Feds Changing Their Minds!!! July 15th....

[hic]

Well I think you like to grow marijuana streets. I think you have spent wat too much money on growin plants. I think the marketing got to your head and you think it is cool to spend that much. I would not spend that much on my house let alone growing some meds. You have done this to your self for bad financial decisions.

I bet you I can grow as much as you do and spend no more then $16,000. I bet your meds have to pay for all that stupid shit you bought and I bet the people have to pay that amount you are requesting in your hood but that shit is over cause the feds are coming for you.

Walk away from that dumb shit streets and join the people.

 

[guy incognito]

you believe care givers shouldn't be making all this $?! i 100% disagree. how else would you prefer a caregiver to make $? well if you are like me than u know working 40 hours a week on top of maintaining a large garden for my patients is quiet difficult, and i did this for a long time. after spending thousands of dollars ($14000-17000) investing in equipment and knowledge i damn well better see that returned to me 20 fold. all i know is i work for my $, i give my patients their meds(2 oz a month), free, i get rid of what they dont want to other patients for donation. growing GOOD weed costs $.

so your telling me if a person has 5 patients and 12 plants per patient, which would b 60 plants (mind you im not even counting if your growing for yourself, that would be 72 plants) after they givin out 2 oz to each patient after a harvest, they arent supposed to take donations for it, i mean come on dude, wtf are u supposed to do with the left overs after you have supplied your own patients?! be real here. what your saying sounds like you have a trust fund and $ is not a problem for you, well let me tell u that its a problem for almost all of michigan and when people can finally have some income coming in, which im paying taxes on thank you, it really helps. remember dude michigan made this legal and in the law itself it says that medical marihuana transactions is not considered illegal drug sale, or something similar to this. i dont run a cartel, i dont run a mob, im not a gangster im a fucking white boy following the law.. meth maker wages?!

sorry this came off intrusive i just woke up, haven't had my coffee yet and im pissed that this shit is going down the way it is!! the anger derived from this message was not intended to be directed specifically at anyone personally, but me just blowing off some steam! lol time for a latte and smoke

I think a 20 fold ROI is unreasonable.

 

[symbiote420]

first off the war on drugs is a joke especially when i can walk down the block and probably find every drug on the planet, it's all about money, the rich run the country we the ppl was always a dream, to keep the poulation in check. the rich tell the government shit like "you're not going to raise our taxes find the money somewhere else, use the promised pensions and soc. security of the lower classes." MJ is and will always be treated/considered a "poor man's drug", it fux me up to see how the government has it's hand on every aspect of our lives now - our money, kids, food, and lifestyles when did doing something that doesn't harm anyone else become a crime it amazes me to see stars and the rich keep beating these cocaine cases or serving bs sentences cause of their status/money while your whole fu**'n life can be thrown away over a couple grams WOW!!........Beware when the corporations get ready to move in on the game (they're just waiting for social acceptance), then- byebye caregivers!

 

[hic]

bye bye caregivers is right. We got a little while to play the game though, don't we.

 

[streets]

I think a 20 fold ROI is unreasonable.

you dont believe if you spend 16000 you should be able to atleast make 20 times that before having to get new equipment?! unreasonable? trust me it will take some time before hitting 16000. and how is that unreal to spend that much? bulbs go for 250, fixtures and ballasts are 500 each, if your running 10 lights thats already 7500, not including AC, electric bill, veg room lights, co2 controllers and atmospheric controllers, nutrients, high quality genetics... get real man, 16000 aint SHIT to spend on a grow that produces HIGH QUALITY medicine. this is a mans game not a childs

 

[fdd2blk]

i bet it costs manufactures about 7 dollars to make an iphone.

just sayin'.

i just paid 2 dollars for a single avocado.

 

[streets]

Well I think you like to grow marijuana streets. I think you have spent wat too much money on growin plants. I think the marketing got to your head and you think it is cool to spend that much. I would not spend that much on my house let alone growing some meds. You have done this to your self for bad financial decisions.

I bet you I can grow as much as you do and spend no more then $16,000. I bet your meds have to pay for all that stupid shit you bought and I bet the people have to pay that amount you are requesting in your hood but that shit is over cause the feds are coming for you.

