My Feelings On Illegal Immigration, Do They Make Me a Hypocrite?

[fdd2blk]

while crops rot and farmers lose money.

it would be a good thing for the inmates.

how are the crops rotting if the inmates are picking them?

i'm smoking honey oil.

and you?

 

[UncleBuck]

this is why i hate the politics section.

everybody thinks they are sooo smart, yet the simplest shit goes right over everyone's head.


"the constitution ITSELF is written in ENGLISH"

i can't believe you missed the POINT.

i won't bother with an insult.

i saw the point you were failing to make.

that the constitution is written in english does not make it our official language.

there would also have to be an article in the constitution for that to be true.

until then, we have NO official language.

 

[fdd2blk]

i saw the point you were failing to make.

that the constitution is written in english does not make it our official language.

there would also have to be an article in the constitution for that to be true.

until then, we have NO official language.

says you.

 

[UncleBuck]

It seems everyone is forgetting the main point in that, Illegal Immigration is ILLEGAL regardless of race, origin, religion, or creed. In the end, it doesn't technically matter how any of us feel, the fact of the matter is that its illegal. Everyone acts as though it's ok to bend the rules to apply to them. Just because there's a question of human right doesn't mean we get to disregard it as a law.

smoking cannabis is illegal.

owning slaves once was legal.

legality is a bad way to determine morality.

 

[UncleBuck]

says you.

says the constitution, actually

 

[fdd2blk]

says the constitution, actually

where?

article and section please.



'there shall be NO official language ...'

 

[UncleBuck]

how are the crops rotting if the inmates are picking them?

i'm smoking honey oil.

and you?

nothing until later tonight. then i have a little wmd waiting for me. i plan to sit on the roof and smoke a little while watching the fireworks.

the farmers still need another few thousand workers. inmates won't cover all of it. but i do like the idea.

 

[UncleBuck]

where?

article and section please.



'there shall be NO official language ...'

the beauty of the constitution.

it leaves us free to legislate an official language if we choose.

but it does not establish one. and we haven't legislated one yet.

so.....

 

[Thundakat85]

smoking cannabis is illegal.

owning slaves once was legal.

legality is a bad way to determine morality.

My first argument, is how is me smoking the same as an illegal immigrant? I'm not hurting anyone anymore than an alcoholic would.
2. morality and legality are two different things, and in most cases two different matters of opinion

 

[fdd2blk]

nothing until later tonight. then i have a little wmd waiting for me. i plan to sit on the roof and smoke a little while watching the fireworks.

the farmers still need another few thousand workers. inmates won't cover all of it. but i do like the idea.

maybe they can force college students to work off their loans.

 

[medicalmaryjane]

maybe they can force college students to work off their loans.

how about using all the unemployed people as labor!!

 

[fdd2blk]

how about using all the unemployed people as labor!!

brilliant!!!!

 

[UncleBuck]

My first argument, is how is me smoking the same as an illegal immigrant? I'm not hurting anyone anymore than an alcoholic would.
2. morality and legality are two different things, and in most cases two different matters of opinion

you said 'everyone bends the rules'. apparently that is true.

how is an illegal immigrant hurting anyone? most of them work hard and pay taxes just like the rest of us. and just like the rest of us, there are some bad apples.

if they were all deported tomorrow it would hurt us. just ask the farmers in georgia.

 

[UncleBuck]

how about using all the unemployed people as labor!!

ya know, i would wager that they probably have enough georgians out of work.

they took our jobs.

happy 4th everyone. my work here is done. time for beer and barbecue.

 

[fdd2blk]

you said 'everyone bends the rules'. apparently that is true.

how is an illegal immigrant hurting anyone? most of them work hard and pay taxes just like the rest of us. and just like the rest of us, there are some bad apples.

if they were all deported tomorrow it would hurt us. just ask the farmers in georgia.

i haven't eaten a peach in years.

 

[Thundakat85]

how is an illegal immigrant hurting anyone? most of them work hard and pay taxes just like the rest of us. .

