary, who was a harvard
psychologist researching the nature of personality, had only an
impartial scientific interest in these so-called psychomemetic drugs. He
soon found out however that their effects were so great as to cause him
to essentially abandon his roots as an elitist east coast intellectual
and to become the founding father of the psychedelic movement in the
united states. It was leary's contention that hallucinogenic drugs
opened up to human perception things long lost from western tradition,
things that were well understood in older cultures and religions.
Timothy leary recognized, like other intellectuals a decade before him,
that these drugs have the potential to cause profound religious and
mystical experiences, experiences that could easily be distorted and
misconstrued by western reductionistic intellectuals as being symptoms
of insanity. Leary, like any other person made sane by lsd, came to the
conclusion that it was the modern west that was insane, not some poor
individual in a psychiatric ward who was experiencing visions and
hearing voices.
I do not think there is a need here to attempt to recount in full the
story of timothy leary. However, we will return to the contention that
hallucinogenic drugs cause religious and mystical experiences. At this
point, it is enough to say that leary started something much bigger than
himself. The psychedelic movement gained much momentum through
1965-1967, culminating with events like woodstock. However, quick as it
came, it was gone. Lsd was made illegal, jimi hendrix and janis joplin
died, leary got off his soap-box, and the united states, after failing
miserably in vietnam, drifted into a depressing 1970s.
And here we are, some 20 years later. Lsd has not gone away, it is
simply not talked about anymore. The best of the actual psychedelic
movement turned into the grateful dead, who have been riding a
successful music career ever since. And the basement scientists who in
the 1960s made and sold lsd turned into the "designer drug" community on
the west coast, giving us such wonderful poisons as "ecstasy" (which
causes severe nerve damage if taken enough - so beware!).
Well, with this bit of history under our belts, i'd like to discuss a
little about the hallucinogenic drugs themselves both in terms of what
their subjective effects are and also what is known about how they react
in the body. After that, i will then go into more detail about their use
as a tool for exploring inner space.

The effects of hallucinogenic drugs

so doctors call it insanity, and intellectuals call it enlightenment,
but really, what is it? What are the effects caused when on
hallucinogenic drugs?
In terms of effects, one of the most important generalizations about
these drugs' effects was laid out by leary when he spoke of "set and
setting". What he meant by this is that what an lsd user actually
experienced was critically dependant on the user's state of mind (set)
and where he was at and what company he was in (setting). This fact is
completely true. It is very difficult to classify the effects of
hallucinogenic because they *are* so dependent upon set and setting. If
the user is depressed and in bad company, the experience will be vastly
different than if the user is relaxed, happy and in good company.
But, keeping this idea of "set and setting" in the front of our mind, we
can still make some generalizations about the subjective effects of the
lsd experience. Some of the most commonly reported effects are:

O visual hallucinations.
O audio hallucinations.
O sensory mixing (hearing sights or seeing sounds).
O weakening of ego boundaries (a weakening or loss of sense of self).
O enhanced ability to think abstractly.
O the uncontrollable urge to laugh.
O enhanced ability to sense the emotions of others.
O inability to maintain focus or concentration for long periods.
O feelings of extreme joy.
O feelings of extreme depression and terror.
O a direct apprehension of god.

Now this list is by no means complete. It only states some of the more
commonly reported effects. It is also important to state that not all of
these are experienced by a lsd user. As a matter of fact it is possible
that none of these effects will be experienced. It is important to be
aware that: The effects of hallucinogenic drugs are extremely
unpredictable. The rule of "set and setting" is the best guide for
anticipating what the effects of a hallucinogenic experience may be. As
a matter of fact, i have a close friend who is quite experienced at the
use of hallucinogens, and his rule of thumb is the following: "if you
have a garden in your mind, then you'll be in it. If you have a garbage
can in your mind, then you'll be in it". This is very useful advice.

