Niko Bellick
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According to canna's nutrient calculator for my 1.5 gallon res I need to use 0.81 ml of part A and part B. what do you suggest?
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BluBerry
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Honestly. I suggest getting a PPM Meter. Without one you are playing chemist.
It can be done but it's only $20-$30 for meter.
That is going to put you exactly where you need to be and you will have alot more of an understanding of what's going on.
Even after adding these mixes if my PPM is not where I want it I adjust the nutes/water.
During the first couple weeks of veg I add approx. 2-4 mL of Sensi A & B per Litre of water in the rez.
My rez this grow is an 18 L sport cooler. 15 L of water in there so 30-40 mL of A and 30-40 mL of B.
Then follow the directions on the back of the Voo Doo bottle. 2 mL per L during wks 1-2 of veg & flower.
During weeks 2-4 of flower I add 2 mL per L of Big Bud liquid to the rez. During wks 6-8 I add 2 mL per L of Overdrive.
That's a small rez you're working with there. But 1.5 gallons is equivalent to 5.6 Litres.
So with the Sensi A & B, I would add 8-10 mL of A, 8-10 mL of B, & 8-10 mL of Voo Doo (VD only during weeks 1&2 of veg & flower).
But knowing the exact PPM will be alot more beneficial to you to know.
Enough with my rambling.. Lol!
It can be done but it's only $20-$30 for meter.
That is going to put you exactly where you need to be and you will have alot more of an understanding of what's going on.
Even after adding these mixes if my PPM is not where I want it I adjust the nutes/water.
During the first couple weeks of veg I add approx. 2-4 mL of Sensi A & B per Litre of water in the rez.
My rez this grow is an 18 L sport cooler. 15 L of water in there so 30-40 mL of A and 30-40 mL of B.
Then follow the directions on the back of the Voo Doo bottle. 2 mL per L during wks 1-2 of veg & flower.
During weeks 2-4 of flower I add 2 mL per L of Big Bud liquid to the rez. During wks 6-8 I add 2 mL per L of Overdrive.
That's a small rez you're working with there. But 1.5 gallons is equivalent to 5.6 Litres.
So with the Sensi A & B, I would add 8-10 mL of A, 8-10 mL of B, & 8-10 mL of Voo Doo (VD only during weeks 1&2 of veg & flower).
But knowing the exact PPM will be alot more beneficial to you to know.
Enough with my rambling.. Lol!
Niko Bellick
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Good sir tell me where you can buy a ppm that cheap that functions decently and I will order one post haste lol.
Okay, I'll double check around but since you actually use advanced nutes. my question is with the voodoo juice you said weeks one and two in veg and flower only. if voodoo juice is a rooting nutrient I can use it the entire veg period correct? I plan to veg alil longer than two weeks is why I ask lol.
Niko Bellick
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7/26/11 Update: Will transplant into Waterfarm unit Thursday. Picked up some water weld and set the new air stone to the bottom of the res. lots of air but feel like there could be more. Might try to afix one too either side on the walls of the res, maybe. Also found an old Cooler that the unit sits in nicely so I will use that to help keep temps down. Haven't decided if its worth the trouble yet but I may use the veg bulbs in the t5 and break out the 2700k cfl bulbs for a mixed spectrum. Only during veg though. All flowering bulbs during 12/12.
Niko Bellick
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PPM meter bought. For once all the proper equipment in hand.
BluBerry
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Go to Ebay and search for PPM Meter. I just did it and the first 3 listings were under $20 and that included the shipping.
But this is the one that I have http://cgi.ebay.com/HM-Digital-TDS-EZ-Meter-Tester-Water-ppm-Purity-Filter-/280349439863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item414620f777
I say use Voo Doo only during weeks 1 & 2 because that is what the directions on the bottle say to do.
It is a rooting agent that is used to promote healthy root growth.
Once you establish healthy vigorous roots then you shouldn't need the Voo Doo juice.
It is too expensive to continue using it when it is not needed.
I try to stretch my nutes not waste them.
Edit: I posted this before I seen you bought a PPM Meter. Congratz!
U won't be disappointed and you will have a much better understanding of what's going on in there.
Niko Bellick
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Okay, just checking. cuz the canna always has you use rhizotonic all the way through. but Im all for making my nutes stretch and that makes sense if the roots are established and healthy then why keep using it.
Yup bought one for 13.95 with shipping on sale from 38.00 good deal I think. Sensi Bloom came in today. Should have the voodoo by friday and the ppm meter by tuesday at latest.
I didn't get much info on the ebay page but in general do TDS meters need to be calibrated like you would with a ph meter ? thanks for all the help bro.
Niko Bellick
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Yup, definitely going to be the most accurate grow I've done just for having the tds meter. couple that with Advanced nutrients lineup and this will be a great grow to watch for sure.
Niko Bellick
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heading to buy some calibration solution for it today. And trust me I miss my 1000 watter. Next big purchase should be a 600 watt HPS with cool tube for when the new grow room is ready to go.
Niko Bellick
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Cheesus, Day 1 of Veg. Please note after this pic the ridiculous foil reflector on the back wall was taken down to be replaced shortly by mylar.
iRevolution
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Good idea, i can't wait to see her grow. Got to love giving life!
Niko Bellick
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Yup, excited too see what the ppm is tomorrow. I'm already back to sitting in the grow room zoned out staring at her.
