New Bill to Legalize MJ Federally

[tryingtogrow89]

Speculating. LOL.

Who is 'they?' And just how would 'they' manage to infiltrate every company which produced cannabis? How would 'they' get additives into my grow room? How would they manage to sneak additives into a small boutique grow business?

Business don't earn profits by selling shit. It would not be in a company's interest to reduce quality.

Let industry into the game and stand back. There will be fields of cannabis growing domestically. Cured correctly. That pack of jays at the Seven-Eleven might not be boutique quality, but it will be far better than schwag.

If that offends your sensibilities, don't buy it.

Grow it...

As I do now, and will then.

"They" would most likely be big tobacco, its not that hard to consider, its a no brainer really, especially considering marlboro already has a patent on a pack of jays.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Also "they" meaning government would restrict it just like anything else intoxicating. You can bet they would have THC percentile restrictions.
As mentioned before it wouldn't be feasible for little ma and pa grows to keep it up especially if your using good nutes and what not.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

"They" would most likely be big tobacco, its not that hard to consider, its a no brainer really, especially considering marlboro already has a patent on a pack of jays.

Okay, so you SPECULATE that big tobacco will include additives in its product.

First question: If they were to do that would you buy it?

Follow-up to first question: If they were to do that would anyone buy it?

Second question: How will big tobacco sneak these additives into the growing operations of other companies who are not big tobacco?

Third question: How will big tobacco infiltrate my curing jars in order to add chemicals and shit to my herb?

Hey I have a great idea which might prevent spooky big tobacco from using harmful additives: REGULATION.

 

[UncleBuck]

Also "they" meaning government would restrict it just like anything else intoxicating. You can bet they would have THC percentile restrictions.
As mentioned before it wouldn't be feasible for little ma and pa grows to keep it up especially if your using good nutes and what not.

currently, the fed gov sets a 0% thc percentile restriction.

for some reason though, when i smoke weed, it gets me high.

does not compute.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

currently, the fed gov sets a 0% thc percentile restriction.

for some reason though, when i smoke weed, it gets me high.

does not compute.

lol prohibition is the reason man.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Okay, so you SPECULATE that big tobacco will include additives in its product.

First question: If they were to do that would you buy it?

Follow-up to first question: If they were to do that would anyone buy it?

Second question: How will big tobacco sneak these additives into the growing operations of other companies who are not big tobacco?

Third question: How will big tobacco infiltrate my curing jars in order to add chemicals and shit to my herb?

Hey I have a great idea which might prevent spooky big tobacco from using harmful additives: REGULATION.

1st answer: cheaper. follow up answer cheap!
2nd answer: they manufacture it just as with tobacco.
3rd answer: that's if you grow your own, that's without saying.
REGULATION does not stop big tobacco from adding "harmful" additives now what would stop them with weed?

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Also "they" meaning government would restrict it just like anything else intoxicating. You can bet they would have THC percentile restrictions.
As mentioned before it wouldn't be feasible for little ma and pa grows to keep it up especially if your using good nutes and what not.

Wait...

Is 'they' big tobacco or is it government?

Regulation is something we must be prepared to accept. If government regulators require commercial cannabis producers to label their product for potency, that seems to me like a GOOD thing.

But restrict it? That would be backdoor prohibition. Frankly, I just don't see it happening.

Right now were suffering under the most repressive regulation possible, and Ma and Pa both seem to be doing pretty well in places where decriminalization, and especially MMJ, have taken hold.

You are manufacturing problems.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Wait...

Is 'they' big tobacco or is it government?

Regulation is something we must be prepared to accept. If government regulators require commercial cannabis producers to label their product for potency, that seems to me like a GOOD thing.

But restrict it? That would be backdoor prohibition. Frankly, I just don't see it happening.

Right now were suffering under the most repressive regulation possible, and Ma and Pa both seem to be doing pretty well in places where decriminalization, and especially MMJ, have taken hold.

You are manufacturing problems.

Decriminalization is a whole different animal man.
I know plenty of growers who are all for decriminalization, but not for legalization. I don't think i need to explain why, if you think hard enough it should be clear as to why.
Sure backdoor regulation is everywhere, look around you'll see.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

What is this, a Netflix radio spot?

1st answer: cheaper. follow up answer cheap!
2nd answer: they manufacture it just as with tobacco.
3rd answer: that's if you grow your own, that's without saying.
REGULATION does not stop big tobacco from adding "harmful" additives now what would stop them with weed?

I asked two 'yes or no' questions and you respond 'cheap' and 'cheaper.'

'Labradoodle' would have made just as much sense.

I'll answer them for you.

First: Yes, I would but it if I had no other choice. I would purchase the brand labeled 'additive free.' Does American Spirit ring a bell? They are big tobacco. No additives.

The follow-up answer is yes with the very same reasoning.

Question two. Non-responsive. I will re-phrase. How does that affect non big tobacco companies who will also produce and sell their own cannabis?