Explanations of hallucinogenic effects

at this point i would like to begin to discuss what it is that these
drugs are doing in the body. There is no question that hallucinogens
cause profound effects. The really key question is: Where do these
effects come from?
To answer this question i would like to lay out two very different
theories of what it is the hallucinogens are doing to the human being.
We will see that these theories are complimentary in that they both shed
light on mode of the action of hallucinogenic drugs. However, these two
theories i am about to discuss are products of vastly different
world-views that most people consider to be contradictory. In this
article, i take the attitude that we can learn from both. The two views
of how hallucinogens affect humans that i will now discuss are the
scientific view and the occult view. Both science and occultism offer
reasonable and useful views about the nature of the hallucinogenic
experience. However, what i intend to illustrate here is that the occult
view is simply better. Let us begin with the scientific view. There are
philosophical problems we must as well address as we proceed.
A drug such as lsd offers a severe challenge to the conventional
scientific wisdom. Science tells us that our consciousness is somehow
the product of our brain; that our psychology is the software, and the
brain is the hardware. At first glance, the lsd experience seems to
completely support this view for we have eaten a chemical that severely
alters the hardware, and thus, expectedly, alters the software (i.e. Our
thoughts and perceptions). For the moment, let us just accept this
contention and work with it.

Scientific explanations of hallucinogenic effects

modern scientific investigations into the structure of the brain shows
that it is made of lots of different layers of tissues such as the
cortex, cerebellum and others. These tissues in turn are, in total, made
of some one trillion cells. These cells are called neurons. Neurons look
a lot like tree branches, branching off in myriad directions touching
many, many other neurons. And the neurons align themselves like fibers,
making thick tracts of cable throughout the brain. It is well known that
neurons conduct electricity along themselves. This electricity is
created by salts like sodium and potassium, chloride and calcium. And
these salts act in the cells, much like the salts in a battery work to
make electricity.
Now it is also well known that neurons do not touch each other directly,
but that there is a small space between adjacent neurons. This space is
called a synapse. Now the way neurons conduct electricity from one to
the next is that, the electrical impulse travels the length of the first
or sending neuron until it gets to the synapse. At this point, the
electricity at the synapse causes the first neuron to release chemicals,
called neurotransmitters, into the synapse. These neurotransmitters
float across the synapse where they then encounter the second or
receiving neuron. Depending on the nature of the second neuron, once the
neurotransmitters contact it, it will either continue the impulse (and
this then would be an excititory neuron), or it will not conduct the
impulse (this is an inhibitory neuron). It is important to appreciate
that there are two types of neurons in the brain, excititory and
inhibitory. This is important for understanding how science explains the
mode of action of hallucinogenic drugs.
As it turns out, the chemical structure of the hallucinogenic looks
very, very similar to the chemical structure of the neurotransmitters in
the brain. Scientist therefore conclude (and quite reasonably) that what
happens when you take a hallucinogenic drug is that the drug gets into
the brain and interferes with the normal operation of the
neurotransmitters. The hallucinogenic drug fools the neurons into
thinking it is a neurotransmitter and it then disrupts the normal flow
of business in the neurons. Now the specific details of how this happens
do not exist. Yet, because the hallucinogens expand the activity in ones
consciousness, scientists believe that whatever hallucinogens are doing
in the brain, ultimately they are disrupting inhibitory synapses. The
idea here is that inhibitory synapsis serve a filtering function in the
brain and that unwanted or unnecessary stimuli are inhibited. If
hallucinogens disrupt this filtering function, then one would expect an
increase in the "noise" level of the brain leading to such activities as
hallucinations or even delusions. Thus, the effects of hallucinogens are
generally seen by scientists to be "noise" (similar to static on a
radio, for example).
There is no question a certain degree of merit to this hypothesis.
However, one could ask as well: Are there perhaps latent functions in
the brain that are turned on by hallucinogens? This point of view has
not been well addressed by scientific research for the simple fact that,
how can you look at something if you don't know it exists? If there are
functions turned on by hallucinogenic drugs in the brain that do not
normally operate in our usual states of consciousness, then scientists
have nothing to compare these states to, and thus are affected by a
blind spot. Still, though this question of turning on latent functions
is not easily addressed in terms of scientific thinking, we shall see
below that occult views provide us a basis to reasonably address this
question.
In spite of any hypothesis scientists may provide as to the operation of
hallucinogens in the nervous system, we must put this discussion in its
proper perspective. Whatever scientists may profess to know about the
activity of hallucinogenic drugs is colored strongly by the fact that
the current scientific understanding of how the brain and nerve cells
work is highly incomplete.
And this point leads us back to philosophy. Because, on one hand,
scientists like to believe that the brain creates consciousness, but on
the other hand, scientist have only a partial and incomplete
understanding of how the brain works. This seems like putting the cart
before the horse to me. It is possible that science will come to
understand in very full detail how the operation of the brain leads to
memory formation and other psychological phenomena. But the point is,
they only have a partial understanding at this point. If you took a
brain scientist (a neurologist, or neurochemist, or whatever) and sat
them down and asked; "how does the brain create consciousness?" they'll
either b.s. You with a bunch of details and never directly answer your
question, or they will out right honestly admit that this question
simply cannot be answered with current knowledge (if you can't dazzle
'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit!). So, the bottom line is,
that science's contention that the brain creates consciousness is more
belief and dogma than it is cold, hard, provable fact.
Now it's important to appreciate this situation, because what it does is
leave the doorway open for alternative explanations. And in this quest
for alternative explanations, we do not have to take an attitude that
science is wrong and the alternatives are right, or vice versa. We can
take a more balanced and reasonable attitude and realize that different
explanations will give us a broader scope on the issue and therefore, in
the end, make our understanding fuller than if we defensively or
dogmatically cling to only one view of things.
So having said this, let us turn to an alternative explanation of lsd's
effects (and any other hallucinogen for that matter), and this is the
explanation given by occultists.

