QUESTION For Miracle-Gro Organic users...

NorCalTransplant

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Sorry for my ignorance :) I thought maybe he was what you were referring too. He's a happy boy, think hes got some Rot in him too, his tail should have been docked. I might have to register it as a deadly weapon. Sorry to side track.
 

Vindicated

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I'm in So Cal, a bag of FoxFarm runs $18 + tax. Roots Organic cost about the same. Miracle-Gro runs about $8. Kellogg's Patio Plus which is available at Home Depot and Lowes runs even cheaper at $6 a bag, and I prefer it over Miracle-Gro because it has forest compost, kelp, worm castings, and bat guano. Super Soil is another good brand, but I like Kellogg the best. I've grown it side by side against FF and I think Kellogg performed as good or better. I just can't justify using FF or Roots at $18 anymore. It's great soil, just to expensive.
 

GeeTee

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lol i know what you mean bro ive owned quite a few pits in my lifetime and pits are the only dogs i will ever own. you actually have a rare colored pit which is a tri-color which makes them resemble Rotys
 

hyroot

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wall street journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304665904576383832249741032.html


High Hopes at Miracle-Gro in Medical Marijuana Field


By DANA MATTIOLI

Scotts Miracle-Gro Co. has long sold weed killer. Now, it's hoping to help people grow killer weed.

Scott's Miracle-Gro is hoping to cash in on the growing medical marijuana business. WSJ's Dana Mattioli reports. Photo by Justin Sullivan/Getty Images


In an unlikely move for the head of a major company, Scotts Chief Executive Jim Hagedorn said he is exploring targeting medical marijuana as well as other niches to help boost sales at his lawn and garden company.
"I want to target the pot market," Mr. Hagedorn said in an interview. "There's no good reason we haven't."
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Sales at Scotts rose 5% last year to $2.9 billion. But the Marysville, Ohio, company relies on sales at three key retailers—Home Depot Inc., Lowe's Cos. and Wal-Mart Stores Inc.—for nearly two-thirds of its revenue. With consumers still cautious about spending, the retailers aren't building new stores as quickly as they used to, making growth for suppliers like Scotts harder to come by. Against that backdrop, Mr. Hagedorn has pushed his regional sales presidents to look for smaller pockets of growth, such as the marijuana market, that together could produce a noticeable bump in sales.
Sixteen states have legalized medical marijuana, the largest being California and Colorado. The market will reach $1.7 billion in sales this year, according to a report by See Change Strategy LLC, an information data services company.
While the report focuses on revenue from growers and dispensaries, Kris Lotlikar, president of See Change, said the market for companies selling hydroponic equipment and professional services is also thriving.
"We see very good growth for these types of companies as the medical-marijuana business grows," he said.
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Top US markets for medical marijuana, forecast 2011 sales

  • California: $1.3 billion
  • Colorado: $244 million
  • Michigan: $53 million
  • Montana: $44 million
  • Washington: $29 million
Source: See Change Strategy LLC

Marijuana use remains illegal under federal law, but federal raids on medical dispensaries have eased since President Obama took office. And while major public companies haven't openly targeted the market, in recent months medical-marijuana companies have sought money from venture capitalists and signaled future IPOs.
Centennial Seed Co., a Boulder, Colo., medical-cannabis seed seller, is seeking $500,000 through a private offering. General Cannabis Inc., whose stock trades on the Pink Sheets, supports the medical-marijuana market with financial and Internet services.
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The 55-year-old Mr. Hagedorn isn't a typical suit-wearing CEO. A former F-16 fighter pilot, he flies his Cessna to and from meetings in Port Washington, N.Y., where he grew up, and the company's headquarters in Ohio, much to the chagrin of his board. He also peppers his language with swear words and military references, and he showed up at the office on a recent June day in jeans and sneakers.
Mr. Hagedorn took over Miracle-Gro from his father, who co-founded the company. The idea to merge with Scotts dawned on him after he looked at the company's market value in 1995, he said, so he called his father's tax lawyer to vet the idea. "I said, 'Bob, I got this f— crazy idea. Do you think it'd be f— possible to take over Scotts?'" he recalls, sitting in the Port Washington office that his father once occupied.
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Scotts Miracle-Gro CEO Jim Hagedorn discusses how the company is trying to balance eco-friendly and natural products against its traditional lawn care line. Wendy Bounds reports.





Wendy Bounds visits the Scotts Miracle-Gro labs for a look at the newest methods in pest-control.


Mr. Hagedorn is serious about sales growth, no matter how small. On a recent trip to a Farmingdale, N.Y., Home Depot, he saw a customer having a difficult time choosing soil. "C'mon, go help him out," he told Mike Carbonara, Scotts' president for the Northeast. A few minutes later, the customer was walking away with a bag of Miracle-Gro. Over the next half hour, Mr. Carbonara influenced three more sales.
Targeting marijuana isn't the only way Mr. Hagedorn is pursuing growth outside the national chains. Scotts is also looking to sell more through grocery stores.
And the company is recultivating its ties to independent lawn-and-garden-store owners, including offering them exclusive products. Mr. Hagedorn strained those ties with a 2009 speech in which he criticized the owners for not doing enough to promote Scotts products, prompting many owners to walk out.
"I don't give speeches to independents anymore," he said.
To target marijuana growers, Scotts would likely buy niche dirt companies that already exist rather than create its own line of branded products.
Jim Hagedorn