Walk away from that dumb shit streets and join the people.

ive seen multiple grows where there are multiple care givers, people do this all over michigan, 100s of them... u think since i have my legal # im going to get busted? i mean ill take precausions but man, there are warehouses in detroit stealing electricity harvesting 600 plants at a time, and u think im getting to big... im a SMALL fish, you are a tadpoll.. donations are 180 an oz, this is not greedy and i can bet my crop its more potent than yours that goes for your 350 an oz..

bad financial decisions paid my start up costs in 5 months, talk shit

 

[streets]

i bet it costs manufactures about 7 dollars to make an iphone.

just sayin'.

agreed, but how much did the machine cost to build that makes those iphones?

 

[fdd2blk]

agreed, but how much did the machine cost to build that makes those iphones?

my point exactly.


this is 50 cents worth of glass, ... http://aqualabtechnologies.com/concentrate-utensils/worked-dishes/alex-k-worked-concentrate-dish-7.html


why is it that when it comes to pot there is a group of people who feel that it should be given away for free by the growers?

could all you growers please send me some FREE pot? thank you.

 

[streets]

my point exactly.


this is 50 cents worth of glass, ... http://aqualabtechnologies.com/concentrate-utensils/worked-dishes/alex-k-worked-concentrate-dish-7.html


why is it that when it comes to pot there is a group of people who feel that it should be given away for free by the growers?

could all you growers please send me some FREE pot? thank you.

well i give to them because i can grow 12 extra plants on top of my 12 plants i can grow for myself... i dont like giving away 10 oz to my patients at one time, but in essence its totally worth it in my eye. Because i love growing, its amazingly therapeutic and calming, and i love to have relief from herbal medicine. its a great hobby as well, but isnt for everyone. i sell low because i only work with my 5 patients mainly, im not trying to get popped

 

[newatit2010]

Why do you think they want you to have a MMJ card, so they know where to go and who to look for before knock knock knock BAM.

But not to worry the frigging republicians are going to give odummy the power of GOD. Every body knows he wants to it legal LMFAO

 

[streets]

Why do you think they want you to have a MMJ card, so they know where to go and who to look for before knock knock knock BAM.

But not to worry the frigging republicians are going to give odummy the power of GOD. Every body knows he wants to it legal LMFAO

technically they didnt want it, but the people (Michigan voters) came through. all im saying is i am very close to someone that work for the MMMP republican party, and he has advised me to not go over my limit and not to have multiple caregivers growing in the same room. they are busting million dollar operations that are legal in the states eyes because they are all caregivers in a coop, but they are growing 1000's of plants, using 100,000s of watts. coops in general and dispensaries are their MAIN targets.

 

[symbiote420]

technically they didnt want it, but the people (Michigan voters) came through. all im saying is i am very close to someone that work for the MMMP republican party, and he has advised me to not go over my limit and not to have multiple caregivers growing in the same room. they are busting million dollar operations that are legal in the states eyes because they are all caregivers in a coop, but they are growing 1000's of plants, using 100,000s of watts. coops in general and dispensaries are their MAIN targets.

that's what i tell my associates that are caregivers don't go over your limits and don't co-op because they(the law) will feel like you you're producing too much and it will end up on the streets in the "wrong" hands, but last time i looked nobody was forcing ppl to go out and find weed to smoke or even buy it for that matter

 

[guy incognito]

you dont believe if you spend 16000 you should be able to atleast make 20 times that before having to get new equipment?! unreasonable? trust me it will take some time before hitting 16000. and how is that unreal to spend that much? bulbs go for 250, fixtures and ballasts are 500 each, if your running 10 lights thats already 7500, not including AC, electric bill, veg room lights, co2 controllers and atmospheric controllers, nutrients, high quality genetics... get real man, 16000 aint SHIT to spend on a grow that produces HIGH QUALITY medicine. this is a mans game not a childs

lights do not cost that much. I paid $260 for a 1000W switchable balast, cool tube, mh bulb, hps bulb, and timer and they have worked like a charm. The cost of everything else is pretty cheap in comparison to how much you get. I think $16,000 would be a monster set up. I can have 36 plants and it would be impossible for me to fully utilize $16,000 while staying in my limits.

However I think a 20 fold return is reasonable in that it is achievable. I think it is easily achievable even at cheap prices. $180/oz sounds in the reasonable range. $16,000 would be a massive ass set up. Twentyfold increase that is a third of a million dollars.