part two next

 

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NOW WHAT YOURE REALLY LOOKING FOR TENNER, the occult explanation of LSD and hallucinogens

HALLUCINOGENIC DRUGS FOR INNER SPACE EXPLORATION, PART TWO
by Donald DeGracia

The following is Part Two of an article that appeared in Issue 6.
It covers many theories and viewpoints concerning the astral dimensions
as related to hallucinogenic drug use.

Occult Explanations Of Hallucinogenic Effects

Now occultists have a much different world-view than scientists, but as
a world-view it is no less complex. For our purposes here what we must
realize is that occultism teaches the opposite of science and that is
that our consciousness is independent from our body. According to
occultists, our body (and therefore our brain as well) is but a
temporary vehicle that houses our consciousness in the span of our life
in the physical world. Occultism also teaches that there are worlds
other than the physical and these worlds are called "planes". Only four
of these planes are significant to humans. These are the physical,
astral, mental and buddhic planes. According to occultists we also have
vehicles or bodies for each of these planes. Thus each of us has an
astral body and mental body and a buddhic body.
It is by this theory that occultism explains the plain facts of our
lives. Occultism teaches that our emotions are our astral body, that our
mind is our mental body, and that our soul or conscience is our buddhic
body. Thus, right from the start, occultism does not bother with the
idea that our physical body creates our mind, emotions or soul (and this
idea of "soul" incidentally, is something science likes to deny).
Instead, occultism claims that all of these vehicles overlap and
interact and create our life and experience as we know and understand
it.
Now it is not my intention here to judge occult theory, or the validity
of these ideas. To an explorer of inner space (especially one who
frequently experiences out-of-body states) this theory is perfectly
obvious. For someone with no comprehension of inner realities or
experiences with altered states of consciousness, all I can say is, this
article is not for you. Go read Carl Sagan or something.
To return to the point, occult theories detail very carefully the manner
in which all the vehicles interact. The interaction of the vehicles is
explained by the theory of the chakras. The chakras are seven (or a
couple more depending on the scope of the occult theory) vortex like
depressions in the astral, mental and buddhic bodies that serve as
energy channels between the bodies. The chakras are energy processing
centers that hold the bodies together and unify mind, body, emotion and
soul into the one framework of our direct experience. Any meditators out
there probably have had direct experiences with their chakras. As it
turns out, the location of the chakras in our other bodies, line up in a
line with the spine of our physical body and they are located wherever
there is a nerve plexus in our physical body.
Furthermore, occultism teaches that there is an intimate feedback and
interplay between all of the bodies, and this feedback is effected
through the chakras. Our physical body also has chakras, but these are
invisible to our physical senses of sight, sound, taste, touch and
hearing. Our physical chakras are made of a type of radiation that is
invisible to our sense (this radiation is called "etheric matter" by
occultists), but they exist nonetheless, and serve as the bridge between
our nervous system and our astral, mental and buddhic bodies.
Chakra theory is very complex. Each chakra serves a variety of specific
functions. These I will only briefly outline here to the extent that it
is relevent to our discussion of hallucinogenic drugs. Here is a list of
the chakras by their common name (the Hindu names can be found in any
worthwhile yoga book). These will be listed from the bottom of the spine
up to the top of the spine, along with the corresponding body locations:

o Root chakra - between the legs;
o Navel chakra - at the waste;
o Spleen chakra - over the navel;
o Heart chakra - over the heart;
o Throat chakra - over the throat;
o Third eye chakra - over the forehead;
o Crown chakra - top of head;

