The Choice I Never Made...

beardo

beardo

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guy incognito said:
No they didn't.
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BY MICHAEL SHERIDAN
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Tuesday, April 27, 2010

Noah shepherded them through the flood, two by two and ended up in Turkey.
That's what a group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers is claiming, after having found what it says are pieces of the religious icon's famed boat on Mount Ararat.
"It's not 100% that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9% that this is it," Yeung Wing-cheung, a Hong Kong documentary filmmaker, told AFP.
Wing-Cheung, a member of the 15-member team from Noah's Ark Ministries International, said the structure in which they got the wood had several compartments that were possibly used to store animals.
 
karri0n

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guy incognito said:
I choose to believe in evolution because the mountain of evidence is very convincing. I choose to believe einsteins theory of relativity is because the evidence is very convincing. Choosing to believe in something is not the problem. Choosing to believe in something with no evidence is.
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No you don't. These aren't choices you are making. I can choose to reply to this post or not. I can choose to take a drink of my water or not to.

If it's a choice, then just for a minute - choose to believe in god or choose to believe that the earth is flat. You can't, because you won't actually be convinced. Just like you aren't choosing not to understand what me and Pad are saying, you just don't get it. It's not a choice.
 
karri0n

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beardo said:












BY MICHAEL SHERIDAN
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Tuesday, April 27, 2010

Noah shepherded them through the flood, two by two and ended up in Turkey.
That's what a group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers is claiming, after having found what it says are pieces of the religious icon's famed boat on Mount Ararat.
"It's not 100% that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9% that this is it," Yeung Wing-cheung, a Hong Kong documentary filmmaker, told AFP.
Wing-Cheung, a member of the 15-member team from Noah's Ark Ministries International, said the structure in which they got the wood had several compartments that were possibly used to store animals.
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a. That's not even a picture of the thing - the one they found is buried underground.

b. the entire basis of noahs ark literally happening and carrying 2 of every species is completely ridiculous for a nearly unlimited number of reasons. Please understand that mythology is not to be taken literally if you wish to retain a shred of credibility in further discussion
 
beardo

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karri0n said:
a. That's not even a picture of the thing - the one they found is buried underground.

b. the entire basis of noahs ark literally happening and carrying 2 of every species is completely ridiculous for a nearly unlimited number of reasons. Please understand that mythology is not to be taken literally if you wish to retain a shred of credibility in further discussion
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Heres the real one if you wanted a picture [youtube]LjpeQU7GIZc[/youtube]
And the Ark carried a pair of each Species which spread after the flood and reproduced and evolved into all the species we have today. their would have been a pair of wolves that went on to create all the wolves foxes dogs and dingos
 
guy incognito

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karri0n said:
No you don't. These aren't choices you are making. I can choose to reply to this post or not. I can choose to take a drink of my water or not to.

If it's a choice, then just for a minute - choose to believe in god or choose to believe that the earth is flat. You can't, because you won't actually be convinced. Just like you aren't choosing not to understand what me and Pad are saying, you just don't get it. It's not a choice.
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wtf are you talking about? How could one ever come to a definitive conclusion about the shape of the earth without making a choice? Are you just born with it? The idea of a flat earth was with you since birth?

No, I actively choose to believe in evolution and einsteins theory because it is the best possible option. The choice is pretty much made for me, I see no other option, so I hold those beliefs. I do not choose to believe in fairy tales.
 
guy incognito

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And in the context of this thread I didn't "choose" to be an atheist. Atheist is the default position, I just didn't choose to believe in god. I could theoretically choose to believe in god or any number of things. I personally can't do that because I have a higher standard of proof that none of those things have met. That means of course that I would not be convinced.
 
olylifter420

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some of his theories are going to be discredited, but probably not accepted because people like you in a few upcoming years



guy incognito said:
wtf are you talking about? How could one ever come to a definitive conclusion about the shape of the earth without making a choice? Are you just born with it? The idea of a flat earth was with you since birth?

No, I actively choose to believe in evolution and einsteins theory because it is the best possible option. The choice is pretty much made for me, I see no other option, so I hold those beliefs. I do not choose to believe in fairy tales.
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karri0n

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I'm not sure how else I can explain it. I'll implore you to re-read Pad's original post. You aren't CHOOSING to believe this. Not belieiving them is not an option available to you - no matter how hard you tried to choose not to believe in evolution, you wouldn't be convinced. Sorry if I'm not explaining better.

Could you choose to believe that's bart in your avatar and not homer? If someone thought the dad from simpsons was named bart and the kid was named homer, did they choose to believe that? or are they just confused?

edit:

OK I re-read Pad's post, and saw that you were the first to reply. Your response changed after a different person said the same thing he did, albeit in a more verbose fashion.

So I guess you did choose... you chose to be a troll. Good on you I guess...
 
olylifter420

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So, that made you choose atheist over all else... Right?:hump::hump::hump::hump::hump:


so this higher standard of proof you say you have, gives you the right to bash on others beliefs?

i see how you think... very "incognito":spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::finger::finger::finger::finger::finger:


guy incognito said:
And in the context of this thread I didn't "choose" to be an atheist. Atheist is the default position, I just didn't choose to believe in god. I could theoretically choose to believe in god or any number of things. I personally can't do that because I have a higher standard of proof that none of those things have met. That means of course that I would not be convinced.
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beardo

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karri0n said:
In a period of 4000 years? Biology fail



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Crap like this is further proof of my point. No one would actually choose to believe this. Belief is not a choice.
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You can get some very distinct characteristics in ten generations, why not more so in a few hundred generations?
 
olylifter420

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does anybody know what actual REAL dinosaur looks like?

Or an actual species that has evolved since the "dawn of time?" As in 4.5 billon years ago...
 
beardo

beardo

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olylifter420 said:
does anybody know what actual REAL dinosaur looks like?

Or an actual species that has evolved since the "dawn of time?" As in 4.5 billon years ago...
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alligators and turtles are dinosaurs, we have made extinct ones as clones from fossils like in jurassic park.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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olylifter420 said:
does anybody know what actual REAL dinosaur looks like?

Or an actual species that has evolved since the "dawn of time?" As in 4.5 billon years ago...
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Dinosaurs to birds is fairly well documented in the fossil record.

The first evidence of life dates from 3.65 to 3.85 billion years ago.
 
dannyboy602

dannyboy602

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i know god exists. my conscious choice has nothing to do with his existance. but once in a long while, and i'm usually alone, i can hear him speak. in soft tones and whispers. and his message finds a place in my heart. and then i find it flows through me. it reveals itself when i relate to other human beings.
but, and sadly, it only reachs some. the hurt, the lonely, the poor, the dieing and the children. they seem more able then most to hear his message.
so then i am a conduit. a messenger. i don't spread god. i spread what he is.
 
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