Are you serious with this comment???? You have to have a social and legal documents to legally work and pay taxes in the US. If they're illegal than how do they have these documents? If its all false paper work than it's null and void anyways and thus breaking the law and avoiding tax payments and penalties for not paying. You don't have to pay if you don't exist. Also, living off the lands resources and not paying for it is making it harder on the actual legal tax payers of this country. You come here and use up our resources without having to pay anything into it, all the while sending all that american money into mexico never to be seen again?

 

[UncleBuck]

Are you serious with this comment???? You have to have a social and legal documents to legally work and pay taxes in the US. If they're illegal than how do they have these documents? If its all false paper work than it's null and void anyways and thus breaking the law and avoiding tax payments and penalties for not paying. You don't have to pay if you don't exist. Also, living off the lands resources and not paying for it is making it harder on the actual legal tax payers of this country. You come here and use up our resources without having to pay anything into it, all the while sending all that american money into mexico never to be seen again?

i've worked for employers that hired illegals. they have false ss numbers and pay into the system, never to see a penny of it.

did you see the report from the state of texas? even texas says they provide an overall boon to the economy, more than they take. plus they inject billions of dollars into the economy as well.

perhaps you have not met too many illegals, but i assure you they exist and most work, that is why they are here.

and what business is it of yours if they send it back to mexico (or perhaps another country as mexicans are only about 60% of the illegals here)? it's their money that they earned and they can do with it what they like.

 

[dirtsurfr]

illegals on the farm I'm OK with.
illegals that come here with the Cartels need to be shot on site.
illegals that are gang bangers and their Welfare trash need to be shot too, heck shot them all.....
Did I already say that??

 

[Thundakat85]

i've worked for employers that hired illegals. they have false ss numbers and pay into the system, never to see a penny of it.

did you see the report from the state of texas? even texas says they provide an overall boon to the economy, more than they take. plus they inject billions of dollars into the economy as well.

perhaps you have not met too many illegals, but i assure you they exist and most work, that is why they are here.

and what business is it of yours if they send it back to mexico (or perhaps another country as mexicans are only about 60% of the illegals here)? it's their money that they earned and they can do with it what they like.

Yes i've heard. I live in the state of texas, I'm right in the middle of it. Don't sit here and try to read me some stats that some beaurocrat made up without even stepping foot into a city.
Then your former company was breaking the laws as bad as illegal immigrants. you're talking about ILLEGAL immigration like its just someones opinion. Its a law, thats all there is to it, you have no other argument. They DO NOT provide an overall boom, try telling that to governor perry, the reason texas is as booming as it is, is because of oil and gas, and we have one of the largest ship channels in the country. Also, taking our money and sending it to mexico never to be seen again, makes our money worth less, because they have to print more to keep up with it, pretty soon the dollar will be worthless because of things like this.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yes i've heard. I live in the state of texas, I'm right in the middle of it. Don't sit here and try to read me some stats that some beaurocrat made up without even stepping foot into a city.

the report was put out by the comptroller of the state of texas. basically, texas' accountant.

and for your knowledge, i have worked in el paso many times before. your state may not be so beautiful when the sun is blaring, but your people are damn nice. damn nice.

Its a law, thats all there is to it, you have no other argument.

stop smoking cannabis then.

some people smoke cannabis and get into car accidents, thus it is not harmless, and illegal to boot.

They DO NOT provide an overall boom, try telling that to governor perry

i would, but he is too busy praying for rain while the state burns and slashing the budget for the people that fight those fires.

and they do provide an overall boon. your own state says so. we are witnessing the service they provide in georgia as we speak.

Also, taking our money and sending it to mexico never to be seen again, makes our money worth less, because they have to print more to keep up with it, pretty soon the dollar will be worthless because of things like this.

so, removing currency from the system makes the remaining currency worth less? novel concept there.

illegal immigrants force the fed to print more money, wow. just wow.

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