So as not to keep the reader in suspense, the reason I am going into
some detail about chakra theory is that we shall see that it explains
much clearer than science does what happens when under the influence of
hallucinogenic drugs. Now to go into this we need some understanding of
the functions of the chakras. These are listed briefly as:

o Root - sex energy, libido;
o Navel - excretion (kidneys, liver), sensation in general;
o Spleen - digestion, energy input, ability to dream;
o Heart - circulation, empathy;
o Throat - communication, speech, hearing, clairaudience;
o Third-eye - sight, cognition, clairvoyance;
o Crown - brain, thought, spirituality;

What the reader will notice about this list is that each chakra has not
only physical functions or organs associated with it, but as well
subjective and psychological functions associated with it. It is by
means of this theory that occultism explains the relationship between
mind and body and soul. All of these factors are interconnected through
the operation of the chakras. Even though it may seem that we are
getting unnecessarily complex here, we are actually building a very
powerful theoretical framework of how a human is built and operates.
Already at this point we have related biological and psychological
functions in one coherent theory. Science, with its reductionistic
mentality can offer us no equivalent counterpart. Science, as mentioned
above, cannot offer any detailed understanding of how the subjective and
objective facets of our life interrelate. Chakra theory, and occultism
in general, does indeed offer this understanding. And what I shall now
illustrate is that occultism does not contradict or clash with science
in any way. Instead, it offers us an expanded viewpoint that integrates
the facts known to modern science into a larger view of our total
experience as human beings.
So with this minimal picture of occult theory in mind, let us return to
the issue of hallucinogenic drugs. Using occult theory, what we can say
is that hallucinogenic drugs severely affect the behavior of the
chakras. All of the subjective effects listed earlier in this article
can be accounted for as effects of hyperactivity in definite chakras:

o Thus, visual hallucinations are in actuality the stimulation of the
third eye chakra, leading to some degree of clairvoyance, which is the
perception of the adjacent planes.

o Audio hallucinations are the stimulating of the throat chakra to
hyper activity. In this case, one begins to hear on, for example, the
astral plane.

o The mixing of sensory modalities is an effect of the crown chakra,
which is the site of integration, not only of sensory perception, but
astral perception (emotions), and mental perception (thinking). Thus, at
the point of integration (crown chakra) all separate modalities are
blended into a unified consciousness. This effect is enhanced under
hallucinogenics. And the hallucinogenic effect is even more pronounced
because of the fact that we rarely recognize this integration to begin
with. It is there all along but we don't see, and when the drug
stimulates the crown chakra and we are forced to look at this
integration of the modalities of our consciousness, it seems surprising
to us.

o The weakening of ego boundaries is again an effect of increasing the
activity of the crown chakra. In this case, it is not so much that the
ego is loosened but that the ego is seen in its proper perspective in
the totality of our organization as a human being. Again, this is an
effect of the integration function of the crown chakra. The ego (which
effectively is our personal identity) is but one facet of our being. In
our day to day life however, we tend to over emphasize our ego at the
expense of other facets of our being. Again, of the crown chakra. In
this case, it is not so much that the ego is loosened but that the ego
is seen in.

o Enhanced ability to think abstractly. What is happening here is that
the hallucinogen triggers off such an enormous increase in libido energy
(which will be discussed below) that our mind is capable of perceiving a
much vaster range of the mental plane. This effectively translates into
broader, more sweeping and more abstract thoughts.

o The uncontrollable urge to laugh is a classic phenomena indicating
enhanced chakra activity. Laughter is a release of tension. Increasing
the activity of chakras is also a release of tension. The increased
chakra motion effectively burns up the extra energy. An experienced LSD
user is unlikely to have this laughter effect, only a novice who is not
used to the sensations of enhanced chakras would express these
sensations by uncontrollable laughter. This is very similar to how
people laugh when they are nervous or cry when they are very happy.
However, on the hallucinogen, the effect is greatly increased.