Niko Bellick
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7/29/11 Update: Day two in the waterfarm. I noticed a slight yellow emerging from the center of the new growth. Probably just a little nitrogen def. Tomorrow both the voodoo juice and PPM meter should be waiting for me. Fine tune the nutes tomorrow and all should be well.
Can actually notice that the plant is bending alil towards the CFL I use for flowering. Interesting to see is all.
Can actually notice that the plant is bending alil towards the CFL I use for flowering. Interesting to see is all.
Niko Bellick
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UPDATE 7/30/11: Water temp: 65F
PH:5.7
PPM:600
TEMP: 77 Degrees (F)
RH: 25% (I know needs to be higher.
As you guessed my TDS meter arrived today and appears to be in fine working order. Still waiting on the VooDoo Juice. Should Arrive Monday, Suppose to be getting a freebie because of the long wait. Hope its a small bottle of one of the nutrients I was already going to purchase. Anyways, made sort of a DIY Co2 boost bucket to help her along.
On a side note my water comes out of the tap at 155 ppm. I don't see any reason I should keep buying R.O water by the gallon as that seems like an acceptable level (correct me if I'm wrong. But is there any kind of formula I am suppose to be using to factor in the tap water PPM when mixing up nutes ? I'll look around obviously but if anybody knows I'd appreciate the knowledge drop.
PH:5.7
PPM:600
TEMP: 77 Degrees (F)
RH: 25% (I know needs to be higher.
As you guessed my TDS meter arrived today and appears to be in fine working order. Still waiting on the VooDoo Juice. Should Arrive Monday, Suppose to be getting a freebie because of the long wait. Hope its a small bottle of one of the nutrients I was already going to purchase. Anyways, made sort of a DIY Co2 boost bucket to help her along.
On a side note my water comes out of the tap at 155 ppm. I don't see any reason I should keep buying R.O water by the gallon as that seems like an acceptable level (correct me if I'm wrong. But is there any kind of formula I am suppose to be using to factor in the tap water PPM when mixing up nutes ? I'll look around obviously but if anybody knows I'd appreciate the knowledge drop.
Niko Bellick
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Seedlings, Early Sprouts 100 to 250
Early Vegging 300 to 400
Full Vegetation 450 to 700
Early Blooming 750 to 950
Full Mature Blooms 1000 to 1600
got this off another site. Now I feel like 600 is probably high for a plant so young. hmmmmm
Early Vegging 300 to 400
Full Vegetation 450 to 700
Early Blooming 750 to 950
Full Mature Blooms 1000 to 1600
got this off another site. Now I feel like 600 is probably high for a plant so young. hmmmmm
BluBerry
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It is a weed and can survive on just water for a while, so no need to rush the nutes.
600 PPM for the stage you are in is a little high. Shoot for more around 250-300 PPM.
And increase approx 100 PPM each week. I am about 3-4 weeks into flower and just now at 1400 PPM.
My water is 55 PPM from the faucet but I don't calculate that. That is just me though.
I just add the amount of nutes that I need to add to get my PPM to the level I want it at. Unless your water is like 400 PPM.
It is all about reading your plants. They will tell you what you are needing to know. Just gotta study and observe without overthinking.
I have been keeping my PPMs lower this grow and focused more on keeping my rez temps low (between 63-6
and pH stable. My lady loves it!!
600 PPM for the stage you are in is a little high. Shoot for more around 250-300 PPM.
And increase approx 100 PPM each week. I am about 3-4 weeks into flower and just now at 1400 PPM.
My water is 55 PPM from the faucet but I don't calculate that. That is just me though.
I just add the amount of nutes that I need to add to get my PPM to the level I want it at. Unless your water is like 400 PPM.
It is all about reading your plants. They will tell you what you are needing to know. Just gotta study and observe without overthinking.
I have been keeping my PPMs lower this grow and focused more on keeping my rez temps low (between 63-6
and pH stable. My lady loves it!!
Niko Bellick
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Yeah I Knocked it down to 300 ppm and flushed the rapid rooter with straight water just because I noticed the very first set of leaves had a bit of burn. hasn't spread and I'm not worried.It is a weed and can survive on just water for a while, so no need to rush the nutes.
600 PPM for the stage you are in is a little high. Shoot for more around 250-300 PPM.
And increase approx 100 PPM each week. I am about 3-4 weeks into flower and just now at 1400 PPM.
My water is 55 PPM from the faucet but I don't calculate that. That is just me though.
I just add the amount of nutes that I need to add to get my PPM to the level I want it at. Unless your water is like 400 PPM.
It is all about reading your plants. They will tell you what you are needing to know. Just gotta study and observe without overthinking.
I have been keeping my PPMs lower this grow and focused more on keeping my rez temps low (between 63-6
My faucet comes out at 155 PPM which I guess isn't bad. I get gallon jugs of distilled that is 8 ppm. I know its not necessary but screw it. I know shes fine without the voodoo juice for abit I'm just anxious too try out something from Advanced Nutrients lol. The waterfarm sitting inside of a cooler is keeping the res in the mid to high sixties. once the roots get down into it I'm sure they'll love it.
Niko Bellick
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8/1/11 Update: VooDoo Juice came today. mixing up some new nutes to include it. For the record I'd like to say that I HATE hanna meters. I'm on my third ph meter from them and the damn things Can't stay calibrated for shit. Tri Meter will be my next investment.
PPM: 275
PH: 5.5
RH: 25%
Temp: res=65 Closet=77
Pics Tonight.
PPM: 275
PH: 5.5
RH: 25%
Temp: res=65 Closet=77
Pics Tonight.