 

[Dubbz0r]

Well I think you like to grow marijuana streets. I think you have spent wat too much money on growin plants. I think the marketing got to your head and you think it is cool to spend that much. I would not spend that much on my house let alone growing some meds. .

You wouldn't spend $16,000 on a house? Not sure where you're from but I couldn't live in a shoebox. $16,000 is not that much if you're growing for 5 patients. I have 1 patient and I spent close to $5000 on equipment alone. I would be happy with a kickback of 3 fold let alone 20. I don't think that's unreasonable either.

I go into these hydro shops by my house and that's when I see just how little I am. There are guys walking out the door dropping big money on a daily basis. If they decide to come after me that's fine too but it would be a huge waste of money. I'm really not worried about it. You're taking one guy out of the game because he's growing 12 plants? Oh boy, you really showed those legal MI caregivers who's boss!!

 

[hic]

Ha ha no i never said ZI would not spend 16,000 on a house. I can get a bulb for a $100. and yes I know there are morons co-oped up in and around all of michigan.

Those that co-op are the ones I hate. Yes I am a tadpole and you are a big bad pike. Your pot may be a touch more potent but for as it costs you to grow it, you can have it. I myself am not like you, and thank God I am not.

Do as you wish it is your world too, Have fun I hope you really impact MI someday with your way of thinking. I know I do not buy your pot.

 

[hic]

streets and people like streets only make money off the desperate. People are smarter then many of you asses take them for. The only reason you exsist is because people do not obviousley have a choice of worthy tenders to tend to then where ever it is your kind live "mainly in cities I see".

People do not have the raw materials to grow good dope themselves wether it be because they do not know about attitude seedbank or live in a appt or have a dick for a land lord or........etc. There are a number of reasons they buy your pot and it is not because you are the best it is because the feel they have no other option but a dispensary or other streets for a caregiver?

Whatever the case many of you make me sick and I hope the feds do throw you in jail even if you have 30 kids. You like to make shit rough for people including yourself so why are you here? Go move to Cali and sling some hood rat bud there. You move to the right part of town with the crips and the bloods you may be welcome with open arms? Go see and let my job be easier.

 

[fdd2blk]

streets and people like streets only make money off the desperate. People are smarter then many of you asses take them for. The only reason you exsist is because people do not obviousley have a choice of worthy tenders to tend to then where ever it is your kind live "mainly in cities I see".

People do not have the raw materials to grow good dope themselves wether it be because they do not know about attitude seedbank or live in a appt or have a dick for a land lord or........etc. There are a number of reasons they buy your pot and it is not because you are the best it is because the feel they have no other option but a dispensary or other streets for a caregiver?

Whatever the case many of you make me sick and I hope the feds do throw you in jail even if you have 30 kids. You like to make shit rough for people including yourself so why are you here? Go move to Cali and sling some hood rat bud there. You move to the right part of town with the crips and the bloods you may be welcome with open arms? Go see and let my job be easier.

why you gotta bring california into this.

 

[streets]

streets and people like streets only make money off the desperate. People are smarter then many of you asses take them for. The only reason you exsist is because people do not obviousley have a choice of worthy tenders to tend to then where ever it is your kind live "mainly in cities I see".

People do not have the raw materials to grow good dope themselves wether it be because they do not know about attitude seedbank or live in a appt or have a dick for a land lord or........etc. There are a number of reasons they buy your pot and it is not because you are the best it is because the feel they have no other option but a dispensary or other streets for a caregiver?

Whatever the case many of you make me sick and I hope the feds do throw you in jail even if you have 30 kids. You like to make shit rough for people including yourself so why are you here? Go move to Cali and sling some hood rat bud there. You move to the right part of town with the crips and the bloods you may be welcome with open arms? Go see and let my job be easier.

damn that was rough... you hope i go to jail... cold blooded dude. you dont even know me, and for the most part im glad. usually i like other growers because they are down to earth and friendly, but you my friend are very immature.

and for the record, i am very close to detroit, which is full of AMAZING medicine, so finding other vendors isnt a problem, its all about quality and bang for the buck. i honestly dont really have a reason to defend myself to you, but just thought you should know.

 

[hic]

Because MI does not want them. Out there in Cali you guys got the ocean to take care of trouble all we got out here is the pigs. Takes a bit for the pigs to digest. The ocean they get swept away.

I did not know where else to send em? Mexico?