o The enhanced empathic ability is mainly a function of the hyper
stimulation of the heart chakra. Our whole ability to be sensitive to
the emotions displayed by others resides in the heart chakra. The
hallucinogenic stimulates the heart chakra, so it is no surprises that a
typical hallucinogenic user is more sensitive to the feelings and
attitudes of others.

o Inability to maintain focus or concentration for long periods. Here
we run into a situation that is probably more a function of the brain
than of the chakra system. It should be pointed out that experienced
hallucinogenic users will report that this effect only lasts for a small
percentage of the time that the drug effects are occurring. Probably
what we are seeing here is the maximum effect of the actual chemical in
the physical body in which there is a maximum disruption of the normal
function of the neurons in the brain. Again, this effect is short lived
(usually about 30-60 minute). And often it seems that this effect is a
prelude to the effect of thinking abstractly. It appears that we are
dealing with distinct phases of the drug experience here and with effect
number 5, again, with number 8 here preceding number 5.

o Feelings of extreme joy. This effect is literally the opposite of
effect 10: feelings of extreme terror and/or depression. What he have
here is an amplification of ones normal state of mind by the enhanced
libido of the drug. Whatever the user is feeling becomes greatly
magnified, so reports of extreme emotional states are common. Also,
since emotion is generally a function of the concerted (simultaneous)
operation of the four lower chakras, we find here evidence that the
hallucinogen is affecting not only the higher chakras (throat, third-eye
and crown) but the lower ones as well. Again, this will be generalized
below.

o Finally, the direct apprehension of God. It is in studying this
hallucinogenic effect that we can begin to tie together many elements of
this article. We have seen that intellectuals such as Huxley, Watts, and
Leary identified the LSD experience with religious experience. It is
also a common, though reasonably accurate picture that the guy in the
nut house thinks he's Jesus. Furthermore, all yoga texts worth reading
explain that the function of yoga is ultimately to transfer all of the
libido energy to the crown chakra at which point the yogi achieves
nirvana, or mystical insight, which, practically speaking, is *the*
total, integrative psychological event. One directly perceives the unity
of the cosmos, and ones place in this unity. For all practical purposes,
this is indeed seeing God. That Western intellectuals have perceived
this in a religious context, and Western physicians have perceived this
in the context of psychosis, really tells us something about Western
intellectuals and Western doctors. All I can ask is: "Who would you
invite over for dinner, or have watch your kids?"

At this point, I would like to attempt to generalize this picture of the
action of hallucinogenic drugs on the chakras system. One important
facet of occult teaching I have not explicitly stated yet, though I have
been using it, is the idea of "kundalini". Yogis and occultists teach
that housed in the root chakra is a fundamental energy called kundalini.
This energy is depicted as a coiled snake and it is the goal of the yogi
and occultist to, slowly and in a controlled manner, release this
energy. The purpose for releasing this energy is to bring it
progressively through the chakras, which in turn confers the particular
psychic abilities associated with that chakra. This process is known as
"awakening" or "vivifying" a chakra. This energy is brought up the spine
(or the etheric counterpart thereof) and its final destination is the
crown chakra, which, upon successfully reaching, confers enlightenment,
which is the true goal of both yoga and occultism, as well as mysticism.
Bringing the kundalini to the crown chakra is exactly the method by
which enlightenment is conferred. This is a well known and well accepted
fact in Eastern cultures in which the yoga tradition is kept alive.
Above I used the word "libido", a word derived from Freud that loosely
translates as "sex energy". Libido is kundalini. However, the idea of
kundalini is much broader and clearer than Freud's concept of libido, so
I will now use the word kundalini from here on out.
So with this backgound, let us attempt to give a general explanation, in
occult terms, of the effect of hallucinogenic drugs on a human being.
What seems to be happening during the hallucinogenic experience is that
the kundalini is spontaneously activated by the drug. How this occurs I
do not know. I can speculate that probably what happens is that the
hallucinogenic somehow affects the gland system of the body (which is
called the endocrine system and includes the adrenal glands, thyroid,
parathyroid, pituitary and pineal glands, among others), not simply the
brain. I make this statement about the endocrine system because
occultist often point out the crucial role played by the pineal and
pituitary glands in meditative practices. In a fashion that is very ill
defined both scientifically and occultly, these glands play an intimate
role in relation to the kundalini. Unfortunately, not much more than
this can be said.
Somehow, the drug confers changes in the endocrine system of the body
that result in the stimulation of the kundalini. The kundalini becomes
active in an uncontrolled fashion, which is literally the opposite of
yoga in which kundalini is slowly and painstakingly controlled over
years of meditative practices. The onset of alterations in the LSD
user's perception corresponds with the onset of the kundalini release.
As this energy is released in a spontaneous and uncontrolled fashion,
any number of psychological and subjective events are possible that
would be completely dependent on the circumstances under which the drug
was taken. This then is the explanation of Timothy Leary's notion of
"set and setting".

