Do You Believe In Ghosts?

[Thundakat85]

In one aspect i believe there are ,but it certainly is not the stereotypical ghost that we think when we here the word "ghost".More like ones left over energy that has yet to leave this plane for some reason or another.To most it will be nonesense to believe or think that there are or may be ghosts among us.It is yet again ones own life experience that will determine the opinion or belief of this subject matter.

My question to you is, what other aspect of the word "ghost" would anyone assume that there is? I mean besides what you hear or see in movies I suppose. I think we all generally think of a ghost as the energy or other form of manifestation of someone or something that has not left this planet/world/plane, correct? I agree that one's own experiences will predetermine their views on the subject matter. But IMO, to think that what we only see with the naked eye is all that is there, it's a bit selfish.

 

[Dislexicmidget2021]

I could not say what other aspect anyone would perceive that there is,its only the often given responses on the subject that has forgone any subjective thought leaving them without a greater concept of ghosts and what they very well may be, thats all i meant by it.

 

[euthanatos93420]

Brilliant. Ghosts ARE real. Want me to prove it? You are reading this thread. Whatever ghosts REALLY are, they've left an impression on enough people that they won't shut the fuck up about it. They are, if nothing else, a mental memetic.

 

[guy incognito]

People talk about unicorns too.

 

[grizlbr]

Spirit is real! You got one, it goes somewhere when you die. So yes I have seen spirit. If you want to call it the ghost of my great aunt SO? It Was her bedroom before I used it. Body soul spirit look it up so you will understand before you reach the happy hunting grounds and be left outside!

 

[euthanatos93420]

People talk about unicorns too.

Eunuch Horns are real too.

 

[obijohn]

I'm not doing much in the past year, but I've been involved with several investigative groups and believe me, there IS something. My theory is it may be interdimensional, at least in part.

We investigated a place where the residents saw a little girl who wasn't so nice, they had a room for their baby and the ghost kept telling them it was HER room and she would kill the baby. They went to stay elsewhere but let us in and hung around for the investigation. We got lots of EVP's, and saw the little girl! My wife and I were in the room, playing the lullaby CD that they played for the baby (and that was playing during her appearances) My wife was holding a doll as a trigger objext, suddenly a bright spark flew across the room...and the little girl partly manifested, no legs or head but we saw her dress and arms. My wife tried to coax her closer, the EMF detector went nuts, but she just kind of faded away.

We told the residents about it and described the dress. The pulled a dress out of a drawer and it was the same one, their daughter's baptism dress! One group member is a sensitive, she felt that before the condo was built there was a man and his family that lived there, and he did something bad to his young daughter. I was alone in the room trying to record EVP's, it was almost time to go and I was trying to get a reaction. I said "are you the man who harmed his daughter?" When listening back, there was a clear "fuck" in a male voice after I said that.


Another time we were investigating a home. Lots of our gear was in the living room, we were in different parts of the house. I came out to get something from my case. I had a digital recorder going all the time with me. As I was getting my stuff I was talking, saying stuff like we are here to help you but you have to let us know you are here and the like. I had some trouble finding what I needed, but finally did and left the room. On reviewing the recorder, after I said that, we could here several voices murmuring, with the clearest one saying "look at him, he doesn't know what he's doing. How is he going to help us?"
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[whileilaydying]

whos to say you have a spirit?
and not that your brain has just been trained through alot of time to think it has one

 

[THâ ­]

lol this is awesome

 

[Thundakat85]

I could not say what other aspect anyone would perceive that there is,its only the often given responses on the subject that has forgone any subjective thought leaving them without a greater concept of ghosts and what they very well may be, thats all i meant by it.

I can agree with that. Youre basically saying that maybe people don't fully get the concept of a ghost? Perhaps that people cant fully get it because the only things talked about in mainstream media are things such as "EVPS", or "Did you hear that tapping?". I guess everyone is a ghost hunter now-a-days. People are more interested in seeing a cool ghost pic, rather than actually trying to find out what it is, or study it.

 

[obijohn]

I can agree with that. Youre basically saying that maybe people don't fully get the concept of a ghost? Perhaps that people cant fully get it because the only things talked about in mainstream media are things such as "EVPS", or "Did you hear that tapping?". I guess everyone is a ghost hunter now-a-days. People are more interested in seeing a cool ghost pic, rather than actually trying to find out what it is, or study it.

Yeah, that's kind of screwed up the paranormal field. People WANT to see things, and have ghosts etc on their mind so every noise or whatever MUST be a ghost

 

[euthanatos93420]

People are more interested in seeing a cool ghost pic, rather than actually trying to find out what it is, or study it.

This, fucking this. Anyone who has watched more than a handful of GhosTV type shit need to read John Keel's Trojan Horse and shit brix.

 

[Dislexicmidget2021]

Ill say this much though,i grew up in a house were my great grandfather killed himself with a shotgun in the back of the house.At night there would be some real crazy sensations about the place..very eerie....I know pretty f%$ed up right?

 

[Padawanbater2]

All in the head.

 

[GoldenGanja13]

Every religion says you have a spirit. Just give a thought to how many religions there are in the world.

whos to say you have a spirit?
and not that your brain has just been trained through alot of time to think it has one

 

[GoldenGanja13]

Speaking of dolls~ I was in staying in a hotel with my girlfriend. She was very dark and had very dark attributes (spiritually). She had a doll that would freak me out more than my unusual fear of dolls to start, anyways she went into the bathroom and I was sitting at the end of the bed and I looked behind me and there sat the "doll" at the head of the bed. I yelled at my GF " Beth, I told you not to have that doll out when I'm around!" I heard a thud against the wall and the doll somehow was laying on the floor below the thud I heard.
There was only 2 people in a small 1 bed hotel room and she was around the corner in BR. and the doll went from bed to wall and landed on floor !

 

[MixedMelodyMindBender]

Every religion says you have a spirit. Just give a thought to how many religions there are in the world.

And everyone one of them is BULL... I have just as much faith as the faithful, that there is no god, nor a need for religion.

Religion says a lot of things...all of which are yet to be proven in any fashion as true. Blind faith, Blind People.

 

[GoldenGanja13]

John Lennon once said " "As usual, there is a great woman behind every idiot."

And everyone one of them is BULL... I have just as much faith as the faithful, that there is no god, nor a need for religion.

 

[Thundakat85]

And everyone one of them is BULL... I have just as much faith as the faithful, that there is no god, nor a need for religion.

Religion says a lot of things...all of which are yet to be proven in any fashion as true. Blind faith, Blind People.

I agree to some extent. But only to the extent that I'm not exactly sure what to believe only because I was not around for any of what is told to be our history. However, that doesn't mean that any religion is wrong. The general consensus is that most people believe in a god of their liking, either what they've been brought up to know or the one that makes the most sense to them. I'll admit I'll be one of the first to apologize when I die and go to heaven and get rejected because I didn't believe. Again, it's not that don't necessarily believe in what the texts say, but how do you know the bible wasn't just some book that someone wrote centuries ago that was just supposed to be a story? I mean I can't sit here and say all religions are bull because, to each his own. I can't slam someone for their faith. Your faith is in a sense a matter of your opinion. Opinions are everyone's rights as a human being.

 

[Heisenberg]

I agree to some extent. But only to the extent that I'm not exactly sure what to believe only because I was not around for any of what is told to be our history. However, that doesn't mean that any religion is wrong. The general consensus is that most people believe in a god of their liking, either what they've been brought up to know or the one that makes the most sense to them. I'll admit I'll be one of the first to apologize when I die and go to heaven and get rejected because I didn't believe. Again, it's not that don't necessarily believe in what the texts say, but how do you know the bible wasn't just some book that someone wrote centuries ago that was just supposed to be a story? I mean I can't sit here and say all religions are bull because, to each his own. I can't slam someone for their faith. Your faith is in a sense a matter of your opinion. Opinions are everyone's rights as a human being.

"faith" is what we call it when we can't justify our belief with reason. When we have no real reason to believe in something, yet we do anyway, we call it faith as if it's something to be proud of. Faith stops people from asking questions without providing any answers. It is, in fact, ignorance. When someone says that are proud of their faith, they are saying "I am proud to believe despite having no reason to." How many of these people would take the same attitude towards a new drug. What if I gave you a drug that is supposed to make you feel great, and when you asked how it worked, I said "that is not for us to know", would you still take it, and in fact be proud to take it? Why is it okay to give a pass to religion when we don't do so to any other claims?

So how can faith be an opinion? An opinion requires information to be formed. Is ignorance ever an opinion, or is it the lack of one? When you say that you can not fault people for their faith, you are saying that you can not blame people for being satisfied with ignorance.