Raids on pot-growing operations have turned up Scotts products. Mr. Hagedorn takes that as a good sign of brand awareness, but he fears that some growers would be reluctant to use a mainstream product.
Rollitup.org, a website geared toward the marijuana-growing community, has several forums that debate Miracle-Gro's effectiveness. A user with the moniker Weedqueen12 wrote: "i think [Miracle-Gro] works well." Another user, dannyboy602, countered that Miracle-Gro causes pot plants to "burn and stress."
In the past, Scotts wouldn't have considered pursuing businesses or product lines that generated less than $10 million a year in revenue. But, Mr. Hagedorn said, "We can't operate our business like that
 

NorCalTransplant

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lol i know what you mean bro ive owned quite a few pits in my lifetime and pits are the only dogs i will ever own. you actually have a rare colored pit which is a tri-color which makes them resemble Rotys
Interesting, I didn't know pits have tails like this. Thought it was the Rot in him.
 

mazand1982

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I'm in So Cal, a bag of FoxFarm runs $18 + tax. Roots Organic cost about the same. Miracle-Gro runs about $8. Kellogg's Patio Plus which is available at Home Depot and Lowes runs even cheaper at $6 a bag, and I prefer it over Miracle-Gro because it has forest compost, kelp, worm castings, and bat guano. Super Soil is another good brand, but I like Kellogg the best. I've grown it side by side against FF and I think Kellogg performed as good or better. I just can't justify using FF or Roots at $18 anymore. It's great soil, just to expensive.
more money more problems,lol
 

GeeTee

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yea vindicated i cant justify that either. im in a non mmj state so i think the local hydro stores tax the fuck outta the soil. i buy my mg organic at 6-7 dollars for the 1.5cu bags.
 

NorCalTransplant

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Top US markets for medical marijuana, forecast 2011 sales

  • California: $1.3 billion
  • Colorado: $244 million
  • Michigan: $53 million
  • Montana: $44 million
  • Washington: $29 million
Source: See Change Strategy LLC

Odd Oregon isn't on the list, its been legal medically here about 10 years now.
 

hyroot

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o im sorry i dint know your the almighty price god. and may i ask where are you from?

cali.. every hydro shop goes by the prices in the hydrofarm catalog and they take 20% off of the listed price. obviously you don't have enough common sense to actually look up prices > if you are really being charged that why don't you order from someone thats cheaper. hydro shops are like car dealerships. you never pay the listed price its a buyers market and if they want your business they'll give you a good price otherwise go somewhere else
 

GeeTee

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Interesting, I didn't know pits have tails like this. Thought it was the Rot in him.
actually bro rots arent born with docked tails. most people that have rots do get them docked really early tho. pits arent born with docked tails either. so your dog is mixed with rotty?
 

hyroot

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Top US markets for medical marijuana, forecast 2011 sales


  • California: $1.3 billion
  • Colorado: $244 million
  • Michigan: $53 million
  • Montana: $44 million
  • Washington: $29 million

Source: See Change Strategy LLC

Odd Oregon isn't on the list, its been legal medically here about 10 years now.

i know cali, oregon and colorado were the first to have it.
 

GeeTee

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cali.. every hydro shop goes by the prices in the hydrofarm catalog and they take 20% off of the listed price. obviously you don't have enough common sense to actually look up prices > if you are really being charged that why don't you order from someone thats cheaper. hydro shops are like car dealerships. you never pay the listed price its a buyers market and if they want your business they'll give you a good price otherwise go somewhere else
and obviously you dont have enough common sense to read. i dont buy at the hydro shops for that main reason i do all my soil shopping at HD or Lowes. and i dont need to look up prices on soil that im never buying
 

hyroot

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and obviously you dont have enough common sense to read. i dont buy at the hydro shops for that main reason i do all my soil shopping at HD or Lowes. and i dont need to look up prices on soil that im never buying

i did read. you just supported my statemet with your idiodic, contridictive redundancy. if you don't go to hydro shops and don't look up prices then why did you say roots cost 40.


stupid people are funny
 

GeeTee

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lol kk w/e you say man, but like i said i dont need to look up prices on shit i dont need im quite happy with what im working with that doesnt cost me an arm and a leg
 

hyroot

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lol kk w/e you say man, but like i said i dont need to look up prices on shit i dont need im quite happy with what im working with that doesnt cost me an arm and a leg

thanks again supporting my statement
 

GeeTee

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hanks again supporting my statement
hanks? and like i said man im not in a mmj state,so i dont have the luxury nor the time to just go into hydro shops like you and nag/haggle/beg till they drop the price.
 

GeeTee

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oh. you meant "thanks" lol alright no problem
edit: hyroot your funny man coming back and editing all your posts. lots of misspelling huh? lol kinda funny comment you made about stupid people
 

doctorwizzy

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i used miracle grow organic for my first grow, outdoors last year and had dank. However, I have strayed away and am experimenting with foxfarms this year
 

hyroot

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oh. you meant "thanks" lol alright no problem
edit: hyroot your funny man coming back and editing all your posts. lots of misspelling huh? lol kinda funny comment you made about stupid people
i need a new keyboard.
 
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