Hallucinogenic Drugs And Inner Exploration

At this point we have completed our overview of hallucinogenic
substances. We've briefly mentioned the history, discussed the
subjective effects of these drugs, and gone into some detail of
scientific and occult explanations of why these drugs do what they do to
human beings. In this last section, I would like to try to tie all of
this together in terms of how these drugs provide a tool for the
individual interested in exploring his or her own subjectivity, the
inner spaces of ones being.
Going off on all the occult chakra theory as I did above has one
overridingly important lesson to it, and that is the realization that
hallucinogenics do in one hour what yogis spend their lives trying to
accomplish. The release of the kundalini energy is no small or trivial
matter. My friend that I mentioned earlier likes to compare LSD and
related substances to nuclear bombs. Both are immediate, almost
uncomprehensively powerful, and can kill a lot more readily than they
can heal. LSD is something to be respected, if not revered, because it
is indeed a doorway to many divine things. I would not discourage one
from taking the drug. However, I do not advocate the careless use of the
drug either. If one is interested in using it as a tool for experiencing
realities that current dogma tells us do not exist, well, I recommend
that the explorer exercise respect for this particular tool. And then,
as an explorer, you can see that current dogma is simply wrong.
Another purpose for going off on both scientific and occult theory is to
show that there is way more going on here than meets they eye. In this
regard, I have a favorite quote by Leadbeater that says it all: "We must
beware of falling into the fatally common error of supposing that what
we see is all there is to see." LSD, and hallucinogenic drugs in
general, can be used as a tool to give concrete substance to
Leadbeater's statement. The watchful and attentive hallucinogenic user
will learn many things about the hidden worlds that we cannot perceive
with our physical senses, ranging from things as unbelievable as seeing
the cells inside your brain, to seeing atoms and molecules, to readily
perceiving abstractions so glorious as to defy your very being, all the
way to -dare I say it -seeing God first hand, and allowing God to talk
through your mouth. On this note, I'd like to end this article with a
quote by Aleister Crowley, (taken from "The Book Of Wisdom Or Folly)
that absolutely captures the spirit of this article:
"Concerning the Use of Chymical Agents, and be mindful that thou abuse
them not, learn that the Sacrament itself relateth to Spirit, and the
Four Elements balanced thereunder, in its Perfection."

 

[Tenner]

*gets tired half way* Thats a lot of text to read! (No sleep for 48 hours, my eyes are gonna hang out the sockets ) I read halfway. The thing is, I`m a great beliver in documented data in forms other than science, hence I`m the scientist uniting every single claim and word into sense. I agree, I can feel my chakra when I do Yoga. I agree that I can imagine a vital force flowing through me (prana). But I still seee this as our feelings, the way we perceive.

I`m not questioning your beliefs here Haddaway. I will continue reading this occult explanation, I`m sure it is full of data. I will also keep my scientific view and keep using chakras and prana to my advantage as these are the tools out of my scientist toolbox, I`m not into the belief system myself. I`m into instruction manuals for my body and mind created by people with mighty kinaesthetic sense and willpower. I`m a weird one, I will promote yoga endlessly but only use and respect it

Its like a crate of apples for me. I sniff one, hmmm rotten throw it away. I sniff one YUM! Only food for the mind for me

 

[Haddaway]

*gets tired half way* Thats a lot of text to read! (No sleep for 48 hours, my eyes are gonna hang out the sockets ) I read halfway. The thing is, I`m a great beliver in documented data in forms other than science, hence I`m the scientist uniting every single claim and word into sense. I agree, I can feel my chakra when I do Yoga. I agree that I can imagine a vital force flowing through me (prana). But I still seee this as our feelings, the way we perceive.

