Spider Mites Week 8 Flower!

[T Ray]

http://www.apvma.gov.au/products/review/doc.s/dichlorvos_final_2011.pdf

Sorry, but this link is sending me to a "Page not found- Error 404" Please try again.

 

[dbkick]

I just scanned thru here and saw some words like azatrol and something about 8 weeks in flower in the subject, seems like some bad info so here lemme put my two cents in........first get one of these.....

Then fill that sucker up with pure tap h20 and blast those little fuckers into next week, goddamn I hate these little fuckers.You could even do a little purespray if you wanted then maybe rinse in a day or two , just assuming you can keep it dry enough after the sprayings since humidity is an issue this late.

 

[dbkick]

co2 doesnt kill mites.. even when you pop whole tanks in small rooms. any neem product, (azawhatever) or any oil will leave a bad taste.. I also think that the no pest strips emits cancer causing chemicals that soak in the plants (dont know for sure). try mighty wash, or ice water and tangle foot.. dont use chemicals that far into flower

Enough co2 will kill anything, including your plants and you.

 

[T Ray]

Are you clicking your link on your post? Again I am not able to read a thing about Dichlorvos. Just a link to a error page. Is it only me who can't get his link to get info on Dichlorvos?

 

[doniawon]

http://www.apvma.gov.au/products/review/docs/dichlorvos_final_2011.pdf

 

[doniawon]

I just scanned thru here and saw some words like azatrol and something about 8 weeks in flower in the subject, seems like some bad info so here lemme put my two cents in........first get one of these.....
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Then fill that sucker up with pure tap h20 and blast those little fuckers into next week, goddamn I hate these little fuckers.You could even do a little purespray if you wanted then maybe rinse in a day or two , just assuming you can keep it dry enough after the sprayings since humidity is an issue this late.

i basically say the same thing in the second post.. ice cold water will piss them off. how much is that atomizer?.. hvlps with plastic canisters are 20 bucks at harbor freight.

 

[T Ray]

Sorry it took so long, but that was a whole lot of info and a nice source also. Though I did read about the potential residue I also read this

"Uptake and metabolism by plants
Dichlorvos has been found to dissipate rapidly from treated leaf surfaces, with a half-life of 4.6 to
6.8 hours, presumably due principally to volatilisation and hydrolysis. Enzymatic breakdown may also
occur but a test using plant homogenates showed they did not hasten degradation. The dissipation
rate from treated grain has been found to increase with increasing moisture content and increasing
storage temperature."

"Conclusions
Dichlorvos is likely to dissipate rapidly in most situations where it is exposed to air, soil and water, due
to volatilisation, hydrolysis and microbial degradation. Dichlorvos vapours are not expected to persist
in air due to degradation and loss by various means. Residues in soil and water are expected to break
down to less toxic metabolites due to hydrolysis and degradation by microorganisms. Mineralisation to
CO2, water and salts is expected through microbial activity."

 

[T Ray]

I see it's clear we agree to disagree. I do appreciate the research and effort with that last source. It was a very informative. + Rep for that one.

 

[dbkick]

i basically say the same thing in the second post.. ice cold water will piss them off. how much is that atomizer?.. hvlps with plastic canisters are 20 bucks at harbor freight.

That atomist is worth its weight in gold if you ask me, but to answer it set me back almost 250 US. And plants don't like ice cold water, water straight out of the tap is cold enough.

 

[Trian79]

I just got a batch of these little fuckers for the first time ever and I'm on week 5 of flowering. I'm really pissed about it. Ugh.

 

[GrowersBook.com]

early in bloom or in veg use shit that works like floramite and avid..

NEVER EVER EVER EVER USE AVID!!!!

That bears repeating, NEVER USE AVID!

Reading the instructions on a bottle of avid, it tells you to get suited up in a full body covering jump suit, rubber gloves, and breathing filter. Now are you really going to tell me that it's ok for use on consumable products? Come on people use your grey matter!

Again, do your own research on insecticide, one of the BEST insecticides to use is Neem Oil. Neem Oil is 100% harmless to humans. In India the Neem tree is called "The Village Pharmacy" because they use it for a ton of different things. Neem Oil doesn't kill a bug on contact, instead it's hormones cause confusion in the bugs, and they forget to do the things they need to do to survive. It forgets how to eat, fly, moult, and more, causing the bugs to die of natural causes instead of death by chemicals.

 

[purpz]

Azamax & lady-bugs always do the trick for me.

