16000+ watts medigrow: og kush+ 13 x 1kw hps + 3 x t5 badboys + grotek = *HAPPY JOY*

hey it looks like you spent a lot of time and effort on this set up! it looks pretty impressive! but if i were you i would put some reflectors on those MH and HPS, dont want to be losing 50% of your light!

also those ladies looked pretty big on june 20th, have you started flowering them yet?
 
hells yea mello, back with another epic grow for the masses. i cant wait to see how this one turns out. ill be taking notes :)
 
ilovechunkygirls said:
what a waste doing it in soil with that kinda setup
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LMFAO you know nothing.

MBlaze was a pathmaker on this site, and he only grew in soil. he grew with a set-up EXACTLY like this, and his average harvest was 2.5 LBS per plant INDOORS.

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/208597-gypsys-first-tree-attempt.html in this thread MBlaze coatched someone and that person was able to harvest over 1.5 LBS per plant indoors. her plants here on hydro and they were NOTHING compaired to MBlazes plants.

i love the fact that this grow is in soil, with someone who truly knows air-water ratio within the soil. the plants ARE going to be amazing.
 
SiiGht said:
hey it looks like you spent a lot of time and effort on this set up! it looks pretty impressive! but if i were you i would put some reflectors on those MH and HPS, dont want to be losing 50% of your light!

also those ladies looked pretty big on june 20th, have you started flowering them yet?
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thanks for stopping in, actually we find that you lose MORE light with reflectors, hence the vertical donkeydicking. because of the way HID's emit light outwards from the core, with horizontal + reflectors, you lose the light on top, which you then have to reflect down, right? except any reflector is going to absorb a percentage of that goodness. vert bare bulbs give the plants the best penetration, IMO; it just means you have to rethink your whole cooling/venting system. the only place you "lose" 50% of your light is for the girls on the outside who are only getting light from one side but that would happen with reflectors anyway. solution? move them around so nobody spends ALL of their time on the outside.

although there's some sort of new reflective film for your walls that a couple of people are drooling about (one of those couple people being mr. mello, lol).

i'm hoping it'll become more obvious what we're going for once the girls are spread out to where they're supposed to be. (they're clustered closer together now since we use less lights to veg under.)

the girls all got their top 6-10 inches topped on the first, and they're probably getting topped once more, so we're not flipping them for another 2 weeks or so. (yes, they're going to be monstrous but that's the idea ;))
 
i've seen rooms many-fold larger than this shrivel up and **DIE** overnight in dwc because of *ONE* mechanical upfuck. literally sometime in 6 hrs (time between scheduled check-ins).
to me, THAT's wasteful. both of time and of resources.

the only way that'll happen with soilless or soil is through *spectacular* human failure (which we're hoping to avoid, lol)

not knocking hydro in any way, i know for a fact that i've grown pound-for-pound more dwc than dirt. but i like dirt; it's what we're most comfortable with.

thank you for your insightful input anyway. ;)
 
What do you expect to get from this grow per 1000w? Try as I may the best I could get was 700 to 800g per light in Organic with co2. I started the RDWC thing 5 months ago to replace the Organic grow, we will see what happens, it is lots of money to do it right. I use my iPhone and the net to check on my setups and I also use a security system for heat, water and pump failure, power out, it calls my phone at home and cell every 15 min till I stop it.
 
hoping for pound-a-light or better! (but who doesn't eh?)

i guess the grow monitoring software makes it way easier eh?

welcome to the dungeon xeno!
 
Looking gorgeous. I am very interested in the T5 Blue Spectrum flowering test if you do decide to go through with it. Its been a while since anyone has compared a true top end T5 yield to a true top end HPS yield.
 
Everyone thinks this is so cool because you are growing with T5 Bad Boys... I personally thought it was cool because you are doing a legit grow with GroTek. I mean, having kilowatts upon kilowatts hanging from the ceiling is cool too... But if everyone knew how good of results they could get with GroTek I think they would put everyone out of business, it's such affordable stuff! And they have a $25 starter kit, it's hard to beat.
 