I`m not questioning your beliefs here Haddaway. I will continue reading this occult explanation, I`m sure it is full of data. I will also keep my scientific view and keep using chakras and prana to my advantage as these are the tools out of my scientist toolbox, I`m not into the belief system myself. I`m into instruction manuals for my body and mind created by people with mighty kinaesthetic sense and willpower. I`m a weird one, I will promote yoga endlessly but only use and respect it

Its like a crate of apples for me. I sniff one, hmmm rotten throw it away. I sniff one YUM! Only food for the mind for me

Remember, I am a Chemistry major.

 

[Puffer Fish]

Remember, I am a Chemistry major.

That is the whole point ... you are very 'specific' in how you understand things ...
The way your brain digests reality ... as you think in framework of chemistry .... realize ...
Even taking into consideration your age ...
You have not even graduated ...
Did not even get your feet wet ... Hadd ...
And had no time to digest all you have experienced .... even emotionally ....

Perspective ...

 

[Haddaway]

That is the whole point ... you are very 'specific' in how you understand things ...
The way your brain digests reality ... as you think in framework of chemistry .... realize ...
Even taking into consideration your age ...
You have not even graduated ...
Did not even get your feet wet ... Hadd ...
And had no time to digest all you have experienced .... even emotionally ....

Perspective ...

I agree. I am a peapod in a sea of watermelons.

 

[Tenner]

Remember, I am a Chemistry major.

I`m not daft with chemistry. I had my own chemistry lab at home, all self taught and all practical. Included were electronic and biology labs too. Added some chemistry theory on that and read Keith Skene`s book on evolutionary biology to top it all up. Also woodworking, tile manufacturing, lathe working, welding you name it. The point is I`m a VERY nuts&bolts person and have lot of understanding of mechanisms. If you were to ask me the answer of conciousness does not lie in Chemistry. It lies in Electronics which I studied for 3 years Conciousness might seem like a great wonderful mystique to you but I`m a strong beliver this is all a magnificent programming done by the fine engineering of nature. Weather neurons or neurochemical interactions, our conciousness is the product of flowing electrons and that is exactly my point, as that equates us to computers, yet the only power computers hold at the moment are Transistors and Diodes. They have no chance in proving a point against a self-engineering biocomputer, which its biggest advantage is the "different and very quick working electron flow controllers"... It will happen and those computers will not be concious.

Doesn`t saying we are concious, transcending beings make us "important"?



Self taught microphotography included

 

[Full Circle]

Hey racerboy 71 .... For some reason the forum will not allow me to send you a PM ... Care to send me a PM with an email address where I can reach you ? Cheers bud !

Orrrr .... Maybe my friend Tenner can help me reach racerboy 71 ??? Hint hint LOL

 

[Full Circle]

Nuts and bolts ... evolutionary biology .... neurochemical interactions .... and transcending beings ???? WTF man ????

I am sober dude ... SOBER !!!! I can not deal with shit like this in my thread !

And someone mentioned home chemsitry labs ???? For me chemistry is when I pour the Kool Aid mix in the glass of water ! Fucking trying to kill me or what ?

I can NOT wait until I get to Cali in a few weeks ! Just one hour away from the world's largest Medical Mary J store ! Oh yeah ... then you fuckers better watch out ! Cause I may actually even understand some of what you are saying ! And it may no longer make me want to flog a midget with a cactus ! Sheesh ....

 

[Tenner]

Nuts and bolts ... evolutionary biology .... neurochemical interactions .... and transcending beings ???? WTF man ????

I am sober dude ... SOBER !!!! I can not deal with shit like this in my thread !

And someone mentioned home chemsitry labs ???? For me chemistry is when I pour the Kool Aid mix in the glass of water ! Fucking trying to kill me or what ?

I can NOT wait until I get to Cali in a few weeks ! Just one hour away from the world's largest Medical Mary J store ! Oh yeah ... then you fuckers better watch out ! Cause I may actually even understand some of what you are saying ! And it may no longer make me want to flog a midget with a cactus ! Sheesh ....

You won`t be sober for much longer bro I`m contemplating eating this half tab up now... Haven`t slept for 48 hours but still... YUM!

 

[Tenner]

A decision is a decision, you gotta be STERN!! Whats a TINY piece of paper gonna do eh? eh??

 

[Full Circle]

A decision is a decision, you gotta be STERN!! Whats a TINY piece of paper gonna do eh? eh??