Question three. Well played.

Decriminalization is a whole different animal man.
I know plenty of growers who are all for decriminalization, but not for legalization. I don't think i need to explain why, if you think hard enough it should be clear as to why.

It sure is. A horrible, horrible animal.

Decriminalization means we agree with 'The Man' that there is something inherently wrong with using cannabis.

It's still illegal so the cartels and black markets continue to flourish.

Sure backdoor regulation is everywhere, look around you'll see.

I wrote 'backdoor prohibition.'

Labradoodle.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

I had regulation on the mind. You know creature of habit so to speak, a little human error, also could be the weed, also my nuts inched, you know distraction factor in there as well.
I thought cheaper and cheap was self explanatory as to weather i was emphasizing on yes or no with my cheaper,cheap answer. -shrug.
I feel the need to point out the obvious by saying Prohibition and or decriminalization adds to the potency/profit sector there is no denying that.
I would say something like Spider goat but it wouldn't work because they exist

 

[UncleBuck]

i approve of this exchange.

labradoodle.

 

[namtih024]

in opinion, based on all mass produced products in the world quality would eventually go down on mass produced cannabis. think about it farms of cannabis would be much like farms of everything else, they cant use clones on 50 acres of land, and weeding out males would be a huge task. it would probably be harvested with commercial machinery, and de-stemmed and de-seeded also using commercial machinery. everything else would probably be immediately ground and dried then pre-rolled and filtered. then sold in packs of twenty just like cigarettes. so it would probably be similar to swag if you ask me.
that said like fine wine there will always be a demand for connoisseur grade bud. individual companies will thrive selling high grade cannabis at competing prices.
if you walk into a cali dispensary you will not find any mass produced pot. all of there product is somewhat local (everything is grown in california) on a federal level you will have companies similar to alcohol and cigarette brands supplying people accross the nation with identical (or as consistant as possible) marijuana.

but that wont be for quite some time even if the bill is legalized. all this amazing bill does is stop federal regulation except for accross state lines. the people in medical marijuana states will be ecstatic at the fact that they no longer have to worry about dea raids on there favorite dispensary. with this bill marijuana industries will finally be able to move out of the dark. no matter what the state says every dispensary is breaking federal law at the moment and lives with constant fear of being sent to jail.
this bill puts marijuana regulation back in the states hands. for those who do not have medical marijuana or decriminalized marijuana they are still in the same boat as before.
still this is a huge step forward and is the best first step for making marijuana legal across the USA, and eventually the globe.

as for additives. maybe one day. but i don't see the current generation standing for any additives in there bud. i wouldn't, especially since i can grow my own. although there already are plenty of things added to bud as it is. ive seen bud that had fabuloso (a mexican cleaning product), amonia, urine, pesticides, bud mold, insect carcases, powdery mildew, webs, insect nest, and even a human finger! all of/ most of these in sacks purchased in non-legal areas, so legalization may actually stop additives in bud, except pesticides and cultural problems that people try to sell as safe bud anyways

 

[Johnnyorganic]

I had regulation on the mind. You know creature of habit so to speak, a little human error, also could be the weed, also my nuts inched, you know distraction factor in there as well.

I gotcha, I think. You meant backdoor prohibition. If so, you are correct, regulations can serve that purpose if the political climate allows it. But it only goes so far.

The federal government tries to curtail the 2nd Amendment that way. But that pesky thing won't go away.

The federal government could over-regulate big tobbaco into bankruptcy easily, but they don't. Why? Because the government makes too much money off of tobacco to eliminate that particular revenue stream.

I though cheaper and cheap was self explanatory as to weather i was emphasizing on yes or no with my cheaper,cheap answer. -shrug.

'Cheap' and 'cheaper' could each have several meanings. I did not know if you were saying you were cheap, the quality of the cannabis would be cheap, or the price would be cheap.

Ditto for the answer relating to anyone and 'cheaper.'

I feel the need to point out the obvious by saying Prohibition and or decriminalization adds to the potency/profit sector there is no denying that.

It is not obvious.

Potency will not be affected by re-legalization for reasons already stated.

The profit sector will shift from criminals to legitimate business people.

And there is no denying that.

I would say something like Spider goat but it wouldn't work because they exist

It would have worked because labradoodles exist.

I had to Google it just now to be certain.

But they do.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

I gotcha, I think. You meant backdoor prohibition. If so, you are correct, regulations can serve that purpose if the political climate allows it. But it only goes so far.

The federal government tries to curtail the 2nd Amendment that way. But that pesky thing won't go away.

The federal government could over-regulate big tobbaco into bankruptcy easily, but they don't. Why? Because the government makes too much money off of tobacco to eliminate that particular revenue stream.


'Cheap' and 'cheaper' could each have several meanings. I did not know if you were saying you were cheap, the quality of the cannabis would be cheap, or the price would be cheap.