 

[doniawon]

NEVER EVER EVER EVER USE AVID!!!!

That bears repeating, NEVER USE AVID!

Avid's main ingredient is Malathion which according to the FDA "Has no adverse side effects to humans". However, if you take any interest in your own health, and do your own research, you will find Malathion is a horrible horrible chemical that should never be used on plants that are to be smoked.

According to many sources on the internet.. "Acute exposure to extremely high levels of malathion will cause body-wide symptoms whose intensity will be dependent on the severity of exposure. Possible symptoms include skin and eye irritation, cramps, nausea, diarrhea, excessive sweating, seizures and even death. "

Reading the instructions on a bottle of avid, it tells you to get suited up in a full body covering jump suit, rubber gloves, and breathing filter. Now are you really going to tell me that it's ok for use on consumeable products? Come on people use your grey matter!

Again, do your own research on insecticide, one of the BEST insecticides to use is Neem Oil. Neem Oil is 100% harmless to humans. In India the Neem tree is called "The Village Pharmacy" because they use it for a ton of different things. Neem Oil doesn't kill a bug on contact, instead it's hormones cause confusion in the bugs, and they forget to do the things they need to do to survive. It forgets how to eat, fly, moult, and more, causing the bugs to die of natural causes instead of death by chemicals.

avid is a shitty chemical.. but avid is Abamectin not Malathion

 

[doniawon]

That atomist is worth its weight in gold if you ask me, but to answer it set me back almost 250 US. And plants don't like ice cold water, water straight out of the tap is cold enough.

our rain water here in the mountains is ice cold year round? how would you know that plant dont like cold water.. and at 250 you would have been better off with a spray rig, maybe then you could have slapped a coat of paint on your house also.. or a 14.99 harbor freight hvlp?..

 

[GrowersBook.com]

avid is a shitty chemical.. but avid is Abamectin not Malathion

You're right! I got that confused with "Atrapa" another product that is found at some hydroponics store that contains 95% Malathion.

However, I was still correct about Avid stating that you get suited up in a full body covering jump suit, with rubber gloves, and breathing apparatus. Which to me is more than enough reason not to use Avid.

Edited other post for accuracy.

 

[phyflem]

no pest strip ....can it be effective outside? how would i use it?? thanx in advance

 

[GrowersBook.com]

"Dichlorvos does not appear to accumulate in plants, fish, or animals."

Most people won't buy a car without doing some research before hand, so why would you do that with a chemical pesticide?

All you gotta do is read this post I made: https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/448756-insecticides-what-they-how-they.html

And from that post, the section on Dichlorvos....

Toxicity
The EPA has classified it as toxicity class I - highly toxic, because it may cause cancer and there is only a small margin of safety for other effects. Products containing dichlorvos must bear the Signal Words DANGER - POISON.

Dichlorvos is highly toxic by inhalation, dermal absorption, and ingestion. Because dichlorvos is volatile, inhalation is the most common route of exposure. As with all organophosphates, dichlorvos is readily absorbed through the skin.

Symptoms of acute exposure to organophosphate or cholinesterase-inhibiting compounds may include the following: numbness, tingling sensations, incoordination, headache, dizziness, tremor, nausea, abdominal cramps, sweating, blurred vision, difficulty breathing or respiratory depression, slow heartbeat. Very high doses may result in unconsciousness, incontinence, and convulsions or fatality.

Here is the full toxicity report, which is quite extensive:
http://extoxnet.orst.edu/pips/dichlorv.htm

So you tell me, does that sound like something you want to use in your garden?

If so, just like someone else said, I would pass on your grass.

All you need are organic pesticides and you will be fine. If you have to use anything stronger, you have other problems you need to look at.

 

[RawBudzski]

Once you hang the plants the Mites will abandon the bud and go to the Tip of the Stem.. from their you burn them with a lighter

 

[Phillip J Fry]

here a ton of info on pest strips active ingredient [SIZE=+1]DICHLORVOS
[/SIZE]http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/r?dbs+hsdb:@term+@rn+62-73-7
I sprayed Azatrol and put up a pest strip, room vents outside so I am going all out in hopes to finally be done with these bastards.
I also have 1500 ladybugs in the frig, hope they stay alive in there long enough for me inflict some chemical damage.

 

[Jerseykushface]

get some praying mantis's bro they DO WORK and theyre natural

I was thinking this but how could u prevent them from escaping the grow room