Jozikins said:
Everyone thinks this is so cool because you are growing with T5 Bad Boys... I personally thought it was cool because you are doing a legit grow with GroTek. I mean, having kilowatts upon kilowatts hanging from the ceiling is cool too... But if everyone knew how good of results they could get with GroTek I think they would put everyone out of business, it's such affordable stuff! And they have a $25 starter kit, it's hard to beat.
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you could say that.... but then again i have a full line-up of AN products. paid over $600 for the full line, 1 L bottles. Grotek isn't better beacuse its cheaper, basically the same thing except grotek doesn't have MANY of the unlisted ingredients that are in alot of the more expensive nutes.

it doesn't matter what you use, as long as you know how to use it.
 
Corbat420 said:
you could say that.... but then again i have a full line-up of AN products. paid over $600 for the full line, 1 L bottles. Grotek isn't better beacuse its cheaper, basically the same thing except grotek doesn't have MANY of the unlisted ingredients that are in alot of the more expensive nutes.

it doesn't matter what you use, as long as you know how to use it.
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I couldn't agree with you any more, I have a $700 complete H&G line-up, and I have pulled the same numbers and quality with a $35 TechnaFlora kit. I haven't had the pleasure of using the complete GroTek line up all the way through, and have no room to bring it on board at the moment. But the only reason I have this H&G is because someone did a good sales job on me. Once I use it all up I'm going to start doing my own organics, it is by far the cheapest thing you can do. Although GroTek even gives organics a run for it's money unless you have direct suppliers. If I ever go back to synthetic nutrients it will be either TechnaFlora or GroTek.

Fucking A', I just remembered I have a complete BioBizz line up around here already. It was a gift (minus two components that I bought), but I still need to use it up! Purchasing pre made organics seems silly to me, half the reason we go organic is because we are cheap, the other half is because we are pot-smoking hippies.
 
Corbat420 said:
you could say that.... but then again i have a full line-up of AN products. paid over $600 for the full line, 1 L bottles. Grotek isn't better beacuse its cheaper, basically the same thing except grotek doesn't have MANY of the unlisted ingredients that are in alot of the more expensive nutes.

it doesn't matter what you use, as long as you know how to use it.
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you're right, grotek isn't better because it's cheaper, it's better because it's *better ;). (well, certainly more idiot-proof, imo lol)
not to be contentious or knock a.n or anything, but name me ONE thing that a.n has going on that grotek doesn't or have an alternate source of, pleez.
i've done my homework, there's a reason we've used their product for as long as we have, although tbh of all the local nute companies i never looked much into a.n's product, but that's only because we have a few friends who've had contract disputes with them and whatnot; you know how that whole solidarity thingy works. *sigh* :roll:
and you're also right on it really not mattering as long as you try to go at it with a basic botanical understanding.

jozi, what's all in the $25 starter kit? (haven't bought a liquid in anything less than a gallon in a while, so we don't pay a lot of attention to the starter stuff lol)
 
not to be contentious or knock a.n or anything, but name me ONE thing that a.n has going on that grotek doesn't or have an alternate source of, pleez.
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its not about what they SAY is in it. its about whats ACTUALY in it. once you understand labeling in NA you might understand a little bit better...... http://www.tfi.org/factsandstats/regulations.cfm

State regulation is concerned with consumer protection, labeling, the protection of human health and the environment, and the proper handling and application of fertilizers. Fertilizers are regulated at the state level because soil conditions vary dramatically from state to state across the country.
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Labeling ONLY pertains to things what could damage human health or the environment. if it doesn't damage health or the environment in the state the chemical is in they dont have to disclose whats in the fertilizers.

plain and simple. resources cost money, if your fertilizer costs $25 there obviously aren't many resources used in producing it. thus there arn't many resources for the plant.

plants need 13 minerals to survive, and 16 to strive. the differance is 3 minerals. $25 gets you the basics, $100 gets you everything.


Edit: EXAMPLE:

AN Carbo Load. heres the label.
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compaired to GroTek Carbo Max, which has no online label. the closest thing you can find is this PDF. http://www.grotek.net/en/products/guide/msds/msds_carbomax.pdf
Dextrose Powder 100%
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^ from the PDF.

GroTek= Dextrose powder...... AN = glucose, Xylose, aribinose and maltose..... Mollasis in Compost tea is BETTER than grotek's carbo max.......... thats what i mean by you dont know what your buying.
 
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