Ditto for the answer relating to anyone and 'cheaper.'


It is not obvious.

Potency will not be affected by re-legalization for reasons already stated.

The profit sector will shift from criminals to legitimate business people.

And there is not denying that.


It would have worked because labradoodles exist.

I had to Google it just now to be certain.

But they do.

Does not surprise me at all, i was already pondering if it could probably exist already. what will they think of next?

 

[ozman]

Well I personally wouldnt buy the shit that would be sold at 7-11 my feelings would it would be to much liike the mexi crap around now just extra low quality schwag.Aftwr commercial proccessing was over all the glands would be knocked off I think.I may be wrong on that but it's my opinion.
They meaning the government,FDA,and anybody else that would be included to regulate marijuana would make it so it's just a little better then tobacco.My biggest question at this point is would the DHS allow seeds to be imported if this was passed?I didn't read anything to the contrary and don't want to mix mash the wording of the bill.If seeds are allowed to be imported and or sold in the USA then I think the potency would most assurdly skyrocket.That would be a good thing.
I also would think then that a properly licensed "coffee shop" in the USA would not sell shwag at least there you could see what you was buying before you bought it.
We all need to keep on keeping on with HR2306,keep their feet to the fire. This is our best shot I'm sure for a long time.

Here is a link http://conyers.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.OnlineContactForm

this gentleman is the ying to the yang we need to write this man in his support of pushing this thru the committee.He is the one we have on our side that can get it brought up in the committee.Everybody write him and support him tell your dad your mom your brothers,sisters,and anybody else on our side to write him in support of HR2306.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

in opinion, based on all mass produced products in the world quality would eventually go down on mass produced cannabis. think about it farms of cannabis would be much like farms of everything else, they cant use clones on 50 acres of land, and weeding out males would be a huge task. it would probably be harvested with commercial machinery, and de-stemmed and de-seeded also using commercial machinery. everything else would probably be immediately ground and dried then pre-rolled and filtered. then sold in packs of twenty just like cigarettes. so it would probably be similar to swag if you ask me.

It will be better than schwag, because it will replace it in our market. Regulation will mean no Mexican wee wee or cleaning products in the cannabis we (well, not me) smoke. Talk about nasty additives!

We rely on clones now because seeds are so expensive. Why? Prohibition.

But those are just details.

Trust me. The minute we allow this stuff to be legal again, the farmers will work it all out.

that said like fine wine there will always be a demand for connoisseur grade bud. individual companies will thrive selling high grade cannabis at competing prices.
if you walk into a cali dispensary you will not find any mass produced pot. all of there product is somewhat local (everything is grown in california) on a federal level you will have companies similar to alcohol and cigarette brands supplying people accross the nation with identical (or as consistant as possible) marijuana.

The point has been made previously, but I agree.

but that wont be for quite some time even if the bill is legalized. all this amazing bill does is stop federal regulation except for accross state lines. the people in medical marijuana states will be ecstatic at the fact that they no longer have to worry about dea raids on there favorite dispensary. with this bill marijuana industries will finally be able to move out of the dark. no matter what the state says every dispensary is breaking federal law at the moment and lives with constant fear of being sent to jail.
this bill puts marijuana regulation back in the states hands. for those who do not have medical marijuana or decriminalized marijuana they are still in the same boat as before.
still this is a huge step forward and is the best first step for making marijuana legal across the USA, and eventually the globe.

as for additives. maybe one day. but i don't see the current generation standing for any additives in there bud. i wouldn't, especially since i can grow my own. although there already are plenty of things added to bud as it is. ive seen bud that had fabuloso (a mexican cleaning product), amonia, urine, pesticides, bud mold, insect carcases, powdery mildew, webs, insect nest, and even a human finger! all of/ most of these in sacks purchased in non-legal areas, so legalization may actually stop additives in bud, except pesticides and cultural problems that people try to sell as safe bud anyways

Agreed. People would buy American Spirit brand cannabis.

 

[ozman]

Speaking of additives who here remembers paraquot?And how it had to stop being used because of all the illnesses it caused to American people smoking the mex brick weed?I remember those days they where a long time ago and yea I'm a old fart I guess,I don't feel old yet,but I remember way back then.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Speaking of additives who here remembers paraquot?And how it had to stop being used because of all the illnesses it caused to American people smoking the mex brick weed?I remember those days they where a long time ago and yea I'm a old fart I guess,I don't feel old yet,but I remember way back then.

I am not too old but i remember.

 

[jeff f]

"they" are very powerful, johnny.

he can tell you about some of the things "they" are up to.

you can bet your ass if "they" is the govt, "they" will fuck it up. if it is left to the market, you will see a great variety of varying potency and taste....just like beer.

did i mention i love beer?

 

[Johnnyorganic]

you can bet your ass if "they" is the govt, "they" will fuck it up. if it is left to the market, you will see a great variety of varying potency and taste....just like beer.

did i mention i love beer?

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