This Is Why I Hate Salvia

[Tenner]

all the haters haven't broken through to the other side.....


... the enlightened sit back and snicker at such negative posts regarding 1 time ill experiences...



it's a shamanic substance... you get out what you can spiritually put in...


if you trying to get fucked up, salvia isn't for you.


Many days I have spent in meditation, smoking bowl after bowl on the verge of a breakthrough warping my perception around me... not quite getting there...

Other days I have just ripped right through to the other side, and spent what seemed like weeks on the other side. A few times I have come back forgetting who I was in the first place. Each experience was uniquely rewarding. But each experience almost seemed random.



Salvia Divinorum isn't something to tame in 1 bowl.








To the non-experienced, Salvinorin A almost similar to a slot machine. You pull the handle, but you don't always win.

Some do remarkably win on the first pull, however the people that don't GET IT on the first try need to keep putting in quarters until they win something from the machine.



When your on the other side, wave hello and tell them I sent you.

Verde that post was amazing. I`m gonna +Rep you for this one

And going to buy some more Salvia soon

What salvia do you suggest I use, 20x? 40x? 80x?

 

[Sr. Verde]

O yea i almost for got my favorite salvia trip. I took 2 Fat bong rips and held it in till i almost pass out. i was in my back yard in the middle of summer. everything was nature and green. When i stood up from my seat i was surrounded by 4 walls. felt like i was in an art gallery. But instead of feeling trapped i stepped into the paintings just to be trapped into another box surrounded by 4 more new paintings with different views because i moved.this happened every time i stepped through another painting. I have never admired nature as much as i did when i was tripping. the colors and just everything.

Lost in your own mind and completely comfortable

This is how a good salvia trip goes.


Some really in depth stuff. Almost like a fantasy land with infinite possibilities.


as long as were sharing stories:


I remember the first break through I had I woke up in a train... and I looked around, bewildered but not scared. I leaned out the car of this train and saw a desert I never could have never imagined before. It had pink fluffy clouds, dark brown sand.... fantastic hills in the distance.. it was all very surreal, and strangely euphoric.

I then turned around and noticed I was with a familiar face (I later realized this was my friend in the room trip sitting at the time). He was the trains conductor. He had a large hat and monocle. He was standing there with a blank stare, when i tried to rouse his attention and nothing worked - I became frustrated... Failing to get his attention I seemed to start speaking VERY loudly to get his attention (I don't think I would say yelling). My pitch soon became out of my control.

Things started to dissolve away and into something unfamiliar. This rattled me a bit..... I came back to another room that I could not quite see... I came into this strange world speaking gibberish.... incoherently and uncontrollably.... I can not even remotely replicate my speech as it was at that moment even if I TRIED to........ I could not stop myself from speaking and I soon became aware of my inability to INHALE air into my lungs... I was speaking too fast and couldn't stop to breathe. I tried to relax.... as the room came back to normal.... and settled in place.

I realized the train conductor was my friend in the room, and the place I dissolved back into for the last time was the room I started in. It took me a few minutes to realize that this was my life.... my body...... And after about 10 minutes time I had full memories back and after 30 minutes I was perfect.... I was in euphoria for like the next day.. everything was blissful. The wind passing through the trees tickled my soul.


Also, it turns out, according to my friend.... That I took a fat rip of the bong, exhaled, and took another FAT rip... put the bong on the table, stumbled over to the sofa, leaned against it.. exhaled.. and sat there staring into space for about 3 minutes. I appeared to exibit no outward signs of ANYTHING wrong. I never made a peep my whole trip. Intense.


After that I respected the herb.

 

[Sr. Verde]

What salvia do you suggest I use, 20x? 40x? 80x?

go for 20x or 40x... whichever is the better deal.... really no reason for 80

Just pack a real fat bowl if you MUST... get standardized extract if you can... guaranteed salvinorin a content ratio.

 

[Tenner]

go for 20x or 40x... whichever is the better deal.... really no reason for 80

Just pack a real fat bowl if you MUST... get standardized extract if you can... guaranteed salvinorin a content ratio.

Your trip was amazing I think I had 40x last time but never broke through, maybe 4-5 attempts I took.

I will give it another go sometime though, first off I`m gonna sacrifice 20 quid for a bag of long missed weed, first things first hahaha

 

[cannabis420420]

salvia must affect people differently

 

[Sr. Verde]

Your trip was amazing I think I had 40x last time but never broke through, maybe 4-5 attempts I took.