After 48 hrs without sleep ? Who fuckin knows ... Let's find out ! LOL

Bet you feel like Golum huh

 

[Puffer Fish]

I`m not daft with chemistry. I had my own chemistry lab at home, all self taught and all practical. Included were electronic and biology labs too. Added some chemistry theory on that and read Keith Skene`s book on evolutionary biology to top it all up. Also woodworking, tile manufacturing, lathe working, welding you name it. The point is I`m a VERY nuts&bolts person and have lot of understanding of mechanisms. If you were to ask me the answer of conciousness does not lie in Chemistry. It lies in Electronics which I studied for 3 years Conciousness might seem like a great wonderful mystique to you but I`m a strong beliver this is all a magnificent programming done by the fine engineering of nature. Weather neurons or neurochemical interactions, our conciousness is the product of flowing electrons and that is exactly my point, as that equates us to computers, yet the only power computers hold at the moment are Transistors and Diodes. They have no chance in proving a point against a self-engineering biocomputer, which its biggest advantage is the "different and very quick working electron flow controllers"... It will happen and those computers will not be concious.

Doesn`t saying we are concious, transcending beings make us "important"?

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Kid that is why you rock ... !
Once you specialize you loose focus of what it ALL IS .... in context of existence through time ... !

TeN For !

 

[Full Circle]

Well fuck ! Bear with be guys. I have to have 50 posts to receive and send PMs ... And there just may be some hot ass Brazilian Super Model stoner chicks who want to light my bong while giving me head !!! And I would never even know it .... SO I will try and make my posts intelligent, but a posting fool I now is !

 

[Tenner]

After 48 hrs without sleep ? Who fuckin knows ... Let's find out ! LOL

Bet you feel like Golum huh

Started off that way but I`m feeling like a very happy Golum now

 

[Full Circle]

First off ... can someone tell me what TOR is ?

 

[Haddaway]

I`m not daft with chemistry. I had my own chemistry lab at home, all self taught and all practical. Included were electronic and biology labs too. Added some chemistry theory on that and read Keith Skene`s book on evolutionary biology to top it all up. Also woodworking, tile manufacturing, lathe working, welding you name it. The point is I`m a VERY nuts&bolts person and have lot of understanding of mechanisms. If you were to ask me the answer of conciousness does not lie in Chemistry. It lies in Electronics which I studied for 3 years Conciousness might seem like a great wonderful mystique to you but I`m a strong beliver this is all a magnificent programming done by the fine engineering of nature. Weather neurons or neurochemical interactions, our conciousness is the product of flowing electrons and that is exactly my point, as that equates us to computers, yet the only power computers hold at the moment are Transistors and Diodes. They have no chance in proving a point against a self-engineering biocomputer, which its biggest advantage is the "different and very quick working electron flow controllers"... It will happen and those computers will not be concious.

Doesn`t saying we are concious, transcending beings make us "important"?

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I understand where your coming from, bro. I don't know too much about electronics, even though I do somewhat because of physics classes I have taken. I think it really depends what you focus on, and how much you've read of it. It makes your brain work a certain way and you start applying the universe in that unique perspective. What that DOESN'T mean is that all other perspective are wrong, they're just different. I honestly believe you can make a unified theory to string together all principles and ideologies together to create one huge universal theory of the universe. They've been try ing in quantum physics FOREVER. It's fucking difficult. It's hard to think in so many variables and pathways at once. Which is why you need a group of geniuses working together from different fields to really accomplish anything, but that usually ends in arguments lol. We need to work together, not against each other! This is why I combine metaphysics with chemistry, and quantum physics, etc. I would like to integrate microbiology and neuropharmacology, neuropsychology/psychology, electronics, quantum physics, metaphysics, etc,etc. all together. IT MY GOAL IN LIFE AND ITS WHY I DO WHAT I DO!!

 

[Haddaway]

First off ... can someone tell me what TOR is ?

It's a kind of server that hides your ip. It is how you go on silkroad (huge market of illegal drugs on the internet, and how you go on the now undrugged)

 

[Tenner]

Kid that is why you rock ... !
Once you specialize you loose focus of what it ALL IS .... in context of existence through time ... !

TeN For !

Thanks PuffFfffFFffFFFFff

I had a brief chat with ANC and he is mad crazy on his projects too. Planning on CNC`s etc...