I will give it another go sometime though, first off I`m gonna sacrifice 20 quid for a bag of long missed weed, first things first hahaha

salvia must affect people differently

use a butane torch lighter with a bong...

cash a bowl of salvia in one hit... hold for 10 seconds, pack your next bowl while holding your hit.... then exhale and IMMEDIATELY take the next rip....

this yields the best results for a break through usually.

people dont realize salvinorin a vaporizes at a higher temperature than THC and therefore requires a slightly hotter lighting method to release the goodies

 

[Tenner]

use a butane torch lighter with a bong...

cash a bowl of salvia in one hit... hold for 10 seconds, pack your next bowl while holding your hit.... then exhale and IMMEDIATELY take the next rip....

this yields the best results for a break through usually.

people dont realize salvinorin a vaporizes at a higher temperature than THC and therefore requires a slightly hotter lighting method to release the goodies

Valuable advice taken into account. Thanks Verde

 

[RyanTheRhino]

yea that is a must torch lighter. the active drug has a higher flash point than thc.NOW I FEEL STUPID FOR NOT READING YOUR WHOLE POST

oh and while we are on this topic did you know the more salvia you do the more it fucks you up. its like the opposite of tolerance. and i am serious look it up. i personally feel it is true from my experiences.


oh and be warned that you will feel really really really uncomfortable . no matter what you do you will just feel dirty. just be ready for that it kinda really sucks, but if you can put up with that the visuals are awesome. << i think that why people freak out is because they cant get comfortable.

 

[Tenner]

yea that is a must torch lighter. the active drug has a higher flash point than thc.

oh and while we are on this topic did you know the more salvia you do the more it fucks you up. its like the opposite of tolerance. and i am serious look it up. i personally feel it is true from my experiences.


oh and be warned that you will feel really really really uncomfortable . no matter what you do you will just feel dirty. just be ready for that it kinda really sucks, but if you can put up with that the visuals are awesome. << i think that why people freak out is because they cant get comfortable.

Yeah I heard about that. But you surely could always counteract it by using less and less or something if its too much I guess. I`m nowhere near at that level now though lolz

 

[Sr. Verde]

reverse tolerance for salvinorin a... yeah I've heard of that, but it was at the back of my mind until now

 

[PeacefulKid1992]

Salvia is a mothafucka yall should hear the crazy stories i got in one of my forums haha

 

[Urca]

ha i wanbr to ry it

 

[canuckgrow]

No freakin way I would try that.....Idiot jumped right out a window LOL....Thought it was only PCP that made people jump out a fuckin window. Did you see that? That guy just jumped out a window.

 

[PeacefulKid1992]

^
I know dude lol that was some funny ass shit! same thing happen to me tho, i walked and fell .80x

 

[PeacefulKid1992]

ha i wanbr to ry it

Hey was up with your spelling

 

[Urca]

haha you already kn ow whats up with my spelling. and my twin bro did salvia, and thought he was drowning in a car. i want to try it justy once

 

[MediMary]

Sr. Verde I have done salvia more than once, and everytime it sucks.
Done acid, always a great spiritual trip, same with mushrooms, philiospher stones, peyote..
fuckin salvia its the only thing ever to give me a bad trip, and not just a one time isolated bad trip, I mean every fucking time, to me there is nothing spiritual about salvia.. I mean I could say huffing paint is a spiritual experience..
to each there own I guess

 

[mattman]

Sr. Verde I have done salvia more than once, and everytime it sucks.
Done acid, always a great spiritual trip, same with mushrooms, philiospher stones, peyote..
fuckin salvia its the only thing ever to give me a bad trip, and not just a one time isolated bad trip, I mean every fucking time, to me there is nothing spiritual about salvia.. I mean I could say huffing paint is a spiritual experience..
to each there own I guess

very true my friend, I think you have to be a very unique individual to like the stuff. I had a buddy who couldnt smoke bud due to drug test... and he turned to this stuff for a daily smoke... needless to say the guys in a pysch hospital now... its some sad shit

 

[Sr. Verde]

Sr. Verde I have done salvia more than once, and everytime it sucks.
Done acid, always a great spiritual trip, same with mushrooms, philiospher stones, peyote..
fuckin salvia its the only thing ever to give me a bad trip, and not just a one time isolated bad trip, I mean every fucking time, to me there is nothing spiritual about salvia.. I mean I could say huffing paint is a spiritual experience..
to each there own I guess

I'd blame your source then...


I always got my shit fresh from KT Botanicals... a nice ethnobotanical shop...

i always stayed far away from the smoke shop stuff..


Salvia Divinorum is interesting in that I found that every batch had it's own 'trip'

One batch would send you one place, and one batch would send you to another. The advantage of this is if you smoked grams on one batch you could get very familiar with the ride...




By 'bad trip' do you mean you had a BRAKETHROUGH and didn't like what you found... or did you smoke a bowl with a bic and sit there feeling quite odd for a short amount of time and just not like it?



By the time I got near the end of a 14g bag of 40x KTB salvia (I diverted most to other sources) I was quite used to the warping of perception on the event horizon.....









& btw are we really comparing salvia divinorum smoking to huffing paint in the hallucinogenics section? some ethnobotanical heads might not take that so well!

 

[Da'at]

Well, this is toke-n-talk, so of